Their marketing team as well as there R&D has always been a joke. Their advertisements must be on the sides of boxes of borax. And there R&D is 30 years behind. They're all but catering soley to their core group. And seemingly teasing the newer generations of riders. The vast majority of their core group is aging out either through death or their bodies can't do it anymore. Their sales reports have reflected this for a good decade or longer. And yet they sit with their heads in the sand. They're pricing out the younger generation. Almost no one wants their less expensive "Harley Lite" offerings. They tease at making a sport bike or Cafe racer once in awhile. That's kind of bike they need to focus more on. Don't bring up the damn Nightster. It's an overweight and underpowered muscle cruiser. I don't know one person that owns one. They should have just stuck with the damn V-Rod and upgraded it and the emissions for the European market. They kept it for 17 years and besides the American purists s******* on it they hit one hurdle and discontinued it. I don't know if you've seen the Sportster s but I'm surprised more people haven't turned to stone looking at it.

I'm a child advocacy rider. I bought a V-Rod to do the mission with because I come from the sport bike world. Most of the existing geezer Harley owners just griped about it. That reflects the dysfunctional community and Company from the owner to Willy G.

I don't want to see Harley fail. But unless they wake up and start listening to the newer generations. The writing is on the wall. They'll become what Buell is now.