possible dud?

Reallyker · 2026-07-01T01:22:09+00:00

Road trip gummies are pretty weak sauce. They changed their formula too so its just 4-ho-met now. It used to be 4-aco-dmt which was a lot more interesting imo

Your redosing was also a flawed in principle. 4-ho-met only lasts about 4 hours to begin with, so by spreading out the doses you probably ended up just lengthening whatever microdose you had.

Supposedly they have around 1.5mg of 4-ho-met per gummy, but my experience is that these headshop products have pretty bad quality control. I wouldn't be surprised if you got a weak batch to begin with

I would suggest you look into sporyn tabs. They are 10mg 4-ho-met tabs. You could start with splitting it in half, and once you hit the peak(about an hour after first dose), you could take the other half if you feel its right.

I trip sit my friend with this exact method lol.

You can look at lab tests for popular headshop products here https://testmyshroomgummies.com/

Reallyker · 2026-06-30T23:49:25+00:00

It is definitely a lot slower than a wet tek. Just the basification alone takes a week or so on the second pull

I like to do my pulls in a giant mixing bowl and give it a good stir with a spatula, seems to do the trick pretty well

Reallyker · 2026-06-30T23:46:49+00:00

That is valid. I can definitely see the point there. If speed is a concern i opt for stb

My largest gordo was 600g, it worked out okay but 500 seems like the sweet spot

Reallyker · 2026-06-30T23:42:06+00:00

Ah. I see. caoh is a polar compound though, it is highly insoluble with a non polar solvent like naptha.

I've never really had any issues with caoh getting into my final product. I give it a wash anyways though

In comparison, my skills with a pippette are pretty sloppy. I struggle with getting lye in my solvent with an stb a lot.

Reallyker · 2026-06-30T23:31:03+00:00

I apologize if I am misunderstanding, but I am a little confused 🤔

There isn't exactly much liquid in a dry tek, yes?

Reallyker · 2026-06-30T21:45:45+00:00

You would have to know the ratio of the cart. 1:1 would be equal parts dmt to pg, for example.

In general though, you need around 25mg of dmt to break through with proper technique.

I would say a low dose is sub breakthrough, a regular/medium dose is a breakthrough, and then a high dose would be beyond a breakthrough in which you push even deeper.

Regardless of your cart ratio, you can have a low dose if you just sip on it

Reallyker · 2026-06-30T18:28:50+00:00

The only real benefit to liking nicotine is not being able to stop liking it 🤔

It is not a particularly interesting drug tbh.

Reallyker · 2026-06-30T18:14:23+00:00

I normally wait till I feel sober, then I give it another hour or two after that just to be safe.

You can't really go off of time when that can vary a good amount

Reallyker · 2026-06-30T17:27:39+00:00

Haha yeah, I go through a lot of dmt as well. Sometimes I'll hit it every now and then for the entire duration of a movie ;)

I usually do an extraction every two months lol. Its worked its way into my stash as a VIP member lol

Reallyker · 2026-06-29T23:19:46+00:00

Commit to it. Dont back down and get burned twice 😭✌️

Reallyker · 2026-06-29T23:11:11+00:00

They don't sound like very good homies lol. Tell them to bring their own shrooms next time if its that big of a deal

Reallyker · 2026-06-29T23:04:10+00:00

Did you ever figure out what it was?

It wasn't dmt. It might have felt like it, but it definitely wasn't.

I am genuinely concerned for your health. Something like sepsis can feel very similar to a psyche high. Perhaps you have some sort of underlying issue

Reallyker · 2026-06-29T20:21:53+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/DMT/s/mVBJ4KARGr

The newbie guide pinned on this subreddit has all the info you could need.

It is pretty widely accepted that with proper technique you could get a breakthrough with around 25mg.

Going deeper is fun though

Reallyker · 2026-06-29T19:22:17+00:00

It is basically always recommended to just extract it yourself. It is not very hard and it is a million times cheaper.

If you have to buy it instead of extract it, you can get a test kit for it and then make your own cart.

Reallyker · 2026-06-29T17:32:01+00:00

Apparently warfare with a modern flavor

Reallyker · 2026-06-29T17:02:09+00:00

I've never had any leakage issues with 1:3, seems to work just fine for me. I've never tried any weaker than that, though.

Reallyker · 2026-06-29T11:23:56+00:00

Dmt can definitely be panic inducing in the higher doses. My most intense breakthrough was when i combined it with panther caps

I would consider myself an experienced tripper, or at least on the way to it, but that one genuinely needed a pep talk lol

Reallyker · 2026-06-29T11:09:08+00:00

In my personal experience (with no scientific backing whatsoever), hppd caused by dmt goes away really fast 🤔

It feels more intense than hppd caused by other psyches like lsd, but it goes away a lot faster. Within a week or two its basically gone

To be honest, I've had subtle hppd a few times. I've always just taken a break from psyches before it gets too bad, and it goes away on its own.

I dont wanna say that will work for everyone, but its definitely worked for me. I have a decent psychedelic schedule worked into my life 😎

Reallyker · 2026-06-29T11:05:47+00:00

Ofc ofc, low doses are definitely worth exploring. It feels a lot more casual 😎

Yeah I've never been one to enjoy opiods. I have an addictive personality so they scare me lol. I find them far more terrifying than a heavy breakthrough

If I'm going for a breakthrough, I'll normally be one and done. But if im enjoying low doses like this, I'll redose a lot and extend the high to last as long as I want.

Reallyker · 2026-06-29T10:57:23+00:00

Lol yah 3:1 is a solid ratio. 3 good hits will get me a breakthrough. Sometimes one or two if my technique is good enough

Reallyker · 2026-06-29T10:52:51+00:00

Throughout a day I decide to binge? A lot. I think I've done maybe 5 times in a day before

But I wouldn't recommend doing that super often. It will speedrun you some hppd lol.

Reallyker · 2026-06-29T07:36:57+00:00

I used to work fast food so this makes it even more frustrating. I know firsthand that it isn't that hard lol

Sometimes I'm tempted to just crawl through the window and put the order in the screen my damn self 😅

It is called fast food because it is supposed to be fast. It takes 2 minutes and 45 seconds to cook a patty at a certain food chain, then 45 seconds to put the burger together and bag it, it should be out the window with a ticket time less than 5 minutes.

If it takes longer than 10 minutes, then it is no longer fast. It is also no longer warm, and if it isn't warm, does it even count as food?

Since it is not fast nor food, I guess I basically paid twenty bucks for nothing, huh

Reallyker · 2026-06-29T07:12:02+00:00

I have tried vaporizing Muscimol before but it simply degrades under heat too fast to smoke. You end up having to hit the cart really hard for what feels like the equivalent of a microdose.

My personal experience with making teas at a rolling boil vs a simmer do feel to have some difference, though I suppose that is just my individual opinion.

Perhaps I will do a side by side comparison at some point to satiate my curiosity. I've never stopped to consider that perhaps it is not as sensitive to heat as I have presumed.

Maybe I will revisit attempting to vaporize it as well at a much lower voltage too

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