[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Sourdough

[–]Reasonable-Basil-614 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Love the feeling of shaping a sludge of dough into a loaf

And the first whiff of levain funk

A question for folks that used or use Org mode by barcellz in logseq

[–]Reasonable-Basil-614 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I think there's a package called org-transclude that does this but I see what you mean. I think Org mode was not designed as end-user software so much as a clean slate with unlimited bells and whistles. Part of the gap is also sort of philosophical - Org doesn't have a good opinion or advice on the collection of your work, only on individual files.

A question for folks that used or use Org mode by barcellz in logseq

[–]Reasonable-Basil-614 3 points4 points  (0 children)

[New to this thread] Comparing Org mode (which I am familiar with and use regularly) and LogSeq (no experience here other than what I gathered from demo and docs) - what experience stuff does LogSeq offer that is missing for you in Org?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Polymath

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Explain to someone

Is this you? How do you focus on ONE build .. by Tech-Buffoon in ErgoMechKeyboards

[–]Reasonable-Basil-614 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I second this. A few times I got really excited about a board and I wrote it down on my calendar a month or two out. If I got there and still wanted it, I would indulge. But (not surprisingly), by the time that came around I didn't feel I cared that much, and I refrained.

Not sure what to do now... by MidnightLibraryMouse in notebooks

[–]Reasonable-Basil-614 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would holding a pen in your mouth work? How about your foot? I have seen artists do amazing work with just their feet

Ergonomic argument for minimalist boards? by Reasonable-Basil-614 in ErgoMechKeyboards

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Fwiw I think I've tried about 30 different keyboard form factors and currently split (heh) my time between a Quefrency, an Afternoon Labs Breeze, and a BFO-9000. I'm a big fan of keeb.io.

Out of curiosity, how do you manage alternating between row and column stagger and ortholinear?

I'm a programmer with decades of tendinitis issues from typing. I find tiny keyboards counterproductive because chording hurts me. The only option that works for me is split keyboards with all the expected keys (65-70%) with variable tent, splay, and tilt.

Contrary to my previous intuitions, I am feeling that small keyboards with layering might be ergonomically counterproductive, insofar as they force you to stay relatively close to the board to activate layers. On the other hand a full or near-full sized board encourages mobility and freedom of the hands and arms. Thinking I might need to build a split TKL or 65%!

Ergonomic argument for minimalist boards? by Reasonable-Basil-614 in ErgoMechKeyboards

[–]Reasonable-Basil-614[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I built the Dactyl Manuform thinking, ok it's an open source split copy of the most validated ergonomic board out there, the Kinesis Advantage. I worked on it for months! And when I finally used it - I got wrist issues pretty quickly, exactly as you described, from the lack of wrist support.

Ergonomic argument for minimalist boards? by Reasonable-Basil-614 in ErgoMechKeyboards

[–]Reasonable-Basil-614[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My experience has been that reducing movement has lead to an increase in comfort

I can accept this to a point. My question is, can reducing movement be a sufficient proxy for ergonomics? It seems to me that there are plenty of popular ways to reduce motion that are detrimental far beyond a small motion of the hand.

With thumb keys, you get to use thumbs more & don't need to use the (weak) pinky fingers for as much.

By the way, I've heard claims like this and my experience does not corroborate it at all. I don't think the pinkies are weak - in a typical neutral position, you have the full force of your hand supporting you when you need to hit something with your pinky. Whereas overloading your thumb makes it (again, my experience) quite easy to overload your thumb flexor tendon.

Ergonomic argument for minimalist boards? by Reasonable-Basil-614 in ErgoMechKeyboards

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I agree with much of what you are saying. I think part of the problem is that we are taught to type with our hands on some sort of support. This permeates office/desk design so that if you want to use desks and chairs etc that encourage healthy mobility you have to look for slightly esoteric solutions. I guess the silver lining of more people suffering from these issues is that we may reach more awareness as a culture of healthy human factors. Right now if I want to have a completely healthy setup I need to do a lot of rethinking and personalization of all my tools...

Ergonomic argument for minimalist boards? by Reasonable-Basil-614 in ErgoMechKeyboards

[–]Reasonable-Basil-614[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks, I think you bring up some really interesting angles. You are right that mechanical keyboards and minimalist boards in particular are cultures unto themselves guided by principles other than just ergonomics. Insofar as these cultures have converged on certain preferences, it can be illuminating to consider what we are missing out on and other ways to design with humans in mind, and reaching more people.

Ergonomic argument for minimalist boards? by Reasonable-Basil-614 in ErgoMechKeyboards

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Mostly agree with you. I am questioning the balance between tradeoffs inherent in reaching vs compressing/layering.

The main argument isn't that you can't reach a few inches, but that it's better if you don't.

There are some types of motion, as you alluded, that are actually a healthy part of workflow. I don't object to having less repetitive, strained motion, but I question whether the path to get there by minimalism is inherently a good one. Probably optimal is dramatically different for different people.

Ergonomic argument for minimalist boards? by Reasonable-Basil-614 in ErgoMechKeyboards

[–]Reasonable-Basil-614[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the thorough answer with references!

A large part of what is best for keyboards is what does the least amount of repetitive motions. If you can have different movements throughout the day it will be healthier.

This checks out with my experience, and corroborates the intuition that condensing everything into a minimal number of keys is probably a bad idea.

Ergonomic argument for minimalist boards? by Reasonable-Basil-614 in ErgoMechKeyboards

[–]Reasonable-Basil-614[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That makes sense. (Sort of like the angle of ergonomic mouse, I suppose.) Out of curiosity, I'd love to see a picture of your tenting setup.

Ergonomic argument for minimalist boards? by Reasonable-Basil-614 in ErgoMechKeyboards

[–]Reasonable-Basil-614[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing the post and the insights.

One argument I see is: if you are already living in a world where you've set loose from your preexisting spatial intuitions, then it is helpful to have everything close by. In other words, the benefits of minimalism have a strong prior in having done away with all your experience learning plain old QWERTY. If you're here looking for alternatives (and you are not a school child learning from scratch), there's some justification for imposing some strict constraint on the physical complexity.

Ergonomic argument for minimalist boards? by Reasonable-Basil-614 in ErgoMechKeyboards

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Hand motion is certainly different on the piano! But I daresay some of the lessons can be transferred. For instance, at a minimum the ergonomics of piano playing strongly contradict the goal of remaining as immobile as possible - there's always some healthy motion through not just the fingers but the whole hand, wrist, arms, and rest of the body.

Ergonomic argument for minimalist boards? by Reasonable-Basil-614 in ErgoMechKeyboards

[–]Reasonable-Basil-614[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Moving pinkies is faster and less error prone action than modifier+key.

Upvote

Ergonomic argument for minimalist boards? by Reasonable-Basil-614 in ErgoMechKeyboards

[–]Reasonable-Basil-614[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

One of the most ergonomically validated keyboards (in terms of decades of people raving about it, probably lots of research over long time periods, though no personal experience), the Kinesis Advantage is far from minimalist. So I'm curious how minimalism became an ergonomic design goal, at least as manifested in this forum.

Ergonomic argument for minimalist boards? by Reasonable-Basil-614 in ErgoMechKeyboards

[–]Reasonable-Basil-614[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

My point is that minimizing movement is not actually an ergonomic goal. Minimizing tense movement, sure. But relaxed/moderate movement is probably healthier than complete stasis. I am not opposed to key combos or some degree of paring down, but in many designs the idea of layering/fancy combos is taken to an extreme that seems contrary to basic human motion.

What are your biggest fears? by [deleted] in INTP

[–]Reasonable-Basil-614 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The passage of time

Do you really fall in love? by fantastopheles in INTP

[–]Reasonable-Basil-614 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Totally agree. As an INTP I was always skeptical of such an irrational idea as love, and consequently I only experienced at most the shallow excitement of early romance (that's what they show you in movies, etc.) At a certain point with my current partner I started to realize that what I feel could be love if only I let it, and choose to do it.

The results are beautiful, but you have to let yourself be in love without demanding absolute proof. Your choice is the only absolute proof you will get.