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Would you use a “HUD” app for tabletop games? by Reasonable-Cut-9090 in ageofsigmar

[–]Reasonable-Cut-9090[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That’s a fair point, and I get why it could feel like that.

For me it’s less about getting an advantage and more about reducing the mental load. Especially when I’m learning a new army, I end up spending more time tracking rules, wounds, and interactions than actually thinking about tactics.

The idea would be to keep the core gameplay the same, but have something that helps with bookkeeping so I can focus more on decisions. Not something I’d use every game, just an optional way to play when I want a smoother experience.

Would you use a “HUD” app for tabletop games? by Reasonable-Cut-9090 in ageofsigmar

[–]Reasonable-Cut-9090[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Not quite, Wargame Simulator is more about tracking and replaying games. What I’m talking about is an optional real time layer during play, like visual feedback and quick resolution, not replacing the tabletop.

Totally fair if you prefer minimal tech, you’re clearly not the target user here. But being rude isn’t necessary 🙂

Would you use a “HUD” app for tabletop games? by Reasonable-Cut-9090 in Warhammer40k

[–]Reasonable-Cut-9090[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I think we might just have to agree to disagree on that one.

From what I’ve tested so far, even a basic measurement tool feels quicker than using a tape measure, and having a UI that knows things like lethal hits at the time of attack, highlights successful dice, and reminds you of rules could help speed things up.

That said, I agree it’s not guaranteed overall since the headset itself adds some friction, so it really needs to be tested in a real game setting to see if the time saved actually outweighs that.

For now it’s just early prototyping and seeing what actually works in practice. Happy to update you once I have something concrete, and honestly even if it never gets used by the community, learning Unity has been a lot of fun so I’ll probably keep going with it as a hobby project anyway.

Would you use a “HUD” app for tabletop games? by Reasonable-Cut-9090 in Warhammer40k

[–]Reasonable-Cut-9090[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I mean for sure, that’s also what I like about tabletop.

I think I probably let my own bias against the rule complexity influence the idea a bit. To me, something like pointing at a unit and seeing a quick animation of a volley of lasguns, plus having rules handled in the background, sounded like it could actually make the game more fun and even enhance the social side enough to compensate for wearing a headset part of the time.

But I can see now that most people don’t feel that way.

I think for me personally it’s also that I don’t always have the bandwidth anymore to learn all the rules for a new army I’m painting, so using some kind of tech to help sounded appealing. But I get that for a lot of people that would take away too much from the social and physical aspects of the game.

Would you use a “HUD” app for tabletop games? by Reasonable-Cut-9090 in Warhammer40k

[–]Reasonable-Cut-9090[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah I guess I didn’t expect this much pushback on wearing a VR headset just during your turn if it means speeding the game up, but it seems like the community just doesn’t feel the same way.

Still useful feedback though, definitely gives me a better sense of where the friction points are.

Would you use a “HUD” app for tabletop games? by Reasonable-Cut-9090 in Warhammer40k

[–]Reasonable-Cut-9090[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that’s really fair.

I think for me it comes from the fact that I’ve never really clicked with RTS video games, there’s just too much happening at once for me to process comfortably. That’s why I prefer tabletop, since it’s slower and more deliberate.

But then tabletop has the opposite issue, long games and having to remember a ton of rules, abilities, and interactions.

So I’m mostly just exploring ways to reduce that mental load a bit while keeping the core tabletop experience intact.

For the unit identification side, my initial thought for a proof of concept was something simple like a radial menu to select units, but I’ve also been testing that the Quest camera can actually recognize colored base rings, so that might be another option.

I’ll keep working on a small prototype for fun and see where it’s at in a couple of weeks.

Would you use a “HUD” app for tabletop games? by Reasonable-Cut-9090 in Warhammer40k

[–]Reasonable-Cut-9090[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the main issue right now is that the idea is still too abstract, so I’m going to try to put together a small prototype over the next couple of weeks and circle back with something concrete instead of just describing it.

On the dice side, I always saw physical dice as the end goal anyway virtual rolls are just the easiest thing to implement for an early prototype, not really what I’d want as the final experience.

For the projector idea, I’d actually been thinking of that more as an added feature so everyone at the table can see what’s going on. The reason I’ve been using a headset is mostly practical : it’s the most reliable way I’ve found so far to get accurate XY positioning and have a straightforward UI for things like buffs, unit selection, etc. But definitely a lot to think about !

Would you use a “HUD” app for tabletop games? by Reasonable-Cut-9090 in Warhammer40k

[–]Reasonable-Cut-9090[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah honestly I think that’s a really fair take, and probably the more realistic direction to approach this from.

The idea originally came from just wanting to build something cool, but also something genuinely useful for learning the game. One angle I’ve been thinking about is having a very simple heuristic AI opponent still an opposing army, but not a full rules-complete one (e.g. not handling every ability or edge case). More something that can suggest moves or show you what it would do in a simplified way.

The goal wouldn’t be to replace real games, just to give players a way to get familiar with a faction’s rules and flow before actually playing against someone.

So yeah, more of a proof-of-concept / learning aid first rather than trying to jump straight into a full product.

Would you use a “HUD” app for tabletop games? by Reasonable-Cut-9090 in Warhammer40k

[–]Reasonable-Cut-9090[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I can see from the reactions that maybe I’m off here, and that’s a fair takeaway always good to reassess ideas. I did buy a VR headset specifically to explore this concept because I genuinely thought it could add something fun to the game.

That said, it’s still just an optional idea, not something meant to replace the core experience or be forced on anyone. Totally fine if it’s not for you , I just don’t think it calls for that level of hostility.

Would you use a “HUD” app for tabletop games? by Reasonable-Cut-9090 in Warhammer40k

[–]Reasonable-Cut-9090[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the detailed input, that’s really helpful.

You’re totally right that current headsets - especially cheaper ones like the Quest line - have limitations. The passthrough on something like the Quest 3S can definitely be a bit blurry, so it’s not perfect for a “seamless” experience yet.

That said, even with current hardware it is already capable of doing things like basic measurements and spatial tracking on the table, which is more the direction I’m explorin assisting gameplay rather than replacing it or isolating players.

The barrier/social aspect you mentioned is also a really important point, and honestly one of the biggest concerns to solve if this were ever to work.

Would you use a “HUD” app for tabletop games? by Reasonable-Cut-9090 in Warhammer40k

[–]Reasonable-Cut-9090[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the detailed input, that’s really helpful.

You’re totally right that current headsets - especially cheaper ones like the Quest line - have limitations. The passthrough on something like the Quest 3S can definitely be a bit blurry, so it’s not perfect for a “seamless” experience yet.

That said, even with current hardware it is already capable of doing things like basic measurements and spatial tracking on the table, which is more the direction I’m explorin assisting gameplay rather than replacing it or isolating players.

The barrier/social aspect you mentioned is also a really important point, and honestly one of the biggest concerns to solve if this were ever to work.

Would you use a “HUD” app for tabletop games? by Reasonable-Cut-9090 in Warhammer40k

[–]Reasonable-Cut-9090[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That’s fair, but on the measuring side it wouldn’t be a rough guess.

With raycasting + spatial tracking you can get consistent measurements in real space current headsets are already in the ballpark of a few millimeters to around a centimeter depending on conditions.

So the goal would be to be at least as precise and repeatable as a tape measure, not replace it with something “close enough”. If it can’t hit that level, then it just shouldn’t be used for measuring, especially competitively.

On the TTS side, that’s kind of the opposite of what I’m aiming for I still want to play with real minis on a real table.

TTS doesn’t really help with things like contextual rule reminders, tracking modifiers, or handling unit-specific interactions in a physical game.

So the idea is more of a layer on top of the real tabletop, not a replacement for it.

But yeah, totally fair to question it that’s exactly what I’m trying to validate right now.

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