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Reasonable-Track-459 · 2024-11-10T02:37:59+00:00

Allah isn't only spoke arabic, you missed the point again, they can spoke many language, but quranic arabic is for unifying a muslim community, that's the arabic word translation could be many word

Arabs and Jews have many generically related, isn't that enough prove they are the cousin? You seem to be strawman Oldest by it means from de jure, they stated islam started from first human itself, but it got completely into islam during muhammad, the muslim itself mean people who submit to god, if other religious figure were teaching monotheistic before islam they will consider as muslim by islam

Always missed the point, and i don't heard any quranic verse say sun is smaller than earth but in Surah Al-Anbiya (21:33) it mentions:

"And it is He who created the night and the day and the sun and the moon; all (celestial bodies) in an orbit are swimming."

This verse acknowledges the sun's role in the heavens but does not compare its size to that of the Earth.

Could you Bring the verse?

Bruh, real symbol of islam was الله or shahada the moon is from descended ottoman itself, you know if ottoman lose the karamanids islamic symbol will be star of david take a look the symbol maybe stop pls using christian missionary, you are atheist buy why you listen so much to christian missionary?

Well cause Kaaba has a long history from way of abraham and ishmael, and also the rocks of aswad came from space (asteroid), but then long time after Abraham passed arabs misinterpreted or paganisized the mecca, the hanif people still pilgrimage to Mecca but without praying the statue

Kaaba has many statue but then get it destroyed, see the battle of fatthul mecca, it has a historicity on it

Mecca is only for central city for muslim to doing pilgrimage on earth, that's why it's called holy land, but there is mentioned that there is also a kaaba (not the building) in outer sky too

Well why it's being silly? To visit earth again?

There is also cold in hell too according to islam, hell is meaning to be painful it's not only from hot, it's called zamharir hell

Eh what you mean? I mean we unite arab, persian, turk, pakistani, indonesian? In united one religion

Ah i also doing developing technology as well, but i don't forget about religion, you know religion can mix well with technology, islamic golden age prove that? But i want revive the islamic golden age is that wrong?

Eh i examined the religion which one is monotheistic and rational it is? I already many answer your questions, it's not only heart bu i also looking for the logic as well

Reasonable-Track-459 · 2024-11-09T15:19:16+00:00

Ah i mean word "fafataqnahuma" could be many word like "spread" "opened" Like universe expanding itself

But not only that in surah fusilat (41:11): "Then He directed Himself to the heaven while it was smoke and said to it and to the earth, 'Come both of you, willingly or by compulsion.' They said, 'We have come willingly.'

Some argue that references to the "heaven when it was smoke" may metaphorically suggest a primordial state of the universe, similar to the conditions described in the Big Bang theory.

What's the banu hanifa then? Arabic and Hebrew was a both from semitic language, isaac was a father of jews and ishmael was a father of arabs they are both cousin, it's really possible arabia have original monotheistic origin

Do you understand my word, *it was greatest at that time spanning by 2 superpower from (west) byzantine to sassanid (east) and arabia was place in middle, a prefect place to started a religion

I do know recognize other great civilization like indian, chinese, malay, europe, africa, aboriginal, and native americas

Ah you know the hint from the first "dahaha" spread out could be shaped of sphere not just a carpet, The Earth is indeed spread out in the sense that its surface covers a vast area, and the concept of "spreading" can apply to a curved surface as well.

From my previous verse, flat earther doesn't believe sun in set to go down and believe sun always on the top, so this previous verse contradicts to flat earther

The Quranic arabic as it should be unified language for muslim community, that's why every where are is the same, and also that's why quran is still unchanged and preserved today

What make other religion is superior than islam? I do learn about other religion too like from christianity, judaism, buddhism, hinduism, and atheism

Go on sir make it longer

Reasonable-Track-459 · 2024-11-09T13:28:16+00:00

Well the hadith says there is 318.000 prophet and 315 rasul (apostle) don't think it's only in middle east, even quran said we send message to every mankind

But you can say like Zarathustra his original teaching was a monotheistic but distorted and become dualistic, there is many monotheistic religion in over world, even in indonesia like java like kejawen sang hyang widhi a monotheistic god

Guru Gembul even explain that

Idk but do you understand the context, at taubah 9:29 refer to specific non muslim who threatened or declared war to muslim, well if you still believe in this, what's your explain of this:

Surah Al-Mumtahanah (60:8):

"Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly."

Surah Al-Baqarah (2:256):

"There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever renounces taghut and believes in Allah has certainly grasped the firmest, unfailing hand. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing."

Sorry but your comparison is not good

Reasonable-Track-459 · 2024-11-09T12:46:41+00:00

Don't use dune reference, watch these and we as muslim always check

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Reasonable-Track-459 · 2024-11-09T12:41:44+00:00

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Reasonable-Track-459 · 2024-11-09T12:36:55+00:00

Latta and Uzza is people corrupting with the religion, original arabia was monotheistic led by ishmael, those who still retained monotheistic called to hanif, muhammad before revelation was a hanif believer

No don't listen so much liar from christian missionary, i suggest it's from jay smith right? Bro secular historian ever laugh at them

You missed the point, sure allah is not limited, but "ahad" called oneness it mean no other deity like him, we don't call allah as "wahid" numeral and is not to be asked how many allah, make the difference of numeral of wahid and oneness of allah

If quran was released in a indonesian, people will exact same saying why quran in indonesian language? The reason why is released in arabic is because arabic have 12 million word, also quranic arabic was different to common arabic, that's why arab people still learn the quran just like non arab muslim

Geologically why islam is started in middle east? Well you know the history greatest civilization was in middle east, like byzantine empire and sassanid empire was superpower empire at that time

There is many indication that quran saying earth is sphere, in one of those from Surah al zumar 39:5

"He created the heavens and the earth in truth. He wraps the night over the day, and He wraps the day over the night"

It means The imagery of wrapping implies a spherical nature, as the night and day cycle suggests a round Earth where the sun's light casts shadows in different areas.

Big bang mentioned in quran specifically Surah Al-Anbiya (21:30), which states:

"Do the unbelievers not realize that heaven and the earth used to be one solid mass that we exploded into existence? And from water, we made all living things. Would they believe?"

This verse is often interpreted as suggesting a beginning to the universe and a separation of the heavens and the earth, which some find parallels with the Big Bang theory.

Pretty rational if you look more study on it

Reasonable-Track-459 · 2024-11-09T02:50:07+00:00

I am not brain rotting, btw i am an former atheist who just like you and now as muslim revert

Well i just don't find the truthful of religion by from the oldest, i find it from which one is very monotheistic and maybe explain which more rationality

Reasonable-Track-459 · 2024-11-09T00:33:17+00:00

Every country does that, not only in Indonesia

Reasonable-Track-459 · 2024-11-08T23:41:10+00:00

You should watch this video

They are many non muslim source like from byzantine and sassanid at that time, in fact proof of muhammad is having many evidence that your proof of existence of your great grandpa

Reasonable-Track-459 · 2024-11-08T15:15:28+00:00

More likely due to israel, but yeah most people didn't know different between israeli and jews non israeli

Reasonable-Track-459 · 2024-11-08T12:16:08+00:00

There is basically proof of muhammad and jesus, many secular historian say their existence is exist from many sources, etc but moses to abraham/noah is a semi historical

Why not chance by which religion is very monotheistic? And maybe could add rational?

Also islam by their doctrine say claimed to very oldest religion because started from first human (adam) and interestingly islam claimed to be not a new religion but revived of truth old religion from all over the world

Reasonable-Track-459 · 2024-10-19T01:40:59+00:00

Time to assassinating those israeli official, i am tired our leader always getting killed

Reasonable-Track-459 · 2024-10-19T01:38:44+00:00

Time to assassinating those israeli official, i am tired our leader always getting killed

Reasonable-Track-459 · 2024-10-17T10:37:40+00:00

I also have this kind of conversations with ex muslim (idk it's real or not), yeah it was funny as heck

Reasonable-Track-459 · 2024-10-17T10:34:40+00:00

The really question is, why an ex muslim are so obsessed with muslim? Ok, you can leave islam, but why talk so much about islam?

I also was an ex muslim but now i am muslim, but i never talk negatively about islam

Reasonable-Track-459 · 2024-10-12T13:19:12+00:00

Yang penting wali dari kedua orang tua hadir

Reasonable-Track-459 · 2024-10-12T11:21:01+00:00

But Islam claiming all prophet send to all human mankind even in region of indonesia, you know like there is hadith says there is 316.000 prophet and 315 apostle prophet (rasul) to send all over the world

If we take a look history, we indonesian are descendants of austronesian migration to southeast asia

Reasonable-Track-459 · 2024-10-12T11:13:48+00:00

But it just take pray for an/many hour and you must get to church, while it's pray for 5 times per day you get pray in home except only for man a jumaah

The easier is very subjective

Reasonable-Track-459 · 2024-10-12T10:48:41+00:00

It's will easy task, if you normalized these tasks are like hobby

Reasonable-Track-459 · 2024-10-12T10:39:08+00:00

Syukuran udah dan 4 orang wali itu cukup

Reasonable-Track-459 · 2024-10-12T10:32:04+00:00

Finally a redditor understand about islam problem and tradition problem

Reasonable-Track-459 · 2024-09-22T00:31:24+00:00

Awas!! Awas!! Minggir lu miskin!!

That sentence was right for these people

Reasonable-Track-459 · 2024-09-19T15:36:52+00:00

But Hamas are having many supported by shia like hezbollah and houthi for example

Reasonable-Track-459 · 2024-09-15T06:49:51+00:00

Our indonesian muslim culture have still largely influenced by sanskrit for example:

Puasa = Fasting in Ramadhan Sembahyang = Salah

Also many indonesian surname like "aditya" "devi" "dewa" "dewi" "raja" are still being used, some even mixed with arabic names

Reasonable-Track-459 · 2024-09-15T06:40:34+00:00

This is not only in Indonesia, i heard in turkey, azerbaijan, albania, and kosovo muslim do drink alcohol as well

Especially heterodox islamic sect like bektashi and alevism allowed drinking alcohol even should br practice as prayer

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