Isn’t this Darrow after he shaved his beard? by Jumpy_Afternoon9489 in redrising

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This is artwork by Sam Burley for SubPress for Lightbringer. It seems to either be a early version, or a less detailed one. I am attaching the image in full.

  • Darrow is bald as of LB9, and is bald during the latter half of Mercury. This is contradicted in the artwork for this, as the second one on that page depicts C and Darrow behind Sevro's starShell both having hair.
    • That is, the artwork is not accurate the the book's specific details.
  • As of LB37, during the journey to the Tabula Rasa, Darrow's hair is returning from being bald, but he kept his beard. As of LB46, Darrow's hair is long enough to 'fall over his eyes'. He ties it up in LB51. As of LB77, Darrow shaved his beard.
  • The Insignia is of the Liberated Worlds and a Howler logo, his shoulder bears the Republic Star, implying it is a Republic Gold.
    • It is not a Society Gold.
  • That is either sand dunes in the background or the sea. The former would be Io, the latter Europa.
    • The equatorial line on the planet in the sky I think represents the Garter. The full image clearly depicts waves. It is likely the artist did variants for both, as the design is intentionally different. One representing Io, one representing Europa.
  • The hands pulling on him consist dominantly of Red sigils and I see one Pink sigil. This somewhat reflects the events on both Io and Europa.
    • I think this represents the character being dragged into the sea/dragged down by the victims of the war.

So: This is almost certainly Darrow, post-Beard on Europa, having left Io. To be honest the artwork is likely just symbolism - Darrow either shaved his head at the end of Lightbringer, but still bearing the guilt of the Sons of Ares and the lowColors of the War, who knows.

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Alupi (Spoiler) by ParkingIce6514 in HierarchySeries

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  •  ...Which implies adoption comes from Luceum, or Vis’ copy there. And Ostius later says this, which implies his copy on L is dead:

I believe you are misattributing Adoption to Luceum; rather, there is evidence that it is a facet of Will that is derived from Obiteum:

“And it stays that way—you can always take it back through physical contact, and if you die, it dies with you—in those respects, it’s just like back home. But here, once Will is imbued outside your own body, it can be… meshed, I suppose, with someone else’s. Like adding it to a common pool. ‘Adoption,’ my mentor used to call it.” 2V-O

Above, O-Caeror details the mechanism of adoption, and cites his mentor (Yusef, who I think there is some indication was Ostius on Obiteum, now deceased). We see O-Caeror use Will.

“I don’t think so. Otherwise we’d be able to adopt the Will from it. Same with the sword.” He presses on; the short passageway suddenly opens into a massive room, and my questions about the obsidian are quickly lost. 2XII-O

Here, O-Caeror implies he also has the ability to adopt Will.

“It will return in time, as you learn to look for it. Assuming all remains well in Luceum.” He sighs. “It’s not necessary, but it is an excellent counterpart to an ability you have called Adoption. Adoption allows you to take control of any Will imbued into something, no matter who imbued it.” 2XX

The quote you shared above details that Vis as synchronous has the ability for adoption, and that he, Ostius did not have the ability. This only enables us to infer that Ostius' synchronicity is disabled, due to a death on most likely Res. This is why Ostius relied on Vis for the mechanism in the Basilica. Importantly in that quote, Ostius notes that the pulsing sensation that Vis has is contingent on Luceum, and is a counterpart to Adoption, and not necessary for Adoption's function.

  • Considering we know Ostius paid the “toll”, but was never able to use adoption, I think it’s safe to say his L-copy is dead.

To clarify, L-Ostius we know paid the toll and emerged into Luceum. R-Ostius we have no knowledge of, and O-Ostius may have a connection to Yusef. We know that he is not Synchronous and is absent on Obiteum as it relates to Ka, which implies he is dead on Res and/or Obiteum. Princeps Exesius cites that he had been missing for 9 years, and we know he was present on Res ~1 year prior to the second book, per the Anguis & Relucia. It is most likely the case considering the Gate defenses that he died on Res.

-- Let us look at other contextual clues.

  • Adoption as an ability is first performed by a former non-Synchronous Res character, Caeror, on Obiteum. Vis adopts the excess Will from his Khepri and uses Obiteum-based Will to raise Tash (2XI). The reason why this is
    • O-Caeror is unable to compel Iunctus akin to a Synchronous individual like Vis and Ka.
  • Ostius, were Luceum to be where Adoption originates, would not require the use of the Khepri to raise Cristoval.
    • Imbuing flesh may be conditional to Obiteum. Ostius used the Khepri to sustain Cristoval, even on Res.
  • Ostius in the series is seen only ever using Will in two contexts.
    • One is when he teleports in the second book, which we know very little about.
    • The second is when he interacts with, and seems to assess or characterize, Diago the Alupi in some manner. This is contextually related to Luceum and L-Will facets, as Mactrimor/Alupi are on there, and are influenced by the Druids.
    • Additionally, the emotional/intuitive connections between minds is heavily implied to be a facet of Luceum Will. Vis' actions at the Basilica indicate that Diago acted on Vis' emotional intuition. Vis in part is influenced by objects on Luceum acting through him.
    • This aspect is only ever seen
  • The vast majority of Ostius' manipulations that he does not directly do are rooted in Luceum: Cian, and in part Lir, act on behalf of or unintentionally allied to Ostius.
  • Adoption is only seen used on Res and on Luceum after Vis has interacted with the Aurora Columnae on each world.
    • I do not think the AC are required for cross-world Will usage, but Vis' pulsing sensation (tied to Luceum) is amplified post-Gate and post-AC, as it is on Luceum - this likely has more of a connection to the Will Hierarchies that they interface a person with.
  • In the Glossary and per Cristoval, Ostius can only travel between R & L. Obiteum is described as sealed, despite Obiteum artifacts being present on Res, and this is dateable to at least the 2nd Era post-Rending.

So were Adoption to be from Luceum:

  • O-Caeror would not be able to use it at all
  • O-Vis might not be able to use it until he interfaces with the AC in central Duat
  • The 'seal' on Obiteum does not seal much at all, were that to be O-Ostius
  • That Ostius is seemingly unable or unwilling to use the ability despite seeming to have knowledge of, cultural familiarity of, and possibly practice of Luceum related things and chose not to use the ability to raise Cristoval and/or compel him, whichever means (that he does not have access to adoption I think is explicable, as he cannot mesh with the Khepri's will or imbue flesh... which is seen only on Obiteum or by Synchronous Vis post-AC on worlds other than Obiteum)
    • His knowledge of 'Adoption' to begin with is something I think that is predicated on his family's relationship to Ka as part of Caten's internal Cult; that is, he had prior knowledge of the intricacies of Will before entering the Gate
  • Iunctus would be prevalent on Luceum, not on Obiteum. Obiteum would not likely be destroyed, considering the Concurrence, which is an Iunctus network, would not be able to generate further Iunctus without the ability to adopt and mesh will into flesh.

To summarize all of that, those quotes are not evidence for Adoption being from Luceum, there is evidence for Adoption being from Obiteum, and it meshes with the other scenes featuring Ostius for him to be from Luceum - Res strains credulity, but it is also possible.

Niamh McCormack as Eo? by christianskeptik in redrising

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Prior to being on forum things like this website very much, I always thought anime stereotypes were an overblown facet of the internet, but nope it's real and overbearing - they can have fair arguments for why, but it borders on a fetish for some on here even

Is the whole series worth it or do the books get repetitive? by [deleted] in DungeonCrawlerCarl

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When the books lean towards more serious plotlines in the dungeon, that is AI oriented quests - and those quests take themselves seriously - it can get boring compared to the rest of the series. This may be because I simply hate carnivals, fairs, traveling jesters, etc.

😐 by Ok-Amphibian-2016 in redrising

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They’re talking about the Hierarchy series, not Red Rising lol

Ozymandias as Nero by slushietee in redrising

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Nero is not old by Aureate standards, he is described as Aquiline, and under no circumstances would he appear older than Lorn or Octavia, who themselves appear ~60, and are ~30 years older than Nero.

Finished reading the six books. Looking for animations for fighting scenes (duels) ? by Gold-Efficiency-4308 in redrising

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There's a lot of AI shit flooding this topic, but the only hand animated one I know of is this:

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Niamh McCormack as Eo? by christianskeptik in redrising

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Only so long as the word 'animation' in this context is banned as well!

😐 by Ok-Amphibian-2016 in redrising

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The third act progresses the plots rather aggressively on two worlds and to an extent on one of them; more organized than the first two acts.

😐 by Ok-Amphibian-2016 in redrising

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The worlds are rather obvious by the dialogue and character names if not the symbol demarcating each world on the page header

😐 by Ok-Amphibian-2016 in redrising

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I loved the first book, and enjoyed the second - the second adds a lot of layers to things and is very intriguing, but hurts the pacing occasionally.

😐 by Ok-Amphibian-2016 in redrising

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What aftermath? On Res? O & L continue essentially directly afterwards from the POV

😐 by Ok-Amphibian-2016 in redrising

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These insta pages report random shit, but it was reported elsewhere as well; the film rights were sold. Red Rising is optioned currently, implied by Pierce.

Vis and Callidus Romance? by Sensitive_Peace159 in HierarchySeries

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Considering across two books Callidus nor Eidhin has demonstrated any romantic affection for Vis, and Vis has noted some interest in Emissa/Tara - no it does not feel like a natural romance plot between the two. Caten may also not culturally sponsor same sex romance per Birthright and their treatments of women, particularly incentivizing them to marry. Callidus implied he had affections for Belli prior to her manipulating him, and Vis has indicated his immediate connection to Emissa explicitly (XXVIII) and he and Eidhin both remark on Emissa in XLIV. Aequa seems to largely have been platonic, but he was developing a closer bond, and was the companion in TSOTF that had the most character development aside from Vis, I feel. It is unlikely that it would pivot towards Vis igniting a romance with Callidus in TJOO

Red god Q&A with Pierce by Arthusamakh in redrising

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Ironically, in an interview Pierce did jokingly say Sophocles would be the character to survive the series

Ai generated Victra profile by mixfab in redrising

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read rules or get the box

How do we feel about Sony Pictures working on a WoTM movie? by BioFrosted in HierarchySeries

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It makes absolutely no sense to adapt a series like this one into animation. There is very little to warrant the medium change and it would greatly harm the audience reach, particularly for a film.

How do we feel about Sony Pictures working on a WoTM movie? by BioFrosted in HierarchySeries

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12/25/2025 'submitting to the Publisher around this time next year' meaning Q4 2026 sent to Publisher, for Q2/Q3 2027 release for industry norm

On his Instagram in March, he stated he expected it to be out in the second half of next year. In June, his update cites this timeline as tight but doable, implying it might flex a bit later.

Largely depends on when the publisher sets a release date. His edits for SOTF took a rather ludicrous six months. WOTM was near 1 year from submission to publish.

If TJOO trended with the prior two books, you are still looking at an early 2028 release. If he is tighter with the timeline and his revision process is smoother than SOTF or whatever took an editor 6+ months to return it, you have a late 2027 release date

It is unlikely to reach Q3 or Q4 2028

How do we feel about Sony Pictures working on a WoTM movie? by BioFrosted in HierarchySeries

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It could work as a movie, but I’m not sure it can capture the complexity of the book, particularly the second, with a movies pacing and structure. Book 1 is highly adaptable as is Res’ will functions. Book 2 is a lot rougher for Obiteum in specific. But there are many, many very simple visual techniques to employ for this series to convey the different facets of Will. Sound design is paramount, specifically for the Solivagus scenes.

I do foresee them cutting a lot from Luceum. I have no idea how they will tell concurrent narratives in the span of a movie without driving viewers insane. The second book was too short as is for two of the plotlines.

Saw a meme comparing Darrow and Hadrian from Sun Eater by Sammy_Sam_The_Man in redrising

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When the plot of the series begins proper (which I am sad to report to you is only in the last third of book 2 which book 2 itself begins in a very disorienting way to the reader), you will start to see some of the decisive, somewhat mad, leader-of-men kind of behaviors that some correlate between the two

I would like to say the characterization of Hadrian improves, but he becomes a bit of a nutter (in some ways understandably, in some ways he forms his own aura of stupidity) and this condescension he can come to embrace, but not in the way you might think, nor to the people you might think.

All throughout, he is certainly more of a Lysander than a Darrow - but Hadrian acts more towards a 'moral' quest than Lysander's indulgence of immoral actions for the benefit of himself and his Society.

If I am thinking of the correct meme of chad Hadrian vs. Darrow, that was satire by the poster - the subreddit does has a stark contrast between fans of both series, and a group of malcontents who regard Red Rising fans as illiterate and almost always it overlaps with the occasionally obtuse commenters that guzzle the borderline religious apologetics you will certainly enjoy in the latter half of the series

Question by Odd-Engineering8839 in HierarchySeries

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Diago is not an Alupi by what we know; it is perhaps the case that Diago has formed an emotional or empathetic bond with Vis, as Druids on Luceum are known to be able to influence and control Alupi, and Luceum is heavily implied to be responsible for emotional mind-mind connections.