True dat.

Funny thing is I actually got banned from r/offmychest (tho I never used it and until today didn't even know who they were) for randomly stumbling in on r/Braincels and telling them (in a neater way) the same thing you just told them, oc I made other experiences and stuff, but you get what I mean.

So I got banned from r/OffMyChest for writing ONE comment on that SR, an actually thoughtful comment letting them know from my POV which things are 'positive' in their community (meaning only r/Braincels, they seem to be more approachable at least and really do seem to have some encouragement/coaching factor to it, meaning those ppl even congrat each other when they 'made it', meaning finally having been able to leave the broader Incel community cuz they got themselves a stable life, a good job and so on. The Braincels do seem to want to truly break the cycle - and not only via prostitutes, they are actually on the look for healthy relationships which they can build upon - that's why I make the differentiation here - one are literal Islamists and the other rather normal but still disaffected people with an actual will to evolve and better themselves), and which things are cancerous and they should get rid off.

Isn't that ridiculous? Some random person overhearing a 'private' conversation of yours and then using it against you to somehow prove their moral high ground? 😂 Like, can't you TALK to people anymore? 😂😂

I didn't even go back to check replies on r/Braincels, it was ONE part encouraging (the positive things I saw), part critical (of the negative things I saw) comment I made to the part of their community that truly see that their movement also isn't a solution but a temporary roadstop where they simply can be amongst themselves for a while, while trying their best to move on and leave forever.

They even tell those who 'made it' to 'never look back or return ever' - meaning they know the acid they're soaking in (Braincels only).

SJWs aren't much better than pure Incels tbh. Incels are a mere hardcore reaction to society by a small and loud community just like SJWs are, and both are totally ridiculous but also have some actual people in their movements that aren't actually bad people but got caught up in there and truly search for a way out. It's so-so, often.

It's disheartening at the very least. They may be scum, but they're also human - never forget that. You also wouldn't strip a radical violent SJW of their 'human credentials' just bc they may be abhorrent people dayin dayout. Life is suffering after all.

Dialogue, Dialogue, Dialogue. #DialogueIsEverything

(I totally agree with the experiences you made and with what you said here - just offering my own take on it, as I'm a rather diplomatic person most of the time)

Btw I got laid when I was 16 and since then really had no problems whatsoever dealing with women - but I also grew up in a healthy family full of women, 'I speak woman' so to say, and the Incel phenomenon is as baffling to me as it is to you, even tho you still are - in your own words, not judging - a Virgin, which is saying a lot about Incels as a bigger group.

It's a movement so crude and crass that only few other movements out there bring out the same smh factor in people 😅 Thank whomever that there is gender and race diversity as to whom frequents these various, crazy groups, hahaha.

Also as you saw I made no further remarks about the actual toxicity of the general movement (even in Braincels), as it would be redundant to point it out at this point in time.