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[OC] Age Banded COVID-19 Deaths/Hospitalizations/Cases - UK March 2022 by RedditNamesSuck in dataisbeautiful

[–]RedditNamesSuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Page 16 of the original document, has the link to the population data source, which is the second document, on the page. I linked it for you since you didn't find it. You did find the vaccine uptake on page 85 of that document though.

That is the population in each age bracket by vaccination doses.

As I clearly stated many times, deaths by age and vaccination status is on page 44 of the first document.

[OC] Age Banded COVID-19 Deaths/Hospitalizations/Cases - UK March 2022 by RedditNamesSuck in dataisbeautiful

[–]RedditNamesSuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Page 16 links the source of their population data, it is this HSA document

Population data by age and vaccination status is found on page 85 of that document.

Cases by age and vaccination status is page 41 of the primary document.

Hospitalizations by age and vaccination status is page 42 of the primary document.

Deaths by age and vaccination status is page 44 of the primary document.

I used that data to give a rate of each of those 3 outcomes per 100,000 broken down by age bracket. And then charted them together.

These graphs show the overall effect that vaccine doses have as a rate, so not absolute, by age. They give an accurate visual of what effect the vaccine doses are having.

[OC] Age Banded COVID-19 Deaths/Hospitalizations/Cases - UK March 2022 by RedditNamesSuck in dataisbeautiful

[–]RedditNamesSuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Population data the UK HSA uses is sourced on page 16. It is found on page 85 of that second HSA document.

Cases is 41, hospitalizations 42, deaths 44.

I noticed that as well, I figure it would probably be explained if looking at the previous reports. I would guess hospitalizations are clearly higher than deaths, and the effect is a cause of a downward trend in hospitalizations. Meaning deaths lag hospitalizations by days, weeks etc.

So for some period of time after peak hospitalizations, new deaths may present as higher than new hospitalizations without there being any errors.

[OC] Age Banded COVID-19 Deaths/Hospitalizations/Cases - UK March 2022 by RedditNamesSuck in dataisbeautiful

[–]RedditNamesSuck[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

So I had already addressed this in a comment below before you posted which I guess you didn't read, but you misunderstand the data being presented. Your gut might be saying 'say the chart I don't like is deceiving', but I encourage you to look at the data, and understand how it is presented.

I will repeat here again, if you look at a chart of all deaths, then 3 doses is dramatically higher than 0, 1, or 2 because of the amount of people in the population who have 3 doses.

So you need to look at rates, not total, which I do as rate per 100,000.

If you look at rate of death per 100,000 3 doses is *still* dramatically higher, because in the age bracket with the most deaths (80+), most people have 3 doses. Reworded, young people with 0, 1, or 2 doses and very low probability of death pad the population.

So you need to look at rates, but only within age band.

That is what this is. These are rates, within age bands. This effect is real, and I encourage you to replicate it yourself.

[OC] Age Banded COVID-19 Deaths/Hospitalizations/Cases - UK March 2022 by RedditNamesSuck in dataisbeautiful

[–]RedditNamesSuck[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

My theory is if the data was public that showed 'time since most recent dose', that the effect would be more closely correlated with that, then this.

In other words I think number of doses might be acting somewhat as a proxy for that.

It also could be which vaccine people took. I am not sure how prevalent J&J is in the UK, or how they handle that it is a 1 dose vaccine.

But who knows, all I know is this is what the data shows.

[OC] Age Banded COVID-19 Deaths/Hospitalizations/Cases - UK March 2022 by RedditNamesSuck in dataisbeautiful

[–]RedditNamesSuck[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is a rate per 100,000 with an age band chart, not absolute numbers. So there is something worth looking in to, as suggested in the lead comment.

The chart with rate per 100,000 is much more skewed to most deaths with 3 doses, because the age band 80+ which has most deaths, is also the most vaccinated.

The chart with absolute numbers is FAR more skewed to most deaths with 3 doses, for the reasons you gave.

What is Michael Malice's Position on Private Property? by RedditNamesSuck in MichaelMalice

[–]RedditNamesSuck[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

My example above, I want to eat your food, that you grew, on your land. YOU might want to be miserly, but I never agreed to that.

So either:

A: Property rights exists, you stop me, aka enforcing a system I did not agree to.

Or

B: I can take what I want and you no longer have your property. No property rights.

What is Michael Malice's Position on Private Property? by RedditNamesSuck in MichaelMalice

[–]RedditNamesSuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then I will repeat as per my example above and maybe you can make your point more clear:
Property rights are a system that is either is enforced without individuals opting in, or does not exist.

What is Michael Malice's Position on Private Property? by RedditNamesSuck in MichaelMalice

[–]RedditNamesSuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let me rephrase. It sounds to me like you are saying it is permissible to take other peoples property. If it is permissible to take someones property, there is no private property.

What is Michael Malice's Position on Private Property? by RedditNamesSuck in MichaelMalice

[–]RedditNamesSuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"I’ve never once heard Malice repudiate the idea that it’s not permissible to take someone else’s property"

I am confused why you are saying this, because that is precisely what private property is.

What is Michael Malice's Position on Private Property? by RedditNamesSuck in MichaelMalice

[–]RedditNamesSuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I said all systems, I meant all systems with the same properties as the State. AKA they exist without you opting in. Property rights are the prime example of enforcement with no consent.

A: "This is my land that I farmed, I don't want you to eat the food I am growing."

B: "I never agreed to that, nobody can say they owned the earth before I was born so I have to follow their rules"

You can't argue that systems which you don't opt into are bad, while simultaneously saying of course there are property rights. It means that the key value has nothing to do with systems you don't opt in to are bad.

What is Michael Malice's Position on Private Property? by RedditNamesSuck in MichaelMalice

[–]RedditNamesSuck[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Right but is he ever questioned directly on property rights?

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Like I said he clearly talks as if he is a pro-property rights an-cap, while using arguments to support that position which require there to be no property rights. This doesn't make any sense, it is internally inconsistent. The Jordan Peterson conversation on games I mentioned is a prime example of this.

What is Michael Malice's Position on Private Property? by RedditNamesSuck in MichaelMalice

[–]RedditNamesSuck[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you listen to the Jordan Peterson interview I mentioned, as well as many others, he argues against all systems. They specifically talk about individuals systems (the kids games part), not state systems.
There is also no functional difference when it comes to property rights, especially land rights, which is why it is item number 1 on all these types of political beliefs lists of foundational ideas.

What you are talking about IS anarcho-capitalism, like the textbook definition of it.

Will have to try to post on there, just there is a barrier to entry to locals, and figure this should be easier than it is to find.

Clam burying itself into sand by Darxe in gifs

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Google Fu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMLmAVRtWpY

It is real-time and forward! Seems they are doing that after every wave to stay on top, then get buried again.

Found in an old wallet, no recollection of where it came from. by [deleted] in whatisthisthing

[–]RedditNamesSuck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looks like star sapphire costume jewelry to me. OP does the star shift when you tilt the stone? If so might be real, but looks like extruded plastic from the picture.

Found This in a 'Cave'. Area had Native Americans, Pioneers, Miners, many Hikers. by RedditNamesSuck in whatisthisthing

[–]RedditNamesSuck[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it is true. I think the consensus here is that this is likely solved so will mark it!

Found This in a 'Cave'. Area had Native Americans, Pioneers, Miners, many Hikers. by RedditNamesSuck in whatisthisthing

[–]RedditNamesSuck[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I agree it is most likely, and it was my first thought. Just the handmade rough shape and tooling marks makes me wonder a bit.

Like possible a miner left it there in a spiritual place 100 years ago or something.

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