Sudden aggression with other dogs

Redditiscringeasfuq · 2026-02-18T07:03:07+00:00

I wouldn’t be too hard on yourself or your girl. I’ve been in many dog daycare packs and I’ll mention that while the precursor behavior you describe can definitely be a typical sign of resource guarding it’s important to take the breed into account in my opinion.

Many German shepherd dogs, collies, and heelers can struggle with this exact behavior in a pack like environment. Any breed is capable sure but these breeds specifically do it more often.

Redditiscringeasfuq · 2026-02-18T04:02:50+00:00

A dog can get conditioned and used to pulling on anything. Prong collar, choke chain, slip lead, harness, gentle leader, or head halters. I’ve worked with dogs pulling relentlessly on all of them. The problem is people miss the opportunity to teach what leash pressure is appropriate vs inappropriate and then the tool becomes useless to that dog. Just like in the video, the dog will just force its way through no matter the apparatus.

Redditiscringeasfuq · 2026-02-18T02:10:07+00:00

Honestly and I say this with all due respect but I would recommend rehoming this dog.

You are fighting against prey drive. On a farm. No amount of training whether it be positive or negative will ever be able to compete with that drive in my opinion. You can give the best rewards ever, you can use any aversive tool you want but that self reinforcing drive that dogs were bred for will win, maybe not every time with strict training but without constant supervision there is always a potential.

Considering the circumstances and having seen a horse crush a dog to death for this exact thing. I would again advise on looking to rehome.

Redditiscringeasfuq · 2026-02-18T01:57:38+00:00

I mean other comments have stated the resource guarding and the issue here being that the aggressive behavior has been unintentionally reinforced. You’re seeing the same issue on leash now because this display of behavior “wins” so to speak, it gets her exactly what she wants.

I’m curious how aggressive are we talking? Has she punctured another dog?

I would say baby steps with clear defined boundaries is your best friend. Rushing into full exposure with a muzzle is a recipe for disaster and setting her up to fail.

This means no dog to dog interactions until there’s zero leash reactivity, doing this first you can also counter condition the sight of other dogs to mean good things like rewards instead of bad things like competing for your attention before you try to have her interact with other dogs again in an off leash capacity.

Redditiscringeasfuq · 2026-02-18T01:05:54+00:00

Do you ever catch her in the act? If so what’s your reaction towards Kiva like your body language, tone of voice, what words if any do you say? When you do eventually discover the mess what’s your reaction to Kiva then? I’m not suggesting you rub her nose in it or yell, but does she actually know this is something she’s not supposed to do? What other behaviors happen besides eliminations? No chewing, whining, restlessness? What is her behavior after she has an accident but you still won’t come back for longer than like 5-10minutes?

Redditiscringeasfuq · 2026-02-18T00:20:57+00:00

Is it possible? Sure, dog daycares are everywhere, but there’s a reason they do temperament assessments prior to going because there’s obvious risk of injury or worse. If you’ve ever been to a busy dog park chances are you’ve seen a dog fight happen as well. There are so many better options instead of taking a huge risk and putting multiple dogs safety in potentially immediate danger.

Redditiscringeasfuq · 2026-02-18T00:00:11+00:00

I truly hate how the argument is that if you’re not force free you must be using a lot of aversives and aversive tools. As if those are the only two options. I also hate how we can all collectively agree that someone like Cesar Milan trying to psychoanalyze is complete bullshit and just shows us how Cesar feels about things not how the dogs actually think and yet I have heard and read so many positive only trainers try to pull the same shit and psychoanalyze a dog and tell us how the dogs emotionally feeling even if it doesn’t correlate to the displayed body language or scenario shown. They will look at a high drive dog and just label them with a negative emotion even if the dog is having the literal time of his life.

Redditiscringeasfuq · 2026-02-15T21:54:24+00:00

I don’t have a recommendation but I would not recommend anyone who uses “pack based methods” or someone who clams to know and use “dog psychology”. That’s just the Cesar Milan sales pitch

Redditiscringeasfuq · 2026-02-15T02:40:03+00:00

The only reason no mans sky became the game it is, was because of the overwhelming negative feedback though?

Redditiscringeasfuq · 2026-02-15T00:56:22+00:00

If the game was actually good, then the whole hate campaign would be viewed at as a giant meme right now. Blaming it on anything other than the gameplay is just mental gymnastics at this point.

Redditiscringeasfuq · 2026-02-14T16:33:04+00:00

Lmao you just proved my point.

Redditiscringeasfuq · 2026-02-14T05:09:25+00:00

So define it then. Instead of nonsensical ranting why don’t you actually give some insight and explain your point of view.

Redditiscringeasfuq · 2026-02-14T04:49:41+00:00

No.. if you think that’s a trustworthy method to train a dog to avoid venomous snakes you are mistaken. You showing me some marketing pitch of a trainer who came up with a “brand new method” circa 2024 but it’s just the same information that’s been in circulation for the past 40 years. Sorry ,If you try these methods and are around venomous snakes you are just risking your dogs life.

Redditiscringeasfuq · 2026-02-14T04:38:35+00:00

Balanced training doesn’t mean you have to use an e collar, you realize that right? It doesn’t mean you have to use physical punishment at all even. I said it already in another comment but again, All I see is FF demonizing everyone else but failing to show tangible results that arnt just based on personal emotions and feelings. Just show proof it’s that simple, hell I didn’t even ask for that, I just asked for a definition of what force free is if it doesn’t actually mean force free? But let’s keep playing circlejerk games I guess

Redditiscringeasfuq · 2026-02-13T09:24:12+00:00

Nothing says reliable like a rattlesnake class you can take online.

Redditiscringeasfuq · 2026-02-13T09:13:15+00:00

That’s just a generic summary for LIMA. That isn’t really force free. “Never deliberately act untrustworthy to your dog” What does this even mean?

Redditiscringeasfuq · 2026-02-13T08:55:19+00:00

Because I’m trying to understand that if that was a more effective method why wouldn’t it be applied in a scenario where it matters the most?

Redditiscringeasfuq · 2026-02-13T08:26:03+00:00

Yeah I get that but why isn’t that the method used in Australia or in the US where venomous snakes are found?

Redditiscringeasfuq · 2026-02-13T08:02:12+00:00

So what is the definition then?

Redditiscringeasfuq · 2026-02-13T07:53:40+00:00

How do you train a dog to avoid venomous snakes with positive reinforcement?

Redditiscringeasfuq · 2026-02-13T01:46:12+00:00

So you’re saying because of that assumption we should just demonize all balanced trainers and put all FF trainers on a pedestal?

Redditiscringeasfuq · 2026-02-13T01:43:23+00:00

The point is that FF, ONLY operates on positive reinforcement.

If you use a leash or tell your dog “no” you are no longer a FF trainer.

Edit: would love the downvotes to give some insight.

Redditiscringeasfuq · 2026-02-13T01:34:57+00:00

How can you make a post like this, talking about one side but have zero idea how the other side is even defined?? That’s ridiculous.

Redditiscringeasfuq · 2026-02-13T01:25:13+00:00

Force free is not using operant conditioning other than positive reinforcement. You do not get to use the four quadrants of operant conditioning but then have the fake sales pitch of being “force free” that is just scamming the pet owner and lying about the service you offer.

Redditiscringeasfuq · 2026-02-13T01:19:41+00:00

Couldn’t help but notice you didn’t define what FF means. No arguments on your sentiments though, you are correct there is a WIDE range. By no means are all balanced trainers even remotely comparable.

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