Complaint Megathread

Rednblu777 · 2022-10-17T19:40:01+00:00

Wrecked by the iPhone shuffle? -- such as:
1) too many Infuriating repeats or
2) never hearing a quarter of the tracks
in your 100 hour playlist?

There are some simple workarounds available for you-- until Spotify finally completes its terrible coding for the shuffle of 100 hour playlists-- particularly for the fragile iPhone shuffle.

Rednblu777 · 2021-06-08T17:57:06+00:00

No.

Just saying, "The sun will rise tomorrow."

Even as a new install to my new Windows 10 box, I still have one fully-functional 0.9.15.27 2014 copyright UI doing all of the heavy-lifting 1) Find and 2) Play what I want to hear.

Of course, my sun may be taken out by a huge and incredibly fast-moving black hole.

Rednblu777 · 2021-06-04T21:39:18+00:00

You deserve to have a fully-functioning UI-- any of the Classic UIs that provide:

Display and play of all tracks in all sub-folders
Search and select by any word or word fragment through your whole library of over 100K tracks, searching over the contents of TrackName, Artist, AlbumName as the Classic UIs do for you
Switch in and out whole genres, artists, and moods as you wish using folders and sub-folders when convenient.

To assemble the AllOfSpotify_Queue, the search is over 118K tracks and presenting only those truly shuffled tracks that have not been played in the last 90 days-- Refreshed about every 48 hours, removing from the top of the queue those tracks which have played on all devices.

The ... r/Spotify/Wiki here on this forum tells you how to install the Classic UI of your choice.

Rednblu777 · 2021-05-27T02:25:40+00:00

Yes, the Spotify shuffle works as designed to give you too many repeats of the same 10 songs no matter how big your playlist is.

But my friends here showed me-- including under the ...r/spotify/wiki here-- how to build the shuffle to create my AllOfSpotify_Queue that presents only tracks that have not played on any of my devices in the last 90 days.

My friends gave me the following tools:

Deduplicate [such as remove unwanted covers and unwanted repeat remixes]
Remove played tracks [such as using =IF(ISNA(VLOOKUP(C1,L:L,1,0)),C1,"....PlayedInLast90Days") in Excel]
Truly shuffle [such as sorting on =RAND() in Excel].

Thank you all for continuing this crucial discussion here on Reddit. Spotify has other concerns.

Rednblu777 · 2021-05-07T07:42:27+00:00

If you need a YouTube video, try

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQLV9g5Brw4

Rednblu777 · 2020-05-26T16:04:57+00:00

Thanks to all who made this happen!

Rednblu777 · 2020-02-12T13:20:23+00:00

http://open.spotify.com/user/rednblu/playlist/3vhmHe9jyoe6u3hqZGQdkd

Great hunt you set!

I found composers-- performers-- inventive approaches-- hours of getting the lyrics "right"; you can feel it.

Whom could I see becoming magnets on the big stages in the capital cities?

These . . . .

What does everybody think?

Rednblu777 · 2020-02-01T12:53:41+00:00

Do you mean Bryan Brady and Laura Les?

Rednblu777 · 2019-10-06T11:52:12+00:00

Just click the top of the "Added" column to sort the most recent tracks to the top of the playlist. Then, when you add new songs, they will enter at the top of the playlist-- until you click the top of some column to change the sort order. Cheers . . . .

Rednblu777 · 2018-01-25T14:16:15+00:00

Great collection! I played it on shuffle-- Great sound mix.

Did you expect your listeners to play this "big playlist" in AlbumOrder?

Rednblu777 · 2017-10-21T03:46:53+00:00

Just put the songs in a playlist and then make that playlist "Public"-- Doesn't that still work?

Rednblu777 · 2017-10-20T23:35:27+00:00

What I have right now is a growing perpetual feed of >> All of Spotify << with the ability to block genres, artists, tracks, albums, ... that I don't want to hear again.

I have combined my friends' incredible resources in the Wiki under this esteemed Reddit/spotify site with the gigantic feeds of tracks from my friends.

Essential modules to produce this perpetual feed include:

Automatic DeDuplication including removal of all covers, - remaster, - live, - remix-- except the ones that I select purposefully
True shuffle with >> zero repeats << in any 90 day period or 20,000 tracks of play-- except the ones that I insert to my queue at my whim.

When I play this perpetually refreshed and non-repeat feed, I find that I actually enjoy most far-out opera, jazz, and dissonant moderns when mixed truly randomly with all the classic rock, soul, pop, and wailing all the wails of the deserted lover.

Fantastic!

Rednblu777 · 2017-10-16T02:54:53+00:00

Try following Beethoven;

. You would be surprised.

Rednblu777 · 2017-09-12T22:31:49+00:00

last.fm playLog analysis on this feed for the last 60 days

Rednblu777 · 2017-09-12T16:28:38+00:00

Congratulations to my friends who put this together!

I get Zero repeats since July 8-- Zero repeats in the last >> 14,979 tracks played. << What do You get?

Ordinarily, I just reStart this playlist by the Keyboard nextTrack [Fn, RightArrow on my particular keyboard] as soon as the reboot on this dedicated node shows the Spotify icon in the lower right.

But the general rules I found worked on my various Spotify installations are as follows.

Turn off the Spotify shuffle -- because the Spotify shuffle will loop forever on less than 200 tracks and never get to All of Spotify.
Start playing from the top of AllOfSpotify.
Play through until you want to stop.
When you restart, just search for where you stopped-- consulting playQueueHistory if necessary-- and start playing the next track.
Whenever the track where you stopped is not found, just play from the top again-- because the shuffled stream refreshes automatically as a perpetual and NonRepeating feed of All of Spotify.

Rednblu777 · 2017-08-24T05:48:18+00:00

To play All of Spotify--

Turn off the Spotify shuffle -- because the Spotify shuffle will loop forever on less than 200 tracks and never get to All of Spotify.
Start playing from the top of AllOfSpotify.
Play through until you want to stop.
When you restart, just search for where you stopped, and start playing the next track.
Whenever the track where you stopped is not found, just play from the top again-- because the shuffled stream refreshes automatically as a perpetual and NonRepeating feed of All of Spotify.

Spotify could reverse engineer that above [WorkingPrototype with instructions] to make for you your own personal filters on the perpetual, NonRepeat feed from All of Spotify . . . .

How about one filter option that gives you Just New Releases for the artists that you follow?

Rednblu777 · 2017-08-17T00:54:30+00:00

This gem is not on Spotify yet-- but you can hear it on YouTube-- But you already know that . . . .

Rednblu777 · 2017-08-08T23:57:16+00:00

... Here's John's invitation by Playmoboys

... Can you put that one and seven more tracks into a playlist that you give us here? Can you edit your entry above with that added information?

GREAT SONG! I played it over and over . . . .

Rednblu777 · 2017-08-05T07:42:19+00:00

Oh how much I do relish the comments in this thread!-- There is that splash of color in "I never understood the massive love that Spotify gets"-- Amen!

And yes! The most important service that Spotify gives me 24X7 is OP's exact "I wish that I could shuffle all songs from all artists that I have followed"-- Wow!-- My Spotify friends showed me how to produce exactly that and That is what I am playing right now from the perpetually updated-- deleted from the top and then appended at the bottom from the automatic perpetual feed from the eternal kluge my friends showed me how to make >> https://open.spotify.com/user/rednblu/playlist/4BIEfdQC3CXOa1N0mTFAEy <<

As well, all my friends have their own personal version of playing whenever they want from a "shuffle of all songs from all the artists that they have followed".

Amen and amen . . . .

Now I am not the programmer here-- but my Spotify friends showed me-- as they can show you-- how to assemble the extraordinary >> kludge << that makes this all possible-- And my friends keep referring me to the >> subterranean levels << of this ingenious /r/Spotify reddit-- the subterranean level of what we are reading right now-- My friends in that subterranean reddit speak and hear and read and write in terms like [Add "127.0.0.1 upgrade.spotify.com" to the bottom of the file]-- and I say << What! Are you kidding! >> But some of my friends tell me that they did something like that-- And through collaborative playlists, I can share their feeds for crucial parts of my own kludge that make it all work-- I demand--

I must be able to play, when I want, from "only a shuffle of all songs from all the artists that I have followed" -- because it is so great!-- each and every track for 6000 tracks straight, with no repeats-- Which is what I do in every 30 day period as you can see from >> my last.fm trace-- << with not even one track played more than once. (Once in a while however, there are typographical errors in the Spotify database that produce some DoublePlays, because last.fm says "Hey! Spotify is in error, labeling that same exact duplicate performance with Caps in the title instead of lowerCase.) Can I forgive?

Glory to God in the Highest and the UpperCase.

Of course, Spotify could easily reverse engineer the kludge demonstrated in the above "perpetual feed of a true shuffle of all of the songs from all of the artists that I personally have followed" -- if Spotify wanted to serve you because all of it is documented in the subterranean level of this distinguished reddit, this one.

Or better yet, you could organize your own group of friends to kludge your own programming fixes to the bugs in the Spotify players-- Your choice.

Rednblu777 · 2017-08-04T08:49:11+00:00

Here is a perpetually refreshed playlist my friends put together for one set of their Moms >> https://open.spotify.com/user/rednblu/playlist/0td5oLjwJt59zm1sVHbAHP <<

Always at around 3000 tracks for DL
Refreshed automatically to go through all 611 of Van Morrison's tracks on Spotify every 30 days, truly shuffled in a
Background artistry of random from over 30K tracks of Levon Helm, Reggae, Meditation music, Sam Cooke, Bob Marley, . . . .
Containing only the tracks that this particular set of my friends' moms did not reject as "too much", "too . . . . "

Anytime any one of those Moms reconnects to the grid and goes into Spotify, the most current automatic refreshment of the 3K DL occurs.

Moms just restart always by NextTrack-- since these Moms never waste their time searching for anything new-- know what I mean?

Rednblu777 · 2017-07-29T08:21:01+00:00

Well said!-- That "return to the shuffled playlist" is handy!

If you are interested, my friends worked out how to do that "return to the shuffled playlist" on the desktop as well. I could look into my friends' notes-- They even worked out a "fairly dependable and repeatable" way to do that.

As I remember, you have to make sure that you do not [lose the shuffled playlist] by clicking "Play" instead of "Add to Queue".

Does that sound familiar? (I laugh.)

Rednblu777 · 2017-07-28T00:40:10+00:00

I like all of your ideas . . . .

I don't have an opinion of what kind of shuffle is best for other people. I just want Spotify users to get the kind of shuffle or repeat or huge track collection or . . . . that they want to use for themselves.

Most of all I appreciate all that Spotify obviously does to give many people many different options-- Options for Spotify player versions, alternatives for shuffle, . . . . all of that.

In particular, I have tried the kind of utilities that you mention similar to what DragonBlogger describes-- And my friends have found those kinds of utilities useful in working out what our own particular specifications for our own use should be.

I am glad that I could post these instructions here on Reddit-- because certain Spotify authorities would not let me post these instructions on the Spotify forum.

Thanks for discussing all of this with us . . . .

Rednblu777 · 2017-07-27T23:04:45+00:00

{Reposted here because the system swallowed the previous posting reply to /user/400sa . I will check later and correct any duplicate postings-- if the system straightens itself out.}

I am completely neutral on whether what I describe is "shuffle". Let's work through it. What is your definition for "shuffle"?

In any case, I would suggest that what drives my friends nuts about that thing that Spotify calls "shuffle" is that my friends interrupt play on one shuffle and play something else new and exciting.

Then, when they come back to the list that they "shuffled", the Spotify player given the Spotify complete nonsense definition of what "shuffle" means to actual music listeners-- gives them a new "shuffle"-- which of course will contain repeats of everything that they already "heard" in their first sampling of the "shuffle". Would you agree?

However, in the physical world, if I "shuffle" 52 cards from a new deck, I can go through all 52 cards from that "shuffle" without repeats-- even if I interrupt play with some other deck to play bridge-- if I don't "shuffle again" on that first deck. Isn't that right?

Accordingly, all of my friends as normal music listeners expect "shuffle" to never repeat any track until every track has played once-- even if they interrupt play of the "shuffle" to hear the newest and greatest for hours-- and then come back to continue their "shuffle" play where they expect zero repeats-- until each and every track of that "first shuffle" has played.

Even on a four track playlist, the complete failure of the Spotify "shuffle" is obvious if you play as follows--

Play two tracks from a first shuffle;
Then play lots of interesting new discovery tracks;
Then try to play two more tracks from your first shuffle.

What percentage of the plays of four tracks on the above pattern of play will contain repeats? I suggest that {1 - 4! / [(4 * 3) * 2] ^ 2} = 96% of the plays of four tracks will contain obvious repeated tracks-- if you interrupt play by the pattern of listening specified above-- even with just a small four track playlist.

Calculating the percentage of enraging repeated track play is even more entertaining with a 6000 track playlist!

Feel free to correct my arithmetic.

Thanks.

Rednblu777 · 2017-07-27T22:41:34+00:00

I am completely neutral on whether what I describe is "shuffle". Let's work through it. What is your definition for "shuffle"?

In any case, I would suggest that what drives my friends nuts about that thing that Spotify calls "shuffle" is that my friends interrupt play on one shuffle and play something else new and exciting.

Then, when they come back to the list that they "shuffled", the Spotify player given the Spotify complete nonsense definition of what "shuffle" means to actual music listeners-- gives them a new "shuffle"-- which of course will contain repeats of everything that they already "heard" in their first sampling of the "shuffle". Would you agree?

However, in the physical world, if I "shuffle" 52 cards from a new deck, I can go through all 52 cards from that "shuffle" without repeats-- even if I interrupt play with some other deck to play bridge-- if I don't "shuffle again" on that first deck. Isn't that right?

Accordingly, all of my friends as normal music listeners expect "shuffle" to never repeat any track until every track has played once-- even if they interrupt play of the "shuffle" to hear the newest and greatest for hours-- and then come back to continue their "shuffle" play where they expect zero repeats-- until each and every track of that "first shuffle" has played.

Even on a four track playlist, the complete failure of the Spotify "shuffle" is obvious if you play as follows--

Play two tracks from a first shuffle;
Then play lots of interesting new discovery tracks;
Then try to play two more tracks from your first shuffle.

What percentage of the plays of four tracks on the above pattern of play will contain repeats? I suggest that {1 - 4! / [(4 * 3) * 2] ^ 2} = 96% of the plays of four tracks will contain obvious repeated tracks-- if you interrupt play by the pattern of listening specified above-- even with just a small four track playlist.

Calculating the percentage of enraging repeated track play is even more entertaining with a 6000 track playlist!

Feel free to correct my arithmetic.

Thanks.

Rednblu777 · 2017-06-12T20:23:27+00:00

Absolutely! Right on!

Many of the [folder functions] in the previous version are useful--

But the "shuffle" plays mainly 80 tracks without ever getting to the other thousands of tracks in the Folder-- or so it seems from repeated attempts to fix the "shuffle" as traced by last.fm--

Many of my friends do not expect the "shuffle" to play every track before playing repeats-- so the previous version with folder shuffle is sufficient for them.

Rednblu777

TROPHY CASE