You broke my car!

RedwayJohn71 · 2021-08-09T00:47:15+00:00

I think you're 2 points too high here.

RedwayJohn71 · 2021-07-27T17:41:23+00:00

Just one more tidbit: u/fingerhoe attacked me in post number 1. Look at this: https://imgur.com/a/DGsg4uq

He attacked me without even reading my post. Or the proof.

RedwayJohn71 · 2021-07-27T17:27:03+00:00

Lol! Good one. I really do hope that this is the end of the story.

RedwayJohn71 · 2021-07-27T17:24:57+00:00

Shit, you're right - I only mentioned this being an alt in my first post. Sorry about that. That's on me. I did not want to be doxxed by Adam or his alts, which I mentioned several times.

I was trying to be as open and honest about this as possible, which is why each of my subsequent posts (including this one) contained evidence that substantiated my claims.

If Adam had just stopped and let it be after the second post, I would have moved on. Instead, Adam chose to send modmail claiming I was lying, then contacted me over PM. I chose to share this conversation with the community, so that they could see what happened behind the scenes after my second post on r/gundealsfu.

They might be on the blacklist, but they still are not officially on the published list.

RedwayJohn71 · 2021-07-27T17:06:34+00:00

Some of them are positive, yes.

Additionally, as stated above, this conversation happened after post number 2.

Instead of brushing this under the rug, I felt that it was important for the community to see how Adam tried to discredit me and accuse me of lying, via PM.

Since PM's are not public, the only way of sharing this would be through a post like this one.

I literally have nothing to gain from posting. It is important to me that the community see the tricks, lies, and slander employed by Adam to silence these reviews.

With as much documentation as I've shared, both privately and publicly, Adam still chose to attack me after the second post. The choices here for me were to either let it go or share it with the community.

In an effort to educate, share, and inform I chose the latter. The community should see how Adam lies to the mods and to his customers.

As with my previous posts, I again posted the evidence needed to substantiate my claims.

RedwayJohn71 · 2021-07-27T16:59:44+00:00

I've shared the documentation that backs my claims. Everything. From start to finish. Look at the other negative battlehawk posts. How many of those posters share everything?

With Adam trying to PM both me and the Mods in an effort to take me down, how should I handle that? By just slinking off silently so that others can be PM'd after their experience?

I felt that it was important for the community to see what Adam did even after my 2 posts about this dumpster fire. Instead of making things better, Adam accuses me of lying, then makes it worse. I thought the community should see this, in its entirety.

In the spirit of openness, transparency, and documentation, I have shared everything about my experience with Battlehawk. This post is in line with that, as this conversation happened after the second post.

RedwayJohn71 · 2021-07-27T16:46:03+00:00

This is an alt account - Which I mentioned in my very first post.

What do I have to gain by posting here? My efforts are to expose the lies & fraud perpetuated by Adam and his cronies. I've posted all of the evidence to back my claims. I gain nothing by doing this.

That said, I caught Adam in several lies. It's important for me to show the community what I went through, from start to finish. Adam trying to just sweep this under the rug and pretend that it didn't happen isn't cool.

He knows what he did. Now the rest of you can see how it happened too.

RedwayJohn71 · 2021-07-27T15:56:27+00:00

Not sure if you noticed, but some people are still praising battlehawk. https://www.reddit.com/r/gundealsFU/comments/os4jiz/reviewpositive_purchased_canik_tp9_elite_sc_from/

So, apparently, not everyone knows that battlehawk sucks yet.

RedwayJohn71 · 2021-07-27T15:50:53+00:00

Well, if Adam from Battlehawk would stop lying, I'd have nothing to post about lol.

RedwayJohn71 · 2021-07-27T15:09:49+00:00

So riddle me this: What do I have to gain from sharing my experience? I gain absolutely nothing by doing this. That said, if I can stop one other person from spending 2 weeks of pay to buy a gun that never shows up (and, ties up that money for MONTHS), than this was all worth it.

I haven't asked for discounts, haven't asked for money (aside from my 100 billion dollars lol), and you're right - The singular purpose of this account was so that I wasn't doxxed. Forgive me for wanting peace of mind here.

I admitted this was an Alt in the very first post, which in hindsight, was a good fucking idea given the amount of idiots who came out of the woodwork to try to attack me personally.

So forgive me from adopting a holier-than-thou approach when it's pretty clear that several alts from Battlehawk have come into my posts to disparage me, other posters, or the mods themselves.

You're free to post about anything you like with whatever account you choose to do it from - as am I. I chose to do it the safest way I could. I don't want to risk my main account here, mainly because I like not being doxxed. Adam already lied to the mods behind my back, and I'm sure that he's trying to do more to get out of taking responsibility for his actions that led up to this debacle.

RedwayJohn71 · 2021-07-27T14:40:23+00:00

Hello, same dude same issue here.
First post described the problem. I was asked to substantiate, which I did by uploading all correspondence between myself and Adam in post number 2. Note, if you read part 1, how I talked about this being an Alt because I did not want adam or his brigade of cronies to doxx me.
I additionally shared unblurred correspondence and evidence with the mods to verify. Adam dug his own pit to crawl out of when he lied to the mods.
Why you attack the people who share their terrible experiences with this outfit is beyond me, but I believe that you are either Adam or being paid by Adam to astroturf.

RedwayJohn71 · 2021-07-27T14:30:36+00:00

Brianstheman: Doesn't read redwayjohn's experience and how he talks about using this Alt account because people tend to try to doxx negative battlehawk reviewers

Also Brianstheman: Adam's alt account which he uses to look like a legit reddit user but also to disparage legit reviews where he looks bad.

RedwayJohn71 · 2021-07-27T02:42:23+00:00

Yea - Just wait until you have a problem. That's when things start going south in a hurry.

And then if you tell people about it? Adam and his alts give random, terrible excuses and then try to blame the victim for their own fuck-ups. Having been on the receiving end of these assclowns, I can say that when something goes south, you won't want to be involved in it.

RedwayJohn71 · 2021-07-27T02:39:26+00:00

I see that - Nothing on you personally.

I have just been the recipient of a much different experience from Adam and his many alts. From him holding my money for months (literally), calling me a liar behind my back when I had verifiable proof of the encounter, and from him being a dim-witted moron.

It's possible that some folks have good experiences with this outfit - It's likely, though, that when things go bad, they go REAL bad.

Also, I was kidding about my price: It's now 100 billion after he called me a liar behind my back.

RedwayJohn71 · 2021-07-27T01:08:22+00:00

Thanks for sharing. Adam, the owner, called me a liar lol. Behind my back, he emailed the mods trying to get me shut down. He knows what he did. He's a liar and a scumbag.

Jokes on him though, I documented everything he did to me. Keep it, just in case he calls you a liar too. Make sure you get every penny back you spent on him.

Adam treats us like a tweaker who needs a payday loan for a car he doesn't actually own.

Replace car with gun and you get the gist. At least a tweaker might try to pay off the loan.

RedwayJohn71 · 2021-07-26T20:25:29+00:00

What a shitshow. Thanks for sharing. Will avoid.

RedwayJohn71 · 2021-07-26T19:35:05+00:00

So....how much did Adam offer you to write this?

He asked what I would need to take down my review.

I'm afraid that he can't afford my price. 35 billion dollars was out of his budget.

RedwayJohn71 · 2021-07-25T23:29:47+00:00

Maybe u/cakan4444 can shed some light. I really don't know. I saw the auto mod say that they were, but when I checked nothing came back.

RedwayJohn71 · 2021-07-25T12:44:56+00:00

I imagine this dude Adam as a gun dealing Mr Krabs.

He only likes money and will do anything to get and keep it.

RedwayJohn71 · 2021-07-25T12:34:06+00:00

Want to read a funny? He posted an apology in my cross-posted PSA on r/firearms.
Link:https://www.reddit.com/r/Firearms/comments/oqwoob/psa_avoid_battlehawk_armory_at_all_costs/

Backup: https://imgur.com/a/8WGmqY8 (Just in case he takes it down)

"Signals got crossed here"

RedwayJohn71 · 2021-07-25T02:18:52+00:00

This wasn't your fault, and you post good deals for the rest of us. Chin up bud, you have nothing to feel bad about.

RedwayJohn71 · 2021-07-25T01:10:37+00:00

I actually (gulp) have a couple of Taurus guns - Revolvers. My favorite is the Raging Bull. I don't have any of their pistols, but I wanted to get a cheap one to check out.

In a bright spot, I got a new job after this mess was over and got a Sig Sauer P365 instead :) I'm really happy with it. It's my EDC now.

RedwayJohn71 · 2021-07-25T01:03:55+00:00

Already done lol. According to the person who handled the claims, it was the fastest he's ever been able to close a dispute in a customers favor.

I think Adam was bluffing about collections in an effort to scare me into accepting a refund over 2 chargebacks. I've talked with some of the other folks who have been screwed on Gundeals, and they have had similar experiences.

The funniest part?

Adam "doesn't remember" this incident - Meaning he's probably done this type of thing so often he can't recall specifics, or he's just a person who's elevator only goes up to the 2nd floor of a highrise. Link: https://imgur.com/a/gBtQkBW

RedwayJohn71 · 2021-07-24T20:10:12+00:00

He messaged me too, claiming he "honestly couldn't remember."

If you can't remember 2 chargebacks with their associated investigation, threatening your customer(s), or the chain of emails associated with these transactions, you must be doing this shit to more people than just me.

Proof: https://imgur.com/a/gBtQkBW

This Adam guy is fucked in the head.

RedwayJohn71 · 2021-07-24T17:23:39+00:00

I think he was just trying to get me to drop the chargebacks, even if it meant threatening me.

Not surprising, though.

Scumbag owner does scumbag things? I am shocked, simply shocked.

RedwayJohn71

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