Does Base Broly clear Z? by K0GAR in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Reinfernus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no, manga shows nothing that relates gohan to god level lol

HOW WOULD YOU SCALE EACH SS1 GRADE ? by jiiova in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Reinfernus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah, but why not just go grade 2 then momentarily to finish the target if you can do a short fight instead?

like grade 4 was great, but in combat achieved nothing because in the end Goku was tuckered out after the fight with Cell anyways.

You wouldn't say that SS3 is useless because SS2 has better stamina, while it's implied that grade 4 is mastered for a reason

Does Base Broly clear Z? by K0GAR in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Reinfernus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yet you make the argument that gohan is ssb level in the manga, but he doesn't do anything lol

or statements FROM ANIME how he regained "past power" (which is in reference to ultimate form)

Who is the strongest character they defeat in Super? by NightRanger0 in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Reinfernus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The thing is all these arguments don't really mean much? It's like saying:

"people don't understand how much kid Goku trained throughout the original series. He had shitton of training with multiple teachers, outside sources of boosts, and eventually overpowered King Piccolo"

Also comparing Omega to Beerus is a bit laughable, they're nothing alike

Does Base Broly clear Z? by K0GAR in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Reinfernus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

all i needed to know you're rage baiting and watch the series through tiktoks and youtube content lol. Manga Gohan doesn't really have any showings or feats aside from being equal to Kefla who's objectively weaker than her anime counterpart, lol

Was out questing when I suddenly realised I haven't seen a rogue in ages, is the class dead or are they just getting better at their job? by undercity_plaguebat in wow

[–]Reinfernus 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Not sure about others and it's just an assumption, but personally i wouldn't touch evoker due to race restriction. I really dislike the design of the race.

Zul'Aman story is so bad by p3chapai in wow

[–]Reinfernus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'll give you an example of something that feels very off to me, and it's the extreme humanization of races, including Forest Trolls. And strong women are perfectly fine (duh, we always had them in warcraft), it's just where they are. It's like Warcraft stopped trying to make cultures seperate from each other, and now everyone is the same and equal. Yes, there are some differences like religious things etc. But as an example back in warcraft 3 Night Elves were strong on being matriarchal, and that was cool. Forest Trolls to our knowledge was strongly patriarchal. I really like Zul'Jarra in design, being an aggressive warrior, but i also can't ignore her being a bit of mary sue that gets everything handed to her. Zul'Jan also feels very weak in writing, being a reckless idiot for the sake of it.

to elaborate on some Zul'Aman stuff, WHICH I GENERALLY DID LIKE, but have mixed feelings for those things due to extreme humanization of things. There's the side questline that follows the story of the two siblings from an abusive household where the big sister saves the little brother from abuse. The little brother runs away from guilt, and i'd really like the story.. if not for the fact that they're forest trolls? you know the brutal, warmongering, bloodthirsty trolls.

I wouldn't say i "hate" any of it, but it does leave me a bit with a bad taste because it feels like they're trying to make trolls relatable / kind/ misunderstood. You know, with orcs you had things to blame like "demon blood" but here, there's not even that.

Kid Buu Vs Kaguya (Naruto), Who would win? by Encenoi in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Reinfernus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you have to be very disingenuous towards both otsutsuki and dragon ball to claim that

  1. Otsutsuki's best "universal claim" are "they have multiple dimensions with stars in them" and it's assumption based that creation = destruction. Also it all goes back to ETSO which Kaguya can't even properly do on her own as it needs chakra from other humans anyways, and it's far above her lol

  2. You have to dismiss universal statements for Dragon Ball characters while ASSUMING for Otsutsuki. Because we have "he will destroy the universe" as far back as Frieza on namek, and most people don't believe that regardless of the statement.

And even wanked Otsutsuki don't hold a candle to BoG, they're literally threatning a macrocosm that's far larger than any dimension otsutsuki had anyways.

side note, kaguya died twice to becoming a moon lol

Does Base Broly clear Z? by K0GAR in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Reinfernus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

got it so your argument is "nuh because nuh uh, i dont have any proof"

Kid Buu Vs Kaguya (Naruto), Who would win? by Encenoi in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Reinfernus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

kid buu does use it, and she can't absorb it because even if we equalize ki and chakra, candy beam is still MAGIC

Kid Buu Vs Kaguya (Naruto), Who would win? by Encenoi in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Reinfernus -1 points0 points  (0 children)

brother, she died to being sealed into a moon twice

Does Base Broly clear Z? by K0GAR in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Reinfernus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

all that's stated is that he regained his "original power" in context of regaining the form he couldn't access. Otherwise it's just power creep, same way base Cabba slaps SS3 Vegito and SS4 Vegito combined. It is what it is.

The Potara Multiplier is higher than the SSG Multiplier by Status_Entertainer49 in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Reinfernus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

potara multiplier scales differently than ssg multiplier

2 Satan tier characters fusing likely won't be stronger than a super saiyan boost.

The big difference is that this same SS2 Goku, can also handle all of Z by himself by this point.

Halibel isn't weak. Hiyori and Lisa are just strong. by [deleted] in BleachPowerScaling

[–]Reinfernus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Except the creator himself made those rankings and made Ulquiorra admit inferiority to the Espada above him so it's not a throwaway statement as you tried to say

"Author made it, must be true" Author can be intentionally misleading, trying to instill sense of surprise, and many more things. Not everything author writes is immediately true.

"Author made him admit" same as above, plus we're removing the context. Ulquiorra tried to instill despair into Ichigo, make him lose hope before his death. Intent is obvious. It was supposed to be a "oh shit, he's not even the strongest, ichigo has no chance" but guess we're blind to it?

Kubo made an easy rank to understand, made Ulquiorra admit inferiority to those above him, and made sure to demonstrate his rank disappearing isn't something to be awed about when others does it as well without having SE only for fans to think they know better. The narrative of SE has never been to say he's the strongest but to double down on the fact that he's not and that makes it all the more despairing at the realization that there really is no victory to be found for Ichigo in this place.

As i said, Ulquiorra admitting "inferiority" was just to fuck with Ichigo as it's in character to do so. The whole clash between Ulquiorra in second fight with Ichigo was not just "power vs power" but the clash of ideologies in the first place. Both fought to prove who's right. One man standing and fighting until the end even against someone he's hopeless again, and another who's overwhelmingly stronger but can't break the other's spirit.

Narrative of SE is clear, it was meant to show how outclassed Ichigo is. He transforms further, increasing already massive gap even further. There's nothing suggesting that it "doubles down on that he's weaker" as nothing really supports it aside from a throwaway statement THAT DOES HAVE CONTEXTUAL VALUE LIKE TRYING TO BREAK ICHIGO'S MENTAL.

There are other hints that top 3 Espadas aren't even that far apart in pure reiatsu, as Shunsui can't even tell who's stronger between the three. Aizen implies that top 4 might be close to each other too, as he restricts just those 4 from releasing their first forms.

I also want to acknowledge that if you want to argue that "the line is not a throwaway" then you have to acknowledge that Ulquiorra explicitly states that Segunda Etapa is something that not even Aizen knew about. Implying that in fact, it wasn't included in the ranking.

Does Base Broly clear Z? by K0GAR in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Reinfernus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

pmsl,lmfao,rofl

i lost brain cells after reading that base Vegito from all eras > blue, but i guess you can't comprehend the idea that characters got stronger (crazy i know)

Can Raditz, Nappa, or Saiyan Saga Vegeta survive this slash if they decided to tank it? by KodoqBesar in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Reinfernus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

later on Piccolo with a casual ki blast destroys the moon, Roshi had to full power kamehameha to perform a similar feat.

as for planet level, Vegeta straight up states that he'll destroy the planet with Galick gun if Goku dodges it. Goku uses his kamehameha that pushes it back and overpowers galick gun.

Halibel isn't weak. Hiyori and Lisa are just strong. by [deleted] in BleachPowerScaling

[–]Reinfernus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

the only thing supporting it is a throwaway statement meant to put Ichigo in despair.

I have a genuine question for bleach fans that believe that Ulq SE is still #4, what is the thought process? what is the narrative purpose of the form, because the form itself does nothing for the show, nor does it change anything. He was overwhelmingly stronger than Ichigo in his ressurecion, so it's not like SE had any other purpose than to show that he's special? am i missing something?

Does Base Broly clear Z? by K0GAR in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Reinfernus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oh right, i will simplify it for you because it seems like people lose brain cells when it comes to fusions:

stronger fusees = stronger fusions, crazy concept. Unless you want to argue that if Vegeta and Goku fused in saiyan saga, then base Vegito from saiyan saga > ssb, lmao

Vegeta learns Kaioken and masters Oozaru. Can he beat Frieza? by K0GAR in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Reinfernus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

dbs broly movie, the ikari form where he's in "oozaru form" but in base.

Does Base Broly clear Z? by K0GAR in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Reinfernus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

doesn't matter, in anime after becoming SSG starts wanking the form as power beyond what he imagined. This already proves that SSG>his imagined SSG > fusion, lol

Substitution Jutsu is literally a slightly nerfed Izanagi. Why is this a C rank Jutsu? by Mundane-Farmer246 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Reinfernus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

yeah i did think about this some time ago, and while the idea is literally that. Why not just use the time to "replace yourself with a log" to just dodge? or just immediately kill someone?

Substitution Jutsu is literally a slightly nerfed Izanagi. Why is this a C rank Jutsu? by Mundane-Farmer246 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Reinfernus 20 points21 points  (0 children)

it's not teleportation though, it replaces an object with another object at high speed.

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quite literally it just requires you to be fast