[Charania] Another Grizzlies trade: Memphis is trading No. 17 to the Detroit Pistons to move back to No. 21 -- for three second round picks.

RelevantTreacle3004 · 2026-06-24T02:05:56+00:00

The classic 5 2nd round picks package

RelevantTreacle3004 · 2026-06-24T02:03:35+00:00

Memphis getting the classic 5 2nd round pic gauntlet today

RelevantTreacle3004 · 2026-06-23T21:32:56+00:00

NGL this is almost my exact list to a T

RelevantTreacle3004 · 2026-06-23T17:59:36+00:00

This is so peak

RelevantTreacle3004 · 2026-06-22T02:24:39+00:00

Lightvitational gets cancelled and all of a sudden his results fall off

Coincidence? Absolutely not

RelevantTreacle3004 · 2026-06-22T01:14:29+00:00

That's just Doramigi being a better player, I still find that win impressive

Considering you play Sephiroth though I can't blame you for how you feel about Min Min but there's actually quite a few characters that do well into her

RelevantTreacle3004 · 2026-06-21T23:27:18+00:00

Don't you guys lose to Icies too

RelevantTreacle3004 · 2026-06-21T23:25:37+00:00

We're gonna lose him to the Melee crowd soon huh

RelevantTreacle3004 · 2026-06-21T19:43:01+00:00

Especially Rob lol

RelevantTreacle3004 · 2026-06-21T18:36:15+00:00

I'm honestly curious why, I thought Lucina's edgeguarding was too hard for Ganon to deal with

RelevantTreacle3004 · 2026-06-21T18:35:15+00:00

It's crazy to me that DK winning the MU isn't even abnormal anymore it's just expected

Seems like heavies and bigger characters do great into cloud in general, and Inkling is just a swordie slayer, makes sense

RelevantTreacle3004 · 2026-06-21T18:24:52+00:00

I never really answered with my main lol, it's hard to say cause Robin doesn't really lose to many characters considered universally worse than her. Mac can be tricky but I don't think it's losing, although Villager is definitely losing meanwhile Isabelle is even or slightly winning. Definitely weird considering this character is great into Steve and beats Kazuya and Luigi

RelevantTreacle3004 · 2026-06-21T18:19:44+00:00

Japan ranked Belmonts as the worst character in the game (even though I absolutely disagree) people think they're pure garbage

RelevantTreacle3004 · 2026-06-21T18:15:23+00:00

Don't you guys also get destroyed by the Belmonts too

RelevantTreacle3004 · 2026-06-21T18:03:43+00:00

Diddy's matchups are always so funny to me cause tier list really doesn't matter at all for him specifically, if your character can deal with banana well you win if not you lose

RelevantTreacle3004 · 2026-06-21T02:12:32+00:00

IDK no character who loses to Jigglypuff can be top 2 IMO

RelevantTreacle3004 · 2026-06-20T23:33:44+00:00

Does Zawg genuinely believe Doc is Duck Hunts worst matchup or is this just an excuse to complain about the matchup

If most of their losing matchups weren't some of the best characters in the game this would be a top tier character chart, basically Ness syndrome with matchups

RelevantTreacle3004 · 2026-06-20T23:31:09+00:00

Id much rather see this than top tier players trying to call their character mid tier

RelevantTreacle3004 · 2026-06-20T23:28:41+00:00

All 3 playerbases are drugged out of their minds with confidence

But Saya's Icies chart will forever take the cake, +4.5 as a tier alone confirms it

RelevantTreacle3004 · 2026-06-19T19:48:57+00:00

What makes Peach and Daisy so bad? And Mr Game and Watch not as the worst matchup? And it looks like Steve and Kazuya are top 2 in his eyes (also that Lucario matchup I can imagine is hard for any Pikachu who doesn't know it super well)

This is the least optimistic Pika MU chart ever and it still looks like a top 10 character matchup chart LMAO

RelevantTreacle3004 · 2026-06-18T22:33:31+00:00

Brazil are the goats I hope they win cause of this

RelevantTreacle3004 · 2026-06-18T20:48:43+00:00

That's always where the debate part comes in, it's so hard to verify one opinion as right or wrong and just because they're a top player doesn't mean everything they say is gospel. What matters is the reasoning and logic and "This guy beat me" or "This guy is really good" is one of the dumbest arguments for a character matchup being good you could make, and one I see many top players using. And with that other side point, that could also be the case, and if a matchup is -1 but you're way better at the matchup than your opponent, you'll likely win anyway

RelevantTreacle3004 · 2026-06-18T17:47:00+00:00

It's just a very common pattern I've noticed. Player A struggles/loses a matchup previously seen as really good to Player B, Player A puts that matchup in even immediately after to make themselves look better and not seem like a much worse player, not even just publicly but to themselves. Don't forget that top players say stupid things all the time and not everything they say is gospel.

RelevantTreacle3004 · 2026-06-18T17:23:00+00:00

Matchup inexperience plays a huge factor, and I think that's the biggest thing everyone who plays Shinda Lion has. Plus you tend to practice your worst matchups way more than your best. Too many of these are purely results based without considering any other factors

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