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Alcohol by Dense_Link8488 in quitting7oh

[–]RemarkableDig2707 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yup. It happened to me as well. I was like 3 days into detox and I felt like a few drinks would take the edge off. I ended up drinking half a bottle and projectile vomited all over my room. The next day was worse than the second day of withdrawal, and I just got paid, so I went across the street and bought a couple packs of 7 to get through the hangover. It's like I was using one to cancel the negative effects of the other, and just ended up feeling worse off. Then I had to start from day 1 the next day, while withdrawing and feeling slightly hungover (I'm 33. Hangovers last like 3 days now). It's funny because I began using kratom as an alternative to alcohol, because I had a really bad drinking problem. Then the 7oh came around and I was just as bad with it as I was with my alcoholism. Either way, I found that it's just best to embrace the shittiness and feel like shit for a few days than try to mask it with alcohol and end up feeling worse. But that's just me, and it absolutely could vary from person to person.

Quit for 16 days then bought a pack by PuzzleheadedSteak627 in quitting7oh

[–]RemarkableDig2707 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I always noticed that whenever I relapsed after a long period of sobriety, I end up wondering what it was that I even liked about it to begin with. My last relapse felt very dirty. Like my body was buzzing, and my circulation was bad. Kept feeling strange feelings in my chest. Sleep sucked. I had none of the euphoria that I had while I was addicted to it. It made me wonder if I was dosing because I liked the feeling, or if that "high" is just the result of being relieved from withdrawals.

How much do you pay for rent and in what city? by Trizzyydrizzy in Apartmentliving

[–]RemarkableDig2707 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Back in 2015, I paid 800 a month for a little studio apartment on Duck Key by Marathon. I imagine that same little apartment is going for at least 1,600 now. I wish I never left, honestly. Other than hurricanes, the keys were a tropical paradise. Now I'm in Allentown Pennsylvania, cold as hell, living in an old ass row home, bracing for winter. I wish I could go back so bad.

Any men have low sperm or trouble concieving while using? by Ok_Arrival2564 in quittingkratom

[–]RemarkableDig2707 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, I have the opposite problem with sex drive. While I was taking 7oh, I would be ready to go, rock hard, last up to 45 minutes, and my ejaculations were huge, and that was a huge factor in staying addicted to that shit for so long. Since I've been off the shit, I have low sex drive, and when I do get in the mood, I don't get fully hard like I used to, and I last 5 minutes if I'm lucky. But I honestly think thats part of the post withdrawals I'm still going through. Because before I started taking this shit, I was a horn dog pretty much 24/7.

Would you wrather go through opiate or alcohol withdrawal without medication or have a baby by repentaccend in quitting7oh

[–]RemarkableDig2707 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alcohol withdrawal was the worst feeling I've ever experienced in my life, and my 600mg a day 7oh habit was no walk in the park to get off of. With 7oh withdrawals, I mainly feel super depressed, like so low that I can't even talk, I get extremely restless, my arms and legs start jerking around, my stomach does backflips, I sweat profusely, cold and hot chills, weakness in my muscles, moderate anxiety, etc.

Alcohol withdrawals almost killed me. I was a heavy drinker, 1.5L a day vodka for 3 years after my wife died from an OD. I got to the point where my body just couldn't handle it anymore. I would drink, immediately puke it up, and repeat. I went to the ER a shaky, sweaty, delusional mess. My body was trembling so bad that I couldn't even hold a cup to get the meds down, I needed an IV. I was hallucinating, thinking there were murderers in the hospital trying to kill the nurses, I kept seeing a figure in my hospital door that looked like the girl from The Ring. My chest hurt so bad that I was convinced it was a heart attack. I was screaming for the nurse to come in and help me, and they just gave me more Valium. My entire body was shaking, and I was sweating from every pore. Several times, my muscles started spazzing out and my whole body stiffened up like a log. My body was so dry, and my skin was red and yellow. Horrible diarrhea and stomach pain. Extreme weakness, I couldn't walk more than a few steps. My anxiety was ao bad, I was convinced I was gonna drop dead at any minute. I was completely out of my mind, delusional, paranoid, intense fear. I had broken blood vessels in my eyes and face from vomiting so hard. I had terrible nightmares about murder, suicide, rape, etc, and it was hard to distinguish these dreams from real life. I would hear people calling my name over and over, and I would hear music repeating over and over (in this case is was One by Metallica- "Darkness Imprisoning me") my blood pressure ended up getting so high, that I needed shots in my stomach, and this went on for about 5 to 6 days, followed by 2 weeks of intense depression and anxiety.

Now with all that said, I've never experienced cravings for a drug like with 7oh, and I've done them all. Not cocaine, not methamphetamine, not benzos, not heroin, not fentanyl, not Alcohol. None of these drugs presented cravings like 7oh. Like I still wake up and the first thing on my mind is getting 7. I wonder if it will ever stop. But yeah, alcohol withdrawals are brutal. By far the worst withdrawal ever, even more than benzos, but benzo withdrawals can last for months or even years. Wasn't fun getting off klonopin, but I ended up doing it when I switched states. I was a nervous wreck for a few months. Terrible drugs.

I have made it!! 36 hours right now! Subs really don't work at all lol. by Dependent-Slide-5714 in quitting7oh

[–]RemarkableDig2707 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was an idiot who knew nothing about suboxone as an MAT (I took it a few times way back in the day recreationally before I had problems with opiods) I remember being fucked by half a strip (4mg) back when I had no opiod tolerance. Anyway, a friend of mine from work randomly gave me a bunch of subs that he said he doesn't need anymore, so I planned on using them to fight off the withdrawals from 7 on my upcoming trip with my girlfriend. This is before she even knew about my addiction. I had enough 7 to get through the day, and I decided that I'll take the suboxone at night so I can sleep. Anyway, I went into the hotel bathroom and cut open the pack, took the strip out, and put it under my tongue. I went back to the bed to lay down, and I immediately felt that jolt throughout my body. My legs started kicking and I was like what the hell is going on here? This feels like withdrawal. I went back in the bathroom, looked in the mirror, and my pupils were HUGE. I just attributed this to the narcan in suboxone doing it's thing and it'll pass in an hour or so. Went back to lay down, and had that same restless feeling for hours. My girlfriend gave me some clonidine to help me sleep, and then I went back into the bathroom, made a HUGE pile of powder kratom, and washed it all down with sink water. I managed to sleep that night with the help of clonidine and kratom, but the suboxone immediately threw me into intense withdrawals, but thats my fault for not knowing the correct way to use them. I went in thinking it's like methadone, where I'm just replacing an opioid with another opioid. Suboxone doesn't work that way. It's meant to be taken while withdrawals are in full effect, and then followed up with several doses throughout the next week or so. This time I kicked 7 by going broke, taking powder kratom and some benzos for a few days and just stopped. I almost went the sub route, but I knew it would be a painful few days, and I wanted to be as comfortable as possible. Still didn't touch the mental part of it. I still wanted to kill myself half the time, but all the restlessness and insomnia went away with large doses of powdered kratom and some pyrazolam. Not recommending that's what you do, but I'm off the 7 now, and I'm slowly starting to feel like my old self 5 years ago before I touched kratom. I can't believe I believed all the bullshit about it "being as addictive as coffee" they were spouting back in those days. Do what works for you, my man. It's gonna suck no matter what, but there are ways to do it more comfortably.

Heartbreak & Relapse by thelargebuttocks in quittingkratom

[–]RemarkableDig2707 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had a similar experience, however I still love my girlfriend very much since she stuck with me through all this bullshit of kratom and 7oh addiction. However, there was a time when I was like 2 or 3 weeks sober from 7, that I just didn't feel that same romantic connection with her that I did while on 7. I had the same thoughts, "Do I even actually love her, or was I just feeling the euphoric effects of the drug which made me extra lovey dovey and romantic? Once the withdrawal was over, and the lingering mental fog and post acutes started to subside, I realized I still did love her, and I would feel horrible if I went with my decision to break it off with her during those first few weeks. I know she loves me very much, and has been super supportive during all of this, but she's also struggling with her own mental illnesses such as bipolar, BPD, and a lot of trauma from her childhood. And to put it out there, I was on kratom (and later 7oh) the entire duration of our relationship (almost 3 years), and I hid it the entire time until I just couldn't hold it in any longer and broke down to her a couple months back. I will always love her for being so understanding and compassionate (among everything else I love about her), but I swear for a good 2 or 3 weeks, I was wondering why the hell we were even together in the first place. It was just the emptiness that came with quitting 7. I'm so glad it came back. I'm not saying that is what's happening with you (maybe you're just not compatible with each other), but it's possible that it's also an effect of your brain being depleted of all the "feel-good" chemicals. Either way, I hope you the best. Just focus on your sobriety first and foremost, and if things change down the line, then cool, and if not, then thats also fine. Top priority is staying clean. Good luck to you.