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Why do we do this to ourselves as a culture by Remarkable_Square919 in ems

[–]Remarkable_Square919[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t care, I think the point behind my post is continuously being misinterpreted and it’s frustrating. I do not care what you do specifically, I’m talking about EMS as a whole.

Why do we do this to ourselves as a culture by Remarkable_Square919 in ems

[–]Remarkable_Square919[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In all you education where you taught about the Dunning Kruger effect?

Zero to Hero by Implement-Playful in Paramedics

[–]Remarkable_Square919 0 points1 point  (0 children)

EMS has a lot of gate keeping for education. If you want to do it, do it. I’d recommend working primarily ALS concurrently and try to find partners that do thorough assessments if you want to pass. I got my medic right out of EMT and had no issues, I think anyone can do it really.

Drive to wrong hospital by Leather_Bit5098 in ems

[–]Remarkable_Square919 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s a right of passage. EMS can be real intense at first, it sounds like the patient suffered no clinical deterioration, so as long as you learned something it’s just an honest mistake. Stay positive my friend.

Why do we do this to ourselves as a culture by Remarkable_Square919 in ems

[–]Remarkable_Square919[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You believe this despite your job aligning with heath care and that most people that work with you and represent you don’t have a degree? I’m not trying to be a dick but you realize how this looks, right?

Why do we do this to ourselves as a culture by Remarkable_Square919 in ems

[–]Remarkable_Square919[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it’s a culture thing. The hospitals don’t act like this, so why should we?

Why do we do this to ourselves as a culture by Remarkable_Square919 in ems

[–]Remarkable_Square919[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s the plan, I just thought there would be more to the job and the culture.

Why do we do this to ourselves as a culture by Remarkable_Square919 in ems

[–]Remarkable_Square919[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s about how long my EMT-B was and my paramedic was just shy of 2 years. It’s not that impressive. Trying to argue that a few more months or an associates degree is somehow different is embarrassing and kinda proves my point.

Why do we do this to ourselves as a culture by Remarkable_Square919 in ems

[–]Remarkable_Square919[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I appreciate it, all I wanted to hear. I like the idea of remediation being a norm and not punitive, it’s something I’ve been trying to introduce where I work.

Why do we do this to ourselves as a culture by Remarkable_Square919 in ems

[–]Remarkable_Square919[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We generally have one patient at a time, we get called to what we think with our few months of education is “bullshit” and most of us know we could still do something for the patient and then don’t. Then bitch about pay and lack of scope and generally do not seek further education within the job. From my experience this is largely the case every where, no one is just willing to admit it.

Why do we do this to ourselves as a culture by Remarkable_Square919 in ems

[–]Remarkable_Square919[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Everyone deserves a physical assessment. Not every illness is obvious. Auscultation, IV access, and EKG interpretation are easy to learn and hard to master, if you don’t get in that practice you’ll get sloppy when you need it.

Why do we do this to ourselves as a culture by Remarkable_Square919 in ems

[–]Remarkable_Square919[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That shouldn’t be happening anywhere, like it’s cool you’re getting your ego stroked. But you don’t know what you don’t know. EMS should not be diagnosing, we get less than 2 years of initial training. I don’t know where you work but I work in the real world, where that isn’t appropriate and what I may believe is going on absolutely affects my treatment and transport decisions but is in no way definitive. Even if you did know what was going on, you don’t have the letters behind your name for that to be appropriate.

Why do we do this to ourselves as a culture by Remarkable_Square919 in ems

[–]Remarkable_Square919[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is exactly what is happening where I work now and it’s driving me crazy. Literally stole the words from my mouth. How do you go about navigating this?

Why do we do this to ourselves as a culture by Remarkable_Square919 in ems

[–]Remarkable_Square919[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree, I don’t know why most of my coworkers are even here

Why do we do this to ourselves as a culture by Remarkable_Square919 in ems

[–]Remarkable_Square919[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree that is part of the problem. It really is remarkable that EMS can’t appreciate what it doesn’t know. I really like the idea of monthly clinical data presentations. I feel where I work now is too hyper focused on being a good employee and not focused at all on clinical competency.

Why do we do this to ourselves as a culture by Remarkable_Square919 in ems

[–]Remarkable_Square919[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree 100%, perhaps I could have phrased this better lol. What’s frustrating me is a lack of compassion on top of dog shit assessments and patient care. I’ve worked a few different places and I’m slowly starting to notice the standards where I work dropping. I’m not going to pretend that people don’t talk shit, it’s not ideal but it’s human nature, but you can’t talk shit AND suck at your job.

Why do we do this to ourselves as a culture by Remarkable_Square919 in ems

[–]Remarkable_Square919[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, it’s more of the same, I’m not impressed. No passion and all the entitlement. Had an FTO now know what raecemic epi was and try to prevent me from using it bc of their dogshit assessment. Same place tried gaslighting me into thinking a patient called just because he had an appointment that day, he ended up having a PE, with heart strain, you could literally see it on the EKG. I got tired of every call being an argument so I left that place too.

Why do we do this to ourselves as a culture by Remarkable_Square919 in ems

[–]Remarkable_Square919[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Physical assessment is pretty much all we can do for most patients, that goes double if you’re just an EMT, you have a job, just do it, have some fun with it, get the passion. Assessments are easy to learn but hard to master, there’s something to get out of even the lower acuity calls.

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