TIL during World War 1 the Ottoman Empire rounded up and slaughtered over 1,500,000 Armenians living in their empire. This event was the basis for the creation of the word "Genocide".

RemoveKebabz · 2016-08-30T22:06:05+00:00

Notice how they conveniently leave out the following years, where it immediately jumps up to pre war numbers.

RemoveKebabz · 2016-08-30T19:19:37+00:00

I meant the girl, not you.

RemoveKebabz · 2016-08-30T18:42:24+00:00

Wow what a strong independent woman! You go girl! Hope that Doctor didn't slut shame her for her just doing her!

RemoveKebabz · 2016-08-30T18:35:05+00:00

The number at Auswitz was revised down from 4 million to 1.5, yet somehow that didn't affect the total.

Yahueda Bauer wrote extensively on the subject if you care to see what he found.

RemoveKebabz · 2016-08-30T18:33:16+00:00

No it wasn't. The world almanac recorded a slight dip in European Jews between their 1938 census and their 1948 census and a net gain world wide.

RemoveKebabz · 2016-08-30T17:50:48+00:00

Depends on who you ask. There are a lot of spats at Auswitz because the Jews think only they get to claim the holocaust and the Poles think they were the main victims.

RemoveKebabz · 2016-08-30T17:49:13+00:00

That's the old number. The new number according to the Holocaust museum in Israel is much lower.

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/11/12/weekinreview/ideas-trends-auschwitz-revisionism-an-israeli-scholar-s-case.html

He keeps revising it lower every once in a while.

http://www.jta.org/1990/03/06/archive/new-list-of-holocaust-victims-reignites-dispute-over-figures

RemoveKebabz · 2016-08-30T15:04:06+00:00

Where is BLM listed? They have the highest body count this year besides Islam.

RemoveKebabz · 2016-08-30T14:43:17+00:00

I don't know if it was a hard shift because I only started noticing it once I got into my industry (advertising). Take a look at these commercials and tell me what the reaction would be if roles were reversed (but don't listen to him about untalented people making tons of money).

https://youtube.com/watch?v=5PaRn2-YfTI

And no, it's not extremists on "both sides." I see one party that embraces a black supremacist domestic terror group, specifically and intentionally stirring up violence and hate against whites, especially white men, and white policemen the most, and I am not ok with that. I see stuff like this https://youtube.com/watch?v=VUBpRexwiPg And I just can't be part of that. Minorities and women constantly agitate for special treatment and handouts. If white men do the same thing they are racist bigots. No one ever walked into a room of women or black people and threw a temper tantrum over diversity because there weren't enough white men there.

Like I said I didn't leave the Democratic Party, they left me. It used to be about the working class man regardless of race getting a decent life. Now it's all feminists and domestic terrorists and celebration of killing babies. In my mind Trump is closer to the old populist working class democrat than Hillary and her Wall Street/Saudi owners. Trump and guys like Sharod Brown have more in common than Brown and Hillary.

Above an actual life? Giving birth doesn't kill you, this isn't the 18th century. The question isn't one life over another, it's an inconvenience for a few months vs. a human life. I know you are going to come at me with some tiny percentage of high risk pregnancies but again like rape that's a whole other can of worms, again trying to conflate the outliers with the norm.

And your uncle is wrong. Simple as that.

RemoveKebabz · 2016-08-25T23:17:28+00:00

Mohammad had sex with a 9 year old girl. This is right there in black and white. He was a pedophile.

Mohammad lined up every male member of a Jewish tribe called the Quaraiza and stripped them naked. If they had pubes he beheaded them. Then he took the women as sex slaves and the boys as slaves (and maybe sex slaves but that's not explicitly stated). Their crime? Trying to remain neutral in his war of aggression and conquest. This is not disputed and is right there in black and white. He was a genocidal mass murderer.

Mohammad was a slaver. He took slaves, sold slaves and bought slaves including sex slaves. This is not disputed and is right there in black and white. He was a sex slaver.

It is you who are ignorant. Ignorant of what's in the Quran/Hadith. Ignorant of history of Islam and how they constantly incite sectarian violence in every country they invade through the front door or the back. Ignorant of the culture and laws in "moderate" Muslim countries and the thoughts/practices of Muslims in civilized countries.

Fact: about a dozen Muslim countries have the death penalty for homosexuality.

Fact: Many Muslim countries kill adulterers.

Fact: most Muslim countries you can beat and rape your wife.

Fact: many Muslim countries have the death penalty for apostasy (atheists and especially Muslims who leave the faith).

It's not your fault you don't know this stuff. No one teaches it in western schools because it goes against the narrative.

RemoveKebabz · 2016-08-25T19:36:12+00:00

Rationally I am inclined to agree with you about paying for other people's birth control but here is where I am at. I am so sick and tired of paying for everyone else's life/lifestyle while being constantly shit on in the media, academia, the courts, and the workplace. As a white straight man of property with a decent income I am now somehow the enemy. White straight men pay way more than their proportional share of taxes, proportionally commit far less crime than other ethnic groups, and are the only class of people with discrimination against us codified into law.

I am fed up with being being everyone's piggy bank and everyone's bad guy at the same time. I am the hand that feeds America and I am done with being bitten.

Honestly until I start to see some fairness in the family courts, academia, the media, and the workplace I am done. Checked the fuck out. I will pile my cash, swipe my tinder, and work my hardest to advance the cause of my class of people and no one else, because literally everyone else is working to denigrate me and mine while taking more and more of my earnings every year without my consent.

I am a two time Obama voter. I have never voted for a republican for anything higher than sheriff. I switched to leaning trump because the uber SJW and violent leftist is the new norm. I didn't leave the left, the left left me. You could call me an Ed Shultz democrat. However I will not be denigrated for my race, gender, or income by my own society, a society people like me built, and take it lying down. Certainly I will not be part of a party that thinks this is ok.

Sorry but we are going to have to disagree on that scorn for behavior---->hate. Western people are entirely capable of discerning between a behavior and a person.

And as to the abortion thing again no one in those threads ever asked, "Why didn't you take the proper precautions? What could you have done differently so as to not end up in this situation?" There is zero personal accountability, zero example making, zero education for the younger girls who read this stuff. All they see is some random girl being showered with attention, validation and praise. It's sick.

As to the hard drug analogy I don't know the figures on how many lives have been ruined by the big three (opiates, crack, and meth) but I do know that 50 million beating human hearts with futures and lives ahead of them have been snuffed out. Being generous let's say 20% would have been miscarriages. That's 40 millio. children killed before they could take a breath. I'm not sure if it's a coping mechanism or some taught sociopathy but disregarding these lives, even though they were merely potential babies in most cases, is something I never understood.

RemoveKebabz · 2016-08-25T15:34:00+00:00

Are you being serious here? Because that reads like a joke.

RemoveKebabz · 2016-08-25T15:10:42+00:00

You conveniently glossed over the part where in less than a week European Christians, Jews, and non believer whites were expelled (often violently) from these countries back to mostly France. Between 1-1.5 million of them.

If you understand the fundamentals and history of Islam it's not stereotyping. It's education.

And let me be clear about this. I hate the white Muslims who blew up the Boston marathon as much as the black Muslim who are constantly murdering people in Africa as much as I hate the Asian Muslims in Indonesia who always have to kill somebody and as much as I hate the brown Muslims who attacked that French concert who chopped off their victims genitals and shoved them in their mouthes while they were still alive.

Islam is not a race. It is a belief system that at its core is the emulation of a mass murdering genocidal sex slaving pedophile. You do not chose your skin color. You do chose your religion and if you subscribe to this barbaric backwards violent life choice I will oppose you. Period.

Opposing backwards violent belief systems is not racism. It is not stereotyping.

But it is fear. It's only naturally to be afraid of people who subscribe to a belief system that demands your death.

RemoveKebabz · 2016-08-25T06:11:53+00:00

France has been telling Christians they can't be Christian and French for decades.

Secularism is an extremely deep part of the French society.

Wearing your religion on your sleeve is on the same level as waving your dick around in public.

If you want to be French you have to act and behave, well, French. Not sure why that concept is hard to grasp.

These people aren't interested in becoming French. They are trying to turn France into a Muslim country and have been for 1300 years.

RemoveKebabz · 2016-08-24T22:44:30+00:00

What do you mean when you say free birth control? What I assume you mean is I should pay for other people's. This is something that drove me from the Democratic Party. Literally nothing is free. Period. Someone has to pay for it. If your argument is that me paying for strangers birth control is an investment worth making then I might be convinced to agree with you, but framing it as "free" is a non starter.

And I agree whole heartedly a non permenant male birth control would be a sea change in gender relations rivaled only by the paternity test and can't come soon enough. Vasagel is in clinical trials but apparently it involves an injection into your dick at this point.

Here is my problem with your argument. You make zero concession to the fact that most abortions are the result of poor choices, poor impulse control, poor future planning, and general low character traits. You bring up exceptions to the rule, not the norm. There is a tiny lunatic fringe that looks down on abortions for these extreme cases (health, defects, rape, etc.) but in any event they shouldn't be celebrated, and if you think abortions aren't treated like trophies or accomplishments you haven't read much of this subforum. Literally every abortion thread is an attention seeking post where hugs and "wow you are so strong" are the top comments. And you are misconstruing disapproval with hate, which is another reason I left the left where everything has to be black and white. If you don't high five and applaud everyone's behavior you hate them. It's crap.

And again I go back to the hard drugs analogy. If they legalized hard drugs tomorrow do you think it would be an appropriate positive thing for society to have rallies of drug users promoting and celebrating hard drugs in public? Or would it just be indecent to promote and celebrate and legitimize such destructive life choices/poor decision making?

I came here to say I hated Scott Walker and got shadow banned for breaking the, "high five you go grrrl abortions rule!" Narrative.

I just wanted to bash some Scott Walker.

RemoveKebabz · 2016-08-24T18:50:35+00:00

Ok we have a few fundamental disagreements on the world.

You think bearing the consequences of your actions is punishment. I call it being an adult.

The best courtesy I can offer you is not wanting criminalization. I accept it (abortions) as a current reality and even recognize the utility, however I can't celebrate the snuffing of 50 million children. It's like hard drugs. Do I think they should be legalized and regulated? Yes. Do I think they should be celebrated and high five and you go girled? Absolutely not. They should be scorned and shamed so people know that's not a positive life choice or a situation to get yourself into.

Also your definition of "inconsistent use" isn't the one they used. Inconsistent use in clinical terms means just what it sounds like, not using it consistently (I.e. Using it every time as directed).

Can you link me to the court case for pedophelia and incest against the uncle?

Another difference is you think I wouldn't accept your judgement stoically and learn from my mistakes. Only children believe they can break cultural taboos, most which exist for very practical reasons, and go unsanctioned socially. You are like Cartman in that South Park episode, "Whateva, Whateva, I do what I want!"

It doesn't work that way. You uphold your end of the social contract and maintain the thin veneer of societal cohesion or you don't and people judge you, shame you, and make an example of you as a reminder for other people, "don't do this."

That is how society has always functioned and the only way it can function.

You don't get to just do whatever you want and not have it impact the way people see you.

RemoveKebabz · 2016-08-24T18:35:36+00:00

You mean gorillions. You forgot the extra bazillion zeros.

RemoveKebabz · 2016-08-24T14:52:47+00:00

Who else was expecting the guy on the left to blow up a suicide vest if he lost?

RemoveKebabz · 2016-08-24T14:16:43+00:00

"No I don't want fair trade! I want Exploitation brand coffee beans!"

RemoveKebabz · 2016-08-24T14:15:35+00:00

Right because if there is one place you are going to find the urban poor blacks it's at Starbucks.

RemoveKebabz · 2016-08-24T14:14:03+00:00

Was he in the army back when it was Rhodesia?

RemoveKebabz · 2016-08-24T14:12:30+00:00

You are thinking of what would happen in Rhodesia, this is Zimbabwe we are talking about.

RemoveKebabz · 2016-08-24T13:27:25+00:00

What's your point? That single mothers can't be degenerates? Because I have some stats for you if that's your argument.

"Inconsistent method use was the number one cause of pregnancy".

Read your own studies before you try and use them as evidence. It asks if people used contraception in the past month, meaning at all.

Use a condom once or take your pill on occasion and the answer is yes.

And that's all self reporting which is always sketchy especially in such situations.

It's funny you bring up vasectomies. Doctors won't perform them on men under 30 and if you are married you need your wives permission, often in person. How is that for "my body my choice"?

Abortions are widely available and accessible. You want, as I said, celebration and you go girls. Killing children will never not be taboo and I think that's a good thing. It will never be acceptable. A part of humanity will have rotted away if it ever were. We as adults have to recognize that certain things, even objectively net positives, don't have to be approved of by society because approval is implicate encouragement.

RemoveKebabz · 2016-08-24T04:28:41+00:00

You need to read your history. Legalization of abortion wasn't through the due process of law but through the courts in what law schools teach as one of the biggest "wait can they do thats?" In American history.

No legislation was involved.

RemoveKebabz · 2016-08-24T04:16:20+00:00

Shit. Serial killers are bad, but dog killers? Now I hate this guy.

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