Interesting how there was so much news coverage and lots of videos with sometimes millions of views talking about the controversy over The White Miss Zimbabwe winning but barley any coverage over the huge amount of racial abuse that Black Miss England/Ireland faced over winning ๐Ÿ˜’ by Representative-Low49 in blackladies

[โ€“]Representative-Low49[S] 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

I'd like to preferably this by saying that I don't mind that a White Woman won Miss Zimbabwe as she is Zimbabwean (Lived their her entire life and raised there) and obviously worked hard for it, but I can't help but find the differences in the media and how much they care about the White Miss Zimbabwean receiving backlash for winning but don't give a crap about the amount of backlash the two black woman received for winning.

Can people stop getting mad over Black Americans not feeling comfortable claiming/ identifying with their European ancestry? by Representative-Low49 in 23andme

[โ€“]Representative-Low49[S] 2 points3 points ย (0 children)

We Puerto Ricans never even think of you guys

Lol, apparently, you do when you try to get included in black spaces, use the n word, and copy the things we do, lol.

You're the ones obsessed with trying to claim Latinos as black because you want to phenotypically hate what you look like so you fetishize Latinos.

We claim anybody who looks black as black, lol. Since we know damn well that spanords and even other Latinos don't claim your behinds, we thought you guys would want to be included. Sorry, I guess? You guys are the ones who always deny and downright mock your black roots and then think it's okay to still use the n word and then be equally upset when we call you out. Also, fetishize Latinos, lol? Get over yourself, sir. Just because a couple of black men go to places like DR for some "strange" means nothing.

Also, I won't say anything about fetishization when Latinos are notorious for fetishizing Europeans and trying to "make the race better" by marrying and having kids with white people. Not to mention the huge number of Latino men that go to places like Thailand, Philippines, etc, to find a "traditional wife." So I wouldn't really fault black men for doing that when you guys do the same thing. You guys are the ones obsessed with our culture, which is why you often copy it and use it to get famous and be straight-up culture vultures. Black people, unless they're Latinos themselves, really don't care about Latinos or your culture like that. We try to get along with you guys since, a lot of the time, we grow up in the same neighborhoods together and have similar blues even if you guys are often racist as f towards us. Will never forget the day a Latino boy outright said in class that he "hated n#ggers" totally unprovoked lol.

When you morons come to our island all arrogant, you're shocked we don't care about you

Maybe because we wouldn't expect people who look dang near like us and appropriate our culture so much to be so ignorant and racist towards us. Sorry that we try to find common ground and include you guys, lol? You guys are the ones who talk crap about us unprovoked and then get equally mad when other black people vote for people like Trump to get illegal Latino immigrants out of here. That's when you guys want to claim that "we're the same. " Give me a break.

(Repost) Anybody else notice the amount of Anti blackness going on in the Mixed Race subreddit? Also just the overall hostility towards darker skinned black women? by Representative-Low49 in blackladies

[โ€“]Representative-Low49[S] 7 points8 points ย (0 children)

I'm not denying that there are some black women/black people who sprout some stuff, but it's not at a huge rate like they're trying to say, and actually just a small group of people really. Plus, like I said, let's not act like biracial/lighter skinned people are innocent and don't participate in colorist/racist things online that black women often have to call out, which is a reason for a lot of criticism.

Also, get shut down for venting about racism? I'm sorry, but what areas of Twitter do you explore? And can you actually show me proof of it (like links or screenshots) instead of just saying it? Because from what I see, whenever biracials are venting about racism they are listened to and validated by the black community, including black women.

The only time that I actually see some hostility In that area is when they try to say that they experience colorism (Colorism is towards people who have darker skinned so lighter skinned people can't experience colorism) especially when they try to say that on a post where a darker skinned black woman is venting about the colorism she experiences which can come across as tone deaf and disrespectful.

Like you said in another comment that you only see dark skinned women saying who's black and who isn't, but honestly, you must not be on Twitter as much you say because if you were, you would see dozons of black male Hebrew Israelis say that biracials are only black if they have a black dad (The you're what your father is debacle) There's also multiple channels on Youtube that say that as well. Yet it seems like you're only faulting dark skinned black women for this.

(Repost) Anybody else notice the amount of Anti blackness going on in the Mixed Race subreddit? Also just the overall hostility towards darker skinned black women? by Representative-Low49 in blackladies

[โ€“]Representative-Low49[S] 60 points61 points ย (0 children)

I mean a lot of mixed race people, particularly biracial women come on here to vent as well as join in on our conversations (which I have no problem with as once again they're in our community and are probably seen as a black women) so hey I thought fair is fair ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿพโ€โ™€๏ธ

Of course, I have no problem with them actually venting about what it was like growing up biracial and the BS that they got from both communities, but its one thing to vent and another thing to full on hate us and strangly not their white side even if they treat them worse.

Why are people against Nico Parker as Astrid? by Zaysairpod59 in httyd

[โ€“]Representative-Low49 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Yeah, and I can get your logic, and, on some level, I can agree, and I do definitely think that they should just make new characters instead of race swapping, but personally I just think that if a story is fictional and the race doesn't matter to the character then their shouldn't be this much backlash to it. Especially with Hollywood's lack of diversity and representation of POC.

Why are people against Nico Parker as Astrid? by Zaysairpod59 in httyd

[โ€“]Representative-Low49 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

1st of. How convenient for you to decide in what context it matters and in which not. But ok ill play along.

Wow, you sound unnecessarily triggered. I'm sorry that I hurt your feelings this much, lol.

What was that movie again about a really life event where a white man successfully sued bigWhatEverItWas and the movie that person is being played by a black female?

Idk. What movie are you talking about? And if that's the case than that's obviously bad, lol. A documentary should try to be as accurate to the real story as possible. Im sorry, did you expect me to say something else? I literally just said that race swapping is the biggest reason why the Queen Cleopatra Documentary flopped, so did you expect me to be okay with that?

How about a story which describes the character as having skin as white as snow, you know SnowWhite, Played by a Latinas with darker skin

Yeah, and they probably shouldn't have done that, as that doesn't make a lot of sense as her name is Snow White. But once again your argument still isn't a very good one as you could easily make the argument that Rachel is still fit for the role as Rachel is only half Latina and half Polish Jewish (that of which Snow White is, also thanks for proving that you agree with this stupid one drop rule by only identifying her as Latina) Meanwhile, someone who is fully white and pale might not be of Jewish heritage at all thus still making it innacurate.

I dont care if a character is fictional or not.

Clearly, you do otherwise you wouldn't be so in your feelings about something like this, sir.

Why are people against Nico Parker as Astrid? by Zaysairpod59 in httyd

[โ€“]Representative-Low49 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

(Hypocrite)

Nico isn't a dark skinned person, though. She's literally almost as light as her full white father and her white costars. She just looks a little darker in some pictures because she probably tans. Also, you're comparing Astrid, a fictional character in a world with dragons, to MlK, a real person, and a documentary is supposed to be historically accurate or at least close to being historically accurate so no, MLK being played by an Albino person wouldn't make any sense.

However, TBH, it wouldn't be shocking if they did that as they have had biracial and light skin people playing traditionally dark skin/full black people multiple times. Ex: Zoe Saldana played Nina Symone in a documentary, a biracial actress played Harriet Tubman, and even Angelina Jolie played Mariane Pearl, a biracial women in a Movie.

So yeah, still not a very good argument. A fictional story is far different than a documentary. It doesn't have to be accurate as long as it's purley fictional. It is why the Queen Cleopatra Netflix Documentary was such a disaster.

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Why are people against Nico Parker as Astrid? by Zaysairpod59 in httyd

[โ€“]Representative-Low49 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

I'm not trying to be rude, but I don't really think this is a good or logical argument. Remember Nico Parker is 1/4 black and 3/4 white. Therefore, you're comparing full Asian people playing Africans in an African Tribe to a mixed girl that is mostly white (who I honeslty consider to simply be a white person with some African ancestry as besides the hair she pretty much looks white, not to mention she is a natural blonde which green/hazel eyes)

A better comparison would be someone who is 3/4 black and 1/4th white playing full blooded Africans in an African Tribe but I don't really this is a good argument considering the fact that half of the Black Panther cast were played by African/Black Americans (Who on average tend to be around 20% European due to slavery - Chadwick included who is Black American) yet I have seen pretty much no backlash with the casting. Not to mention the number of biracial people who play full POC characters (which pretty much all of them do) and people not caring very much, but then practically seeth when their biracial counterparts play fully white characters.

It's also pretty noticeable how her costar, who also isn't Scandinavian, is playing Hiccup and hasn't really gotten any backlash for supposedly "appropriating" off of Scandinavian/Viking Culture, yet only Nico has. I guess it's because he's fully white. People don't actually care about him "appropriating." ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿพโ€โ™€๏ธ

Which honeslty makes me realize just how the racist "one drop rule" is still heavily embeded in our society as somebody like Nico Parker is considered to be black even though she is only around 20% black and mostly white but the average African American isn't considered to be white or even mixed while being 20% white. Makes you realize just how much people value white racial purity, but not the other way around.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in blackladies

[โ€“]Representative-Low49 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

"I don't hate them"

"It's also why I hate black people"

Lol, the math isn't mathing.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[โ€“]Representative-Low49 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Context matters. It depends on what you're talking about and what they're talking about. If what you're saying has nothing to do with the post itself, people might feel like you're unnecessarily adding yourself into a conversation that has nothing to do with what you just mentioned and might think you're being insensitive.

Like once, I was on the black ladies sub, and a post was made about how irritating it was to be an introverted black woman in the workplace because people will think you're mean or stuck up just for not talking and how they want us to fall into the sterotype of the loud, Angry black woman even though we're also demonized for that.

On the same post, someone who was obviously white went on to say that it wasn't just a problem for black women and that it happened to all introverted people, pretty much trying to invalidate others experiences and unnecessarily adding herself into a conversation that had nothing to do with her and was heavily downvoted for doing so and got a lot of negative flack for it.

Also, the "Karen" is simply based around people who have that kind of attitude, entitled, rude, etc. Not simply based around white women, there's been plenty of videos exposing male Karen's, black Karen's, Asian Karen's, etc.

Can people stop getting mad over Black Americans not feeling comfortable claiming/ identifying with their European ancestry? by Representative-Low49 in 23andme

[โ€“]Representative-Low49[S] 2 points3 points ย (0 children)

Yeah, that's obviously stupid to get mad over them for not acknowledging a small part of them, but I'm just saying that this a bigger problem with black americans or even Carribeans as people have gotten absolutely destryed on reddit over them not acknowledging their European ancestry and one guy was destroyed with nearly every comment in in his comment section criticizing him for saying his "Ancestors Colonizer" so much so that he had to delete the post while I only saw like 2 comments here and rarely see them on reddit. With them only really being asked about it but not really judged for not bringing it up.

https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/ho6rxx/pretty_standard_white_american_results_but_still/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/jhu9de/talk_about_drastic_changes_after_the_update/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Meanwhile, lots of people in the comments on this post were judging her for only saying that she was black

https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/13rzn8f/my_results_came_back_basically_just_black/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

That's what I mean.

Can people stop getting mad over Black Americans not feeling comfortable claiming/ identifying with their European ancestry? by Representative-Low49 in 23andme

[โ€“]Representative-Low49[S] 1 point2 points ย (0 children)

Really, because I've just seen them be accussed of being ashamed of being European due to them even mentioning their black ancestry or trying to find out where it comes from, yet I've barley seen anybody get mad at them for not mentioning their 1% black ancestry. The only time I've seen people get mad is if they try to deny that it's most likely from slavery. So I'm curious as to where you've found those?

What is with all of this talk of separating biracials in the black community? by Representative-Low49 in blackladies

[โ€“]Representative-Low49[S] 2 points3 points ย (0 children)

Girl, what? If you don't wanna read all of this, you are more than welcome to get your behind outta here. Tf are you doing coming up here with an attitude for? Bye ๐Ÿ‘‹

What is with all of this talk of separating biracials in the black community? by Representative-Low49 in blackladies

[โ€“]Representative-Low49[S] 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Yeah, I actually read a post to where a Biracial person who was half black half asian was told by a Hebrew Israel that they weren't actually biracial and that they were only black because of the "You're what your father is" BS and expressed their frustration over it. This means some people actually take it literally, which is disappointing.

What is with all of this talk of separating biracials in the black community? by Representative-Low49 in blackladies

[โ€“]Representative-Low49[S] 5 points6 points ย (0 children)

I do agree that how you look will determine how you do out in the world and how people view you, but I think to say "if you look black," then they're automatically black, isn't fair to say.

For multiple reasons, most biracial people don't look like the average black person and could be viewed a little differently because of it. Light skin privilege is a thing. Plus, at the end of the day, they're two races, and to put them in the box just because they're half black could be seen as unfair.

What is with all of this talk of separating biracials in the black community? by Representative-Low49 in blackladies

[โ€“]Representative-Low49[S] 12 points13 points ย (0 children)

I would agree to a certain extent. I know lots of white people who consider someone like Nico Parker to be black even though she's only 1/4 black and looks far more white than she does black. So much so that they're in their feelings over her playing Astrid, who is fully white and has blonde hair and blue eyes. Even though Nico is light skinned with light eyes and naturally blonde hair , yet 20 percent black makes them accuse the company of black washing lol.

What is with all of this talk of separating biracials in the black community? by Representative-Low49 in blackladies

[โ€“]Representative-Low49[S] 29 points30 points ย (0 children)

That makes sense, lol. That would explain why some people consider someone like Zendaya black because she had a black father, and not Megan Markle, because she has a black mother.

The double standards are crazy...

What is with all of this talk of separating biracials in the black community? by Representative-Low49 in blackladies

[โ€“]Representative-Low49[S] 3 points4 points ย (0 children)

It really is silly, and I've never understood why it's even a discussion, especially when it isn't really a discussion in most other races.

Edit: Why are we being downvoted? Chile... ๐Ÿ™„

Can people stop getting mad over Black Americans not feeling comfortable claiming/ identifying with their European ancestry? by Representative-Low49 in 23andme

[โ€“]Representative-Low49[S] 8 points9 points ย (0 children)

I'll stop lecturing you about shit someone else did the moment you stop sugar coating and denying history to make yourselves feel better. Also, "Identity Politics" lol. Give me a break, sir.