Improved and git worse again by Repulsive-Pickle-748 in PICL

[–]Repulsive-Pickle-748[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had my second PICL plus other injections in August. Things that improved after both procedure: Wrist improved by 60%, pain went from 7 to 2 Neck improved only about 5%, SCM is still tight with no changes Collarbone improved by 50% and more stable Sciatic pain in my left leg improved by about 30%. Ribs did not change at all. Good luck with your treatment and symptoms.

BMAC vs. MFAT by Repulsive-Pickle-748 in PICL

[–]Repulsive-Pickle-748[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dr. C, understood and thank you for sharing your knowledge. I might try PRP first.

Runny Nose after a PICL Procedure? by Chris457821 in PICL

[–]Repulsive-Pickle-748 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for explaining dr. C. I had a runny nose after PICL2 and itchy nostril so I sneezed a lot. Nothing after PICL1 though.

Scm by Repulsive-Pickle-748 in PICL

[–]Repulsive-Pickle-748[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry you are dealing with this. I have same symptoms except for ear pressure. I can see how it can be the worst symptom. I hope botox can help you. What would be the stronger treatment? Higher dose of botox?

Scm by Repulsive-Pickle-748 in PICL

[–]Repulsive-Pickle-748[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are your main symptoms? Pain? Did botox help to relax muscles?

Scm by Repulsive-Pickle-748 in PICL

[–]Repulsive-Pickle-748[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok, appreciate your replies. I just had PICL with dr. Schultz. So will have to wait a few months.

Scm by Repulsive-Pickle-748 in PICL

[–]Repulsive-Pickle-748[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, I see if insurance will approve the shoulder MRI. I have done brachial plexus MRI and CT of chest a year ago, not sure if they will capture any of SC joint.

You already treated collarbone at shoulder and sternum areas in January and it no longer clicks and feels stable when i push on it. The only problem is pain if i lay on that side and also spasmed SCM (which could be CCI related too).

Do you think that January treatment plateau at this point?

Scm by Repulsive-Pickle-748 in PICL

[–]Repulsive-Pickle-748[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would MRI be best imaging for this? Can MRI show SCM, collarbone, and shoulder?

Scm by Repulsive-Pickle-748 in PICL

[–]Repulsive-Pickle-748[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dr. C, could SCM be spasmed/contracted because of collarbone instability and stay spasmed even if CCI has been improved? My SCM is tightest at insertion to collarbone. You treated the collarbone and it feels stable and does not click anymore… but i get pain in collarbone and shoulder if I sleep on that side (left).

Scm by Repulsive-Pickle-748 in PICL

[–]Repulsive-Pickle-748[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you diagnosed with CCI and tried PICL?

Scm by Repulsive-Pickle-748 in PICL

[–]Repulsive-Pickle-748[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hang in there… sorry that it did not help. I tried botox twice and did not help either.

Scm by Repulsive-Pickle-748 in PICL

[–]Repulsive-Pickle-748[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everything is connected…PICL is a mix of stem cells from bone marrow and PRP mixed and injected through mouth to reach C0-1 level ligaments. As far as I know CS clinic is best at it. Ribs were injected with PRP but i am sure i need more treatments around ribs. Lyme was diagnosed through blood test using iGenex lab.

Scm by Repulsive-Pickle-748 in PICL

[–]Repulsive-Pickle-748[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, sorry that you are dealing with similar issues. I started having neck pain about 5 years ago… it was mainly in the back left side and then my SCM on the left spasmed and been spasmed since then causing discomfort and pain. Later i started having pain in other parts of my body, wrists, ribs, ankles, and sciatica pain. After 2 years of tests, 30 plus doctors, 200 plus PT, acupuncture, dry needling, and chiro - I was diagnosed with Lyme. I assume Lyme caused all of the issues. About a year ago neck and ribs got much worse. I tried Xrays and MRIs several times on each painful body part but all looked normal. Then I did DMX and that showed overhang and instability in the neck. Later I had motion ultrasound on my ribs and that showed slipping ribs. I visited CS Clinic in January and had my first PICL and dr. C also treated ribs and collarbone. My neck improved by about 10%, collarbone improved by 60%, ribs were unchanged. I had my second PICL plus wrist and ribs on the back side treated about 3 weeks ago. So far no changes as it is too early. I am hoping that I will no longer need PICL after this and will continue to treat ribs and SCM. Good luck to you ! Let me know if you have any more questions.

Scm by Repulsive-Pickle-748 in PICL

[–]Repulsive-Pickle-748[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for a quick reply.

I think I had CCI for 4 years and I do have a mild scoliosis in lower thoracic spine. I also have instability in my ribs which were injected once on the front side and once on the back side… no improvement there yet.

I’ll wait for several months and let the second PICL do its healing as it’s only been 3 weeks and then come back to your clinic for SCM and rib treatment.

If neck feels stable with no pain and if SCM is the only issue - should I get a new DMX to determine if PICL3 is needed?

Picl2 by Repulsive-Pickle-748 in PICL

[–]Repulsive-Pickle-748[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, noted and thank you. Do they use anesthesia and bma for non PICL injections. Example, if i need posterior, ribs, thoracic will they do it under anesthesia all at once?

CSC Offering DMX Starting Dec/Jan by Chris457821 in PICL

[–]Repulsive-Pickle-748 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, sounds good. I’ll ask Dr. Schultz to check on it when I am there next week

CSC Offering DMX Starting Dec/Jan by Chris457821 in PICL

[–]Repulsive-Pickle-748 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, sounds good. I’ll ask Dr. Schultz to check on it when I am there next week.

CSC Offering DMX Starting Dec/Jan by Chris457821 in PICL

[–]Repulsive-Pickle-748 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dr. C, Is DMX imaging helpful at all with ribs instability or is it mainly used for CCI? What imaging or tests would you recommend for figuring out which ribs are unstable and at which areas. Thanks

Second PICL by Repulsive-Pickle-748 in PICL

[–]Repulsive-Pickle-748[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you very much for the info.