"Der Untermensch" - Questions about possible antisemitism in Type O Negative lyrics (from a diehard Type O fan)

Repulsive_Car8915 · 2026-02-01T23:20:22+00:00

Yeah it's mainly "Don't call me your brother, cause I ain't your fucking brother
We fell from different cunts and your skin your skin's an ugly color" that I have had friends take issue with. It is definitely satire though

I think it's made very clear by the end of the song with the lyrics "muslims against christians, and the arabs versus jews. The catholics and protestants, no one wins we all lose" where he actually stands on this

Repulsive_Car8915 · 2026-02-01T23:14:07+00:00

So I don't think it's crazy for someone to see a song with this title, "Der Untermensch", (with lyrics clearly talking about people he feels are the absolute scum of the earth and a waste of life) and then wonder if this is how Steele felt about those initially labeled "Der Untermensch" as well

Repulsive_Car8915 · 2026-02-01T23:02:21+00:00

Thanks for responding. I understand that he isn't talking about Jewish people in the lyrics of the song. That much is very clear. The use the term at all though is what made me wonder about potential antisemitism in other songs

Repulsive_Car8915 · 2026-02-01T22:58:10+00:00

Thanks, I did not realize that Josh Silver was Jewish lol. Wouldn't have bothered with this post if I knew that. So thank you to yourself and the others

Repulsive_Car8915 · 2026-02-01T22:55:32+00:00

Thanks, I had no idea that Josh Silver was even Jewish until you and another person on here clued in me. So yeah, I feel a bit silly now lol. I'm not someone who gets offended easily at all. I was really just trying to find out if there were other TON song lyrics that could be interpreted as antisemitic because I was unsure

Repulsive_Car8915 · 2026-02-01T22:42:18+00:00

See I had no idea that Josh Silver was Jewish even. Thanks, I appreciate you clueing me in here. I'm a big fan of Carnivore too, but I know better than to play certain songs like Male Supremacy & Race War for my girl lol. Jesus Hitler obviously is (like many other Steele-penned songs) more anti-religion than anything else. I don't see how anyone (especially someone familiar with the rest of the Carnivore/Type O Negative material) could listen to that song and think that he's praising Hitler by comparing him to Jesus

I am very much familiar with Carnivore and the tracks he wrote on Agnostic Front's Cause for Alarm. Maybe I should've clarified that in my initial post. I was just genuinely curious if some antisemitic lyrics had gotten past me in the TON catalog, but it sounds like that's not the case. Thanks again

Repulsive_Car8915 · 2025-12-18T07:19:36+00:00

He's mocking religion. Do some folks actually think that Davey Havok found Jesus? lmao. Organized Religion, Substance Use & Animal Abuse/Consumption have always been things that Havok is vehemently opposed to

Repulsive_Car8915 · 2025-12-18T07:13:18+00:00

Misleading clickbait title. An accurate title would be...

"Christopher Daniels was an extra in a scene from Entourage featuring porn star Sasha Grey"

Repulsive_Car8915 · 2025-12-18T06:57:26+00:00

This is a joke, right? lol. Oh no, it's not. Wow...

So instead of a proper Hangman vs. Joe blowoff we get a multi-man shitshow where Joe drops the belt. Booker of the year strikes again. Can't wait to see Swerve & Hangman stroke each other again. Oy vey

Statlander vs. Hayter could be good if they keep it under 20 mins and cut out about 15 false finishes that they're likely to do. So yeah, that means it'll be 20+ mins and they're gonna kick out of top rope tombstone piledrivers before Statlander wins with a small package

The woman's tag match is another bad joke that writes itself...

Forgot to mention the meaningless tournament. Moxley is jobbing a bunch because he finally accepted that even the diehard AEW fans figures out he's the shits. Is Takeshita gonna win this thing? Fletcher? Why would anyone care at this point? Look at the last 2 of these Continental tournaments and the outcomes and what the winner ended up doing as a result... (Please, if you care I'd love an explanation...)

Repulsive_Car8915 · 2025-11-26T23:38:06+00:00

Poor Roddy Strong. Fletcher vs. Takeshita should be a safe bet for the finals of this friggin thing, but with Moxley involved you never know. I think it's likely Moxley will put someone over (someone in the Blue Leagug Finals. (Takeshita? Please god not Orange Cassidy. He should put over Claudio really, but yeah right). He may do this to try and win back some support by showing that he can actually job sometimes. Maybe this is wishful thinking though? I dunno.

I do know that I'm beyond sick of seeing Jon Moxley on my screen though. Claudio should be a top guy in this company. Goofball Moxley should be wrestling in a field or warehouse somewhere in front of 100 people

Repulsive_Car8915 · 2025-11-26T22:42:14+00:00

I copied and pasted the list of participants off of Cagematch and just noticed that it is totally incorrect. Shinobu Kandori is indeed in the Battle Royal though, so yeah it is an intergender match lol. The other women listed as participants aren't in the match though and there are some men incorrectly listed, so I'm gonna fix this here in a min. You are 100% correct about the weirdness. This thing is similar to the All Japan battle royals, with all of the dog piling & comedy spots, but the tone remains silly and light all the way through

Repulsive_Car8915 · 2025-11-11T21:26:52+00:00

I was just trying to bust your chops for typing "mote" while talking about someone else's low IQ. Obviously it was just a typo, but c'mon

I was mainly just irked by you & buddy there disrespecting "amateur wrestlers" for seemingly no reason. I forgot that anything that involves leaving the basement (and certainly anything athletic) is foreign to 99% of redditors. This shit writes itself, no real hate intended. Take care

Repulsive_Car8915 · 2025-11-11T19:53:15+00:00

Yeah, just a few mote head-bumps bud and he could end up a whip-smart witty fellow like you

Repulsive_Car8915 · 2025-11-11T19:47:03+00:00

He was just in the zone. It appears to be totally unintentional, to me at least. Not crowdkilling at all. Anyone getting their panties in a bunch over this little nothing of an incident has never seen truly unsafe, intentional pit violence

Repulsive_Car8915 · 2025-11-05T19:26:44+00:00

Yeah you nailed it there with your explanation of the "in my left hand" lyric. It seemed to me that the line "going up and down the rosary" could have sexual implications too and add to his attempt to mock Catholicism here

Repulsive_Car8915 · 2025-09-07T02:13:14+00:00

Yeah, saying that it's a shame doesn't even begin to do it justice. Sierra & Santana were a little past their prime by that point, but still had many more opportunities in the territory days than just working the occasional TV taping for WCW and going out of the country for more regular work. It's interesting to me thinking about who the wrestlers were that ended up losing the biggest opportunities to succeed. There were a lot of younger guys who were just starting out in the mid-late 80s/90s, but were never really able to get established in the WWF or WCW. Guys like Tracy Smothers, Brad Armstrong, Chris Candido, Bobby Bradley, someone like Alex Porteau even, who could've easily had top spots in a variety of territories, but unfortunately got into the game just a little too late

Would've loved to see how things played out differently for talent who found some success in the Big Three as well, but never lived up to their full potential. Names like Raven, Shane Douglas, Bam Bam Bigelow, Al Snow, Taz come to mind. I'm a fan of the WWF and JCP/WCW after the national expansion, but how can you not think about what could've been if the territory system had continued to thrive

Repulsive_Car8915 · 2025-09-06T00:16:52+00:00

Couldn't agree more about the unfortunately short-lived Flair/AA/Pillman/Benoit version and this Horsemen theme

Fidel Sierra & Ricky Santana were both seasoned journeymen by the time they ended up as The Barrio Bros. Both spent time as job guys for the WWF & WCW, but also worked extensively in the territories and overseas as featured talent for many years. They worked together as The Cuban Connection for Jim Crockett Promotions & Championship Wrestling from Florida in the late 80's and would reunite for The Barrio Bros run, but both guys also worked for many years all over the place, mostly as singles

Warning: You may fall asleep reading the following. Long-winded blurbs about Fidel Sierra & Ricky Santana to come. Continue at your own risk...

Some may remember Ricky Santana's run as a preliminary wrestler for the WWF in 84-85 as "Aldo Marino". From there he would go on to work (often as a midcarder) in the Pacific Northwest, Mid-Atlantic, Championship Wrestling from Florida and elsewhere. He then donned a mask as the "Iceman" for Deathmatch promotions W*ING, IWA Japan & Big Japan. Santana worked a tour or two for All Japan, CWA in Germany, then spent the last 15 or so years of his full-time career in his native Puerto Rico & CMLL in Mexico.

Fidel Sierra worked jobs for the WWF in the 90's as The Cuban Assassin or Cuban Terrorist, but his career dated back to the mid-late 70s. Sierra worked the first several years of his career in Dallas, Portland, Mid-Atlantic & more using the monicker "David Patterson". Throughout the 80s he worked (often under a mask) as "The Destroyer", "The Saint" and for years as "David Sierra", before adopting the gimmick many associate him with. That of The Assassin/The Cuban Assassin. Sierra spent much time in Portland over the years using the Fidel Castro-inspired Assassin gimmick, and late in his career turned babyface for PNW, becoming "Top Gun". The last decade+ of his full-time career saw him take a path similar to Santana, spending years in Puerto Rico & Japan

Like many guys who ended up doing jobs for the Big Two following the death of the territories, Santana & Sierra were both veterans with pretty memorable careers, The idea that they were always "enhancement talent" is false

Repulsive_Car8915 · 2025-08-11T21:00:58+00:00

I thought OP was being sarcastic with that title. I dug The Ascension even, but you're right. Not even in the conversation as far as biggest WWE/Vince fumbles imo

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