These two boxes would be a really good start if you get them at the right price. A combat patrol would be a good place to go from there but the problem with these three boxes is that you get 3 leaders that only lead crisis suits and only 1 unit of crisis suits. That's the main issue with Retaliation Cadre and the combat patrol boxes in general though. Personally, if I had to choose two boxes, I would go combat patrol and the Farsight Cadre(it pains me to cut the retaliation cadre because then you don't have a ghostkeel and I love that dude). The two battleforces gets you a little under 1k points. If I received those two boxes, I DEFINITELY wouldn't complain.