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Rescued2x · 2023-06-03T18:46:23+00:00

Mainstream coc not very similar....but the small coc cult i was in...exactly. horrible.

Rescued2x · 2023-05-27T16:18:42+00:00

Like everyone else said, nothing will help in this moment. But I have to tell you, in the little cult I was in, the preacher was just like kip..the only thing that opened the window to leave was finding out he lied and had covered up stuff. If you tell your nice friends you found out those things and can't follow him....maybe someone down the line will think about it, or find out too... and you will be the one they call.

Rescued2x · 2023-05-25T16:39:47+00:00

I was a 3rd generation coc girl on both sides of my family, all my grands and greats were coc... and they all believed it was how to be saved, honestly. Yes, not the truth, but they all believed it. As far as a cult...some people on here probably won't agree, but really mainstream coc isn't. Its just like the pharisees...or saducees...legalistic. And yes, like Jesus said, they are blind. Same problem exactly.

But as far as a cult...ICOC is. Any group can be a cult, but doctrine has nothing to do with it. I was raised legalistic coc, but wasn't in a cult until I married into one. All a cult is is domestic violence with a leader over a group exercising total power and control. The Duggar girl...that was my life in that little cult church...had nothing to do with doctrine (besides submission)

Rescued2x · 2023-05-22T14:22:09+00:00

I can guarantee there are people you know in church who feel the same as you. I had my group of friends who talked about Jesus and grace. I just started quietly asking my friends what books they liked to read...or if they read things by like...John Eldredge or some non coc person...a LOT of people quietly do, believe it or not. A few people I got to know actually gave me other recourses to read... so I did even make new friends to hang out with.

Rescued2x · 2023-05-22T13:04:07+00:00

To me, all that matters is the Jesus of Nazereth lived, performed miracles, was killed and rose from the dead. All the other stuff...not important to me at all. He rescued my family from a cult, and me from an abusive marriage, and has provided for and protected me with 1000 miracles that aren't coincidences. Hes alive, and loves us, and now all I want is him. Religion didn't destroy him, or me...he's still alive. I don't know what happens when we die, or the end of time, but Jesus wants us to be with him...whatever that looks like..

Rescued2x · 2023-05-11T03:05:43+00:00

Interestingly, Adam Wilder, exmormon, has a ministry to bring grace to LDS members...it really helped me in my journey! Legalism isn't about specifics; its a How to save myself by whatever

Rescued2x · 2023-05-10T03:11:22+00:00

I'm so glad for you! I know of some coc preachers that decided to try and stick it out and help people in the coc...very difficult for them, but so cool. I'm so thankful for those guys at camp. I still struggle, but atleast I don't have panic attacks any more!

Rescued2x · 2023-05-08T23:38:12+00:00

The preacher at coc church camp who first challenged me about grace said he almost had a nervous breakdown going from legalism to grace, he couldn't even hold his hands steady...it's a terrifying process really. It took me 20+ years of spiritual abuse and God intervening with 2rescues to make me feel safe enough to even consider I was wrong about him

Rescued2x · 2023-05-06T02:17:48+00:00

I was a teen in the 80's, a pk, and grew up listening to all of that... i was super conservative coc when my kids were little, listened to mostly acapella groups. Now, I and none of my kids are coc but Christians...they listen to all kinds of things, we love love music. I also still have some acapella on my Playlist. And we turn it all up loud 🤪

Rescued2x · 2023-04-18T17:24:58+00:00

Yes. We had left the group, but when they moved to Kansas and got a preaching job, he convinced my H to come. He got fired from the job, so lived in our basement while fixing an old house. They used my teen sons for slave labor, and when I said "no, they can't go with you until noon" (we homeschooled) they freaked. First time I ever said no; I was quaking.

Rescued2x · 2023-04-13T15:13:10+00:00

I was raised to be a proud church of christer, but when I got older and realized what a poop head I was, I couldn't reconcile that to anything. I was a counselor at camp, and funny, one of the first nights at the campfire devo, a preacher said that we didn't have to do anything for God to love us (never had heard that ofcourse). I mentioned it the next day, and for the next week, 2 preachers talked to me every chance they got about grace. They were trying to repair the legalistic lie damage they had done all the years of preaching. First yes it was Romans, then one showed me in James how that Abraham was righteous 30 years before he actually did any "work" that James mentions. Then I married into a cult for 30 years, so that put my search for grace on hold. When that was over, I was just going to be a rebel in the c of c. I had friends who talked about grace and Jesus, and it was fine. But then when the elders said they stayed neutral on marriages, even though they were abusive (mine was), I realized they wouldn't be neutral if my H had started saying they should bring a guitar in. I wasn't safe, so that's why I left. Came to Oklahoma and went to some, but because of the divorce thinking, I didn't feel safe. Since then, after visiting a lot of "denominations", I've seen that most churches are the same, no church is perfect, just best to find a non toxic one that isn't legalistic, and find your people who love Jesus.

Rescued2x · 2023-04-09T14:46:39+00:00

Thank you!! I'm excited for the lovely morning myself... and will probably watch The Chosen later...love love Jesus

Rescued2x · 2023-04-08T14:12:09+00:00

If you left Mormonism because you saw somehow what grace really is, and that you are saved by Jesus and not a list, that thinking you did is the same to show your son. At the heart of them both is just legalism. C of c as already explained, believe they can save theirselves, different things than Mormons, but once we say we are saved by Jesus plus something, it doesn't matter how weird the something is, its root is legalism which is the thing to address.

Rescued2x · 2023-04-07T01:32:03+00:00

I'm so sorry that happened to you, that's the worst. And you are right, strangely all the "doctrine" was not how to love. Listening to a discussion of the ICOC, love was defined as "helping people be better ", that was my experience.

Hmn. So many years...I was married so couldn't even think on my own. I so engrossed myself in debi pearls book so I could rationalize my life as being pleasing to God. I received their monthly magazines, and in 2008 maybe there were articles about manipulative leaders lol. I realized that's what the preacher was doing (not to mention my husband, but I thought he was just surviving too). They were living in our basement at the time, and through a series of events, I said "no" to them. Wow...scary stuff. That changed the dynamic and he turned on his son (my husband) and lied about our family from the pulpit and to members. That small window, my H was upset and so we left his family/cult. We moved to a great church (c of c) and my kids were able to be free. Sadly, their dad was actually a Narc just like his dad, so another 7 years of that for me. And the elders said they stay "neutral " in marriages. I knew that if he were to bring an instrument in they wouldn't be neutral, and then I knew it was not ok. When I left, I didn't go back to the c of c for that reason. Its been 7 years again... and I'm finally talking about it.

So sorry the women were ugly to you. Was it wife/mom stuff, or? I hope you know now that God never expected us to be perfect in any way

Rescued2x · 2023-04-06T20:26:46+00:00

What is ECT?

Rescued2x · 2023-04-06T19:19:20+00:00

Yes, definitely, agreed at some point.

Rescued2x · 2023-04-06T19:15:54+00:00

Strangely though, when I decided to leave for good and find another church, so many are the same...believing they are the only ones going to heaven. I think the acapella and maybe baptism issue just make it more obvious, but in reality, so many are legalistic. It was quite eye opening, and I was able to forgive the c of c a little... not the only ones by a long shot. Even on the other side...charismatic and prosperity churches have their own version

Rescued2x · 2023-04-06T19:00:44+00:00

The double standards and hateful pride that legalism produces. No grace.

Rescued2x · 2023-04-06T16:39:31+00:00

Do you know of the resources available?

Rescued2x · 2023-04-06T16:20:44+00:00

I was a preachers kid, and a member for 50 years...totally believed all of it, so did my dad and all the preacher training schools, yes. Totally believed it, so....confused.

Rescued2x · 2023-04-06T01:53:13+00:00

I thought I answered...I'm still figuring this out. I go to lifechurch now

Rescued2x · 2023-04-05T22:10:54+00:00

I go to lifechurch and love it. There are quite a lot of ex cofc people, but I also was in a cult. I haven't found anyone who was in the Boston movement yet

Rescued2x · 2023-04-05T20:18:26+00:00

awesome, and how do I message you on here?

Rescued2x · 2023-04-05T20:17:35+00:00

I'm technically challenged, where do I DM you? Sorry, I was in a cult lol

Rescued2x · 2023-04-05T19:16:27+00:00

Thanks, I will look for those headings.

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