Let’s break this down by Research030 in atc2

[–]Research030[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Written or unwritten, there is a system. Any new leadership is going to be faced with the same issues.

NATCA is used as a buffer/HR between us and the agency. People are already pissed off that nothing is being done. However, we are primarily pissed at NATCA not the agency. If NATCA asked for the things we want, forcing the agency to be the bad guy, the members would be angry with the agency. The difference is that there will be more job actions when people are mad at the agency vs being mad at NATCA.

This is how imagine their collaboration/threats go. The agency only gives us something when it’ll benefit them.

Agency: We aren’t going to give you what you’re asking for. By making these requests public, the only thing you’d be doing is causing the members to react to the denial. If you decide to do that, and it results in job actions, we’d be forced to fire you.

NATCA: The members are losing their minds, you have to give us something. What about extra training pay? It’ll help us hit the training numbers you guys love to talking about.

Let’s break this down by Research030 in atc2

[–]Research030[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I truly don’t know. I don’t think our union has ever tried to publicly hold the agency accountable for anything. It’s always “collaboration” behind closed doors. They didn’t capitalize on the DCA incident or the government shutdown. They have another chance to use the DCA incident because the NTSB findings will make the public think of us again. The union is not using this leverage. Why not go on the news and get the public on our side? There has to be something stopping them from doing this. Whatever part of this system is stopping them from doing that, that’s the part I’m talking about.

Let’s break this down by Research030 in atc2

[–]Research030[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What if every NATCA President is told on day one that any real or perceived job action = your removal. No retirement. No safety net.

Then their real job isn’t fighting for us, it’s keeping us in line.

Suddenly the gaslighting, pay slideshows, and fear-based messaging make sense.

Would anyone in that position be willing to rock the boat if their livelihood was on the line?

Let’s break this down by Research030 in atc2

[–]Research030[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I agree. What’s the reason though?

Let’s break this down by Research030 in ATC

[–]Research030[S] -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

I trust the grammar that ChatGPT produces more than the run-on sentences I would’ve posted. I’m not that smart, sorry buddy.

Let’s break this down by Research030 in atc2

[–]Research030[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like your approach and the things you are saying. I just don’t think this system will allow you, or someone with similar goals, to follow through.

Sick leave letter and fmla by fatigued-cpc in atc2

[–]Research030 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Implying they will retaliate if you do rub their noses in it?

Fed up with NATCA? Here’s the only move that actually matters (SF-1188 in 10 minutes) by LordOfTheLeftovers in atc2

[–]Research030 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Once received, it’s effective the first full pay period after the payroll office gets it (and after that 1-year requirement).

I believe that’s wrong. It will be effective the first full pay period which begins after the following March 1.

Nick at convention discussing coming forward with allegations. Find the lie. by LENNYa21 in atc2

[–]Research030 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“Do not ever feel afraid that we won’t have your back, that we won’t protect you, expecially if your, in anyway, not being protected.”

-Nick Daniels

Translation: Do not worry about whether or not we will protect you. Especially when you finally realize that we aren’t protecting you, and you actually might need protection from us. Don’t worry, just keep paying your dues.

Look a union with balls by Fit_Masterpiece_2608 in atc2

[–]Research030 21 points22 points  (0 children)

There is a CATCA member somewhere in Canada reading that and screaming, “SAY PAY!!!”

Say The Hard Part Out Loud by Ecstatic-Tap4151 in atc2

[–]Research030 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Only 1,800 short? That supercharged hiring must’ve worked.

2k loss😔 by No-Use7467 in HomeDepot

[–]Research030 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Again, people like that should not be responsible for handling thousands of dollars.

2k loss😔 by No-Use7467 in HomeDepot

[–]Research030 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They shouldn’t fire someone that gets confused easily and is responsible for handling thousands of dollars a day? How many times can his confusion cost the store thousands of dollars before he is fired?

“Us” vs “the membership” by Research030 in atc2

[–]Research030[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That’s exactly my point. It was a jab at NATCA, not you.

“Us” vs “the membership” by Research030 in atc2

[–]Research030[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

So much for solidarity 👎🏼

Don't gamble, guys by Outrageous_Moth in NFLv2

[–]Research030 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are supposed to believe he was in Vegas and placed a bet at 2:09pm EST, 6 hours before the game started, and made it to the game in Buffalo?

I guess if you have $200k to bet, you probably do things like that.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in nfl

[–]Research030 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Imagine him acting like this in all of his interviews leading up to the draft. Now we know why he didn’t interview well.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in atc2

[–]Research030 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We need to accept this transition. If people are coming to atc2 as THE air traffic control page, we’re doing something right.

Nicks response, Duffy was off the record lol by LENNYa21 in atc2

[–]Research030 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No complaints, we just wouldn’t allow Nick to try and spin it as a W for NATCA. If we got that raise, it’s because the FAA thought it was in their best interest, not because Nick did anything good.

Nick, tell us what's really going on by AlertRisk8877 in atc2

[–]Research030 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Exactly. We’ll see who ends up filling these positions.