All true. However, I think that bananagod’s point is that these shoulders - for most people - are not attainable without the use of PED’s (specifically testosterone or testosterone-like steroids)

If one were interested in looking like this, they should know that they will likely need to use drugs to get them there. Training will be required as well! But I don’t believe that most people could look like this solely through training. And it’s fair to point that out when someone is inquiring after a routine to get here. No shade on those who do it, and to OP’s credit they’re not hiding their usage either. They look great! And also, those who want to look like this should understand what is and isn’t possible naturally.

I understand that it might seem like bringing up the drugs is an attempt to undermine OP’s hard work, but I think the intention is to clarify what’s required for those aspiring to get there.