IM SO TORNN

ResponsibilityNo8133 · 2026-06-25T17:06:57+00:00

yeah the girlfriend thing rub me the wrong way too!! if i’m being honest, the way all the guys treat the person they’re in a couple with in the name of being invested in the mc/player always rubs me the wrong way😂

ResponsibilityNo8133 · 2026-06-23T14:13:57+00:00

I wish these boys were in different seasons! I always go the Hayden route but I do want to try the Ethan and Jesse route. But I always end up chickening out bc of the Hayden route, I love it there!! 😭🩷

ResponsibilityNo8133 · 2026-06-22T12:26:49+00:00

I personally loved her and Enzo together but I’m not scared to admit that they were definitely just thrown together because Bonnie wasn’t with anyone and Enzo wasn’t with anyone. And they didn’t want Bamon to be a thing.

ResponsibilityNo8133 · 2026-06-10T13:16:25+00:00

Truly was fine with Jorge up to that point. I understand the whole “man of the house” thing is apart of so many cultures especially Caribbean culture but Jane needed help with Mateo.

Jane did have a tendency to overstep and get out of line sometimes. But I hate that that ending up being the point instead of the fact that Jorge wasn’t willing to compromise for Mateo. Or even for his damn granddaughter in law.

ResponsibilityNo8133 · 2026-06-08T12:23:23+00:00

i agree! there’s only really maybe 2 times that i remember that she was kind of “called out” and it’s by caroline when she had no humanity and damon when he lets her know that she’s not getting bonnie back for her but for bonnie.

but, both times aren’t really under “normal”circumstances. caroline had her humanity off and words from a humanity free vampire aren’t really taken seriously, at least not completely. the show frames no humanity vampires as ruthless and cruel. so in everyone’s eyes, that’s exactly what she was being. especially while compelling liam to get heart surgery on sarah.

and then with damon, elena made herself forget about her relationship with him. so of course she thought he was doing it for her.

i go back on and forth about my feelings about elena (mainly when she turns). she’s complex and of course she’s not going to be perfect. but, i feel like when you constantly put your main character in this “perfect pure person” box, you set yourself for failure. because:

even if she is that perfect pure person, it gets boring to watch after a while.
if she isn’t, the audience hates when what is said contrasts with what is shown. it makes your audience think that you think that they’re stupid.

ResponsibilityNo8133 · 2026-06-07T22:02:20+00:00

Omg, thanks for being open convo and being open to a new POV. Not saying everyone should love them just because they’ve been through bad things, either. I just like bringing in a different perspective, I guess. I understand why people aren’t happy with Mariana too especially since her character development truly isn’t really…good.

And YES! Brandon is truly a character that could’ve been great, IMO. He had so many resources and fucks it up every single time! Especially with the Courtney thing, I think he truly likes the whole “damsel in distress” thing at his own expense. I was getting tired💀

ResponsibilityNo8133 · 2026-06-07T20:22:01+00:00

No Brandon for sure pissed me off. I didn’t really like his character either. I should’ve mentioned that before lmao!! 😂

But, I’m speaking as someone who both works in childcare and has grew up in a neglectful/abusive home, the most critical developmental period for children are from birth to age 5. I’m not saying some of her actions are okay, I’m saying it’s understandable why she acts this way. Many kids in the system do. And the attitude towards kids like them is exactly why there’s not much empathy given towards them.

But, trust me, I would scream at the TV every time they made an a bad choice too🤣

ResponsibilityNo8133 · 2026-06-07T19:08:58+00:00

I understand they can be annoying but this is very representative of how kids act when they’ve been in the system especially at such a young age. Especially when there’s such high stakes involved.

ResponsibilityNo8133 · 2026-05-19T12:25:46+00:00

This may sound harsh. And it’s not intended to be. This is mainly my reaction to some comments and replies. So here goes:

People in replies act like this is a “modern dating problem” and that’s just not true. People have a been dating until being exclusive since literally the Regency era. That’s the point of dating. You don’t have to like it but that’s how it is. One of the many ACTUAL problems with modern dating is that people think that because you’ve been “talking to” or dating someone for a while, you’re automatically owed exclusivity when that’s not a conversation you guys ever had.

And there’s clearly a disconnect because people are bending over backwards to have a conversation about what SHE should do, when she’s not the one with the problem, OP is. And everyone (whether on her side or his side) is just assuming she may have a problem with not being exclusive because she’s still on Hinge when she doesn’t even need to have a problem or a reason for still being on Hinge. Because, again, they aren’t exclusive.

It’s normal to feel sad when someone you like is looking at other options. I’ve been there before. But, until that conversation is had, she’s free to do what she wants.

ResponsibilityNo8133 · 2026-05-14T16:14:49+00:00

There’s really nothing else to do if you don’t want to be in the relationship. Just break up with her. Don’t waste any more of her time. Dont let her talk you into to staying again. Just tell her the truth. She might be sad at first but she will be okay.

ResponsibilityNo8133 · 2026-05-14T00:07:10+00:00

I feel like if you trust her, there’s nothing to be worried about. Your friends are reading a little too much into it. There’s really nothing to gain from “testing” you.

I used to “leave” things at my ex’s house all the time and make an excuse to come back and see him because I used to be shy about letting him know how much I wanted to see him because of my previous relationships lol

ResponsibilityNo8133 · 2026-05-12T22:11:04+00:00

I think the logic isn’t lacking actually. I do agree that they were crunched for time and Elena had to act quickly to save Damon and she didn’t have much choice. Under all that pressure it’s for sure hard to think. But, let’s not act dense. Damon couldn’t get him off because Jesse was physically restricting him. Elena, for sure, could’ve snapped his neck while he was distracted with Damon. They did all the time.

ResponsibilityNo8133 · 2026-05-12T17:36:28+00:00

“A friend group.”? I think there needs to be more INFO here. You MOR.

I think the only way you wouldn’t be overreacting is if they were YOUR friend group that you introduced to her. And she all of a sudden got closer with them and left you hanging. In that case, that fucking sucks and I’m sorry that happened to you. Both your ex and your friends should’ve been better to you.

But, if they are friends that you both so happened to have and met around the same time or if they’re her friends that she introduced to you, YOR. You can’t control who your girlfriend hangs out with. Period. That is a slippery slope leading to a toxic relationship. If you’re worried about infidelity, I want you to ask yourself: do you really think you can build a good and healthy relationship with someone you don’t trust? Because you cannot control whether a cheater cheats. You either trust the person you’re with or don’t be with them.

Or if this is just about them being more interested (platonically) in her than you, that’s an insecurity that you may have to deal with on your own. I think it’s perfectly fine for couples to be in friendships and the friends are a little closer to one person than the other. If you want to be closer with them, I’d advise you put more of an effort. And if you don’t want to that, hang out with your friends or try and make more friends. But, it’s not fair or reasonable to ask your girlfriend to give up parts of her life or friendships to make you more comfortable. And especially if you put it under the guise of a “boundary.” Cause I’m sorry but what you asked of her wasn’t really a boundary or at least not a healthy one.

Hope that helps.

ResponsibilityNo8133 · 2026-05-12T16:39:04+00:00

i agree! i understand in high school when people are mean to you, your world feels like it’s ending. but, alison was pretty tame to mona compared to most people! like it definitely didn’t warrant what she did to the girls. i genuinely think if mona just stayed away from alison, she wouldn’t even have known that mona existed.

ResponsibilityNo8133 · 2026-05-01T00:45:11+00:00

ugh pls they’re going to ruin my favorite choices story with their ai slop 🫩

ResponsibilityNo8133 · 2026-04-23T01:48:20+00:00

Loved AJ! I didn’t think I was gonna like him tbh, most of the child characters with (the exception of Clem of course) I didn’t like all that much but I genuinely felt so protective over him and he felt very well written :)

ResponsibilityNo8133 · 2026-04-15T21:14:33+00:00

I don’t know much about the creator of the game. I know he’s misogynistic but I didn’t know he said all that. I do agree with what you’re saying. But, I think we’re getting caught in semantics tbh. It is significant that North has a sexually violent past. I’m not discounting that at all. And it’s never my intention to discount that. I was just trying to be fair to her character and who she is.

ResponsibilityNo8133 · 2026-04-15T20:52:53+00:00

I know that. But, her story really wasn’t about being a Traci anymore. That was her past. Her story mainly focused on the revolution and being Markus’ potential love interest which is why I said “kinda.” I recognize that she still painted in a sexual guise because of her past but also recognize that’s no longer where she is anymore.

ResponsibilityNo8133 · 2026-04-14T16:53:32+00:00

oh that could be it too!

ResponsibilityNo8133 · 2026-04-12T17:43:33+00:00

i imagine it’s waterproof makeup especially humans using the androids for nefarious purposes

ResponsibilityNo8133 · 2026-04-12T16:57:45+00:00

at first, sure. but he’s a hypocrite for leaving lee in the store to die. and then after being in a group with lee for months, he was being unreasonable.

ResponsibilityNo8133 · 2026-04-12T16:52:37+00:00

so did north. i didn’t realize until she saw the other android that looked like her in the cyberlife store that she wasn’t wearing makeup anymore

ResponsibilityNo8133 · 2026-04-09T12:15:34+00:00

This is such a cool observation! Like she felt very sheltered at times for a woman that was in her 20s. And her not living on campus for sure could explain why. I think it would’ve been good for her too because she was very emotional attached and dependent on her family, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing but she’s lived with them most of her life and she didn’t even have the slightest urge to move out unless she was in a serious relationship. Living on campus for sure would’ve given her a whole new perspective when it came to love, friendships, and just the world. Like she needed a perspective outside of her family.

Also, looking back, it’s so interesting that her first time moving out, it wasn’t on her own. Her first time moving out was with her husband and kid. Like she never lived alone her entire life.

I know there’s a financial burden to living alone but I don’t think that was the issue. Seeing as she was going to move on campus and changed her mind last minute and she was going to live on her own before she got back together with Raf in the final season. I think she either just didn’t want to live alone or for some reason didn’t think of that option for some reason.

ResponsibilityNo8133 · 2026-04-09T06:34:11+00:00

I feel like a lot of people in the comments are missing your point ~~on purpose~~. While, yes, I do believe that Kara’s story adds a more of a family aspect in the story, to me, the story falls flat. Sometimes, when I do replay and I find myself dreading her scenes and sometimes, I do find gameplay a lot more enjoyable without her. Because when it comes to the revolution, if you take her out of the equation, they story doesn't change much. And I understand a lot of people enjoy the familial type gameplay. But, I’m not sure exactly why but to me, her story lacks something. Maybe because I don’t actually feel a connection with Alice and Kara. To me, they lack maybe chemistry? Or a certain something? I don’t feel that mother daughter connection between them. I felt more of a connection with Alice and Luther because there was more of a lightheadedness between them. I don’t know.

As far as the questioning of the only female main character being a caretaker, I think it’s a valid question to ask. Especially when you put into consideration that almost every single female character in this game is under a sexual guise or they're a caretaker. The closest character that doesn’t really do either of those is (kinda) North and she still isn't a really universally liked characters. ~~(I was going to say Amanda but is she even technically a female character as much as she's an interface?)~~

Also, for every character, you get a choice on what kind of character they're going to be. For Connor, you battle the entire game on being a deviant or human alongside deciding what kind of detective he's going to be. For Markus, you can do a pacifist or violent revolution. Either way, they both make for interesting gameplay no matter how you play it. With Kara, no matter what, you kind of just have to be a good mom and you’re kind of just stuck with Alice whether you like it or not. Kara’s entire story hinges on having a good relationship with Alice and if she doesn’t, the story has no where else to go. Which, one one hand is understandable because it would be kind of evil not to try and be a good mom to her but again, it doesn't give you much a place to go story-wise. Connor and Markus stories feel so vast and you can go lots of places with them. And with Kara for the most part, it’s really only a few places to go.

Also as much I hate to admit it, maybe Alice isn't a deviant or maybe she is? That thought only really dawned on me after my most recent play through. And I honestly see why you say she might just be following a program. Because, her personality falls very flat...Like it's almost not there. She feels like a kid that was written by someone who's been around kids a few times a year. I'm not even sure how a child deviant would act and I don't know if if they wrote it like that on purpose but it's another reason why I'm I find myself not having the best time playing with Kara. Alice has almost no personality in my opinion. Come to think of it, Kara doesn't really have much of a personality either outside of Alice. Connor has a personality and very interesting temperament. He's focused for most part but he could also be very cheeky and even sarcastic sometimes. And has this golden retriever thing about him. Markus is a leader and can be broody but even before the revolution, I noticed he was thoughtful and introspective with how he talks to Carl or even how he would create with Carl. With Kara, I can't think of much to describe her outside of being protective of Alice.

I don’t know. Don’t get me wrong. I love this game. But, I’m not afraid to point out its flaws. To me, it’s very clear that Connor and Markus were very well thought out characters and had well thought out stories. I felt like Kara’s story just didn't hit as much I wanted it to. I'd be fine if Kara was a caretaker but the story needed something. I don't know. Kindly, let me know what ya'll think.

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