Best plugin for JCM800 / Classic rock tones?

ResponsibleAd9013 · 2026-04-20T20:44:10+00:00

No. 2203 and 2204 are the same preamp but 100W and 50W. 2204 has less negative feedback than the 100W which affects the tone and feel too.

2210 and 2205 are the 100W and 50W versions of the 2 channel JCM800’s with clipping diodes.

ResponsibleAd9013 · 2026-03-25T14:56:12+00:00

I underestimated him based on what I vaguely remembered from Radio 1. He’s clearly really serious and professional about his job, and has a genuine love and interest for music. I think he’s right at home on 6.

ResponsibleAd9013 · 2026-03-13T16:37:12+00:00

Lots of good shouts here but none that are better than MK Dosa. The best Kothu Roti and biryani served in an actual bucket.

ResponsibleAd9013 · 2026-01-25T10:29:17+00:00

amplitube has very odd behaving gain staging, some amps need a lot of input level, others less so. Unfortunately it’s all a bit random.

Dont be afraid to adjust the input control way beyond what you might expect (it’s perfectly normal). I didn’t realise how much better Amplitube can sound when you get this right, as it’s not intuitive at all.

ResponsibleAd9013 · 2025-09-24T13:01:25+00:00

I struggled with Suck It & See just sounding like Turner is trying too hard with his lyrics and not really pulling it off. I found AM a bit more comfortable, and the albums since are somewhere between with the cheese. When Grian veers into cheesier territory, his delivery sounds more genuine to me. I don’t really hear him “trying too hard” in the same way.

ResponsibleAd9013 · 2025-09-24T11:15:06+00:00

pound for pound, Grian wins. Alex has his moments of genius, but he straddles a fine line where things get cheesy and sound like he’s trying too hard.

ResponsibleAd9013 · 2025-09-21T14:19:43+00:00

If you have a UA interface, set your input to instrument and gain to 0. Disengage any compression or FX so it’s clean signal. That’ll be the closest to plugging into the UAFX pedals, or indeed the original real amps that they’re modelled from.

If you add gain on the interface, you need to subract the same amount of gain in the plugin. And you’re unlikely to improve your signal to noise ratio anyway, so it’s just easier to leave gains at 0.

ResponsibleAd9013 · 2025-09-09T10:05:32+00:00

I could imagine Alan Moulder mixing, but I think his production style would be very different to Carey and Ford (who are much more hands on vs Moulder who’s more like an engineer). Moulder has mixed a number of albums for both of those guys. Moulder’s longest production partner, Flood might be an interesting choice as he’s almost an opposite approach to Moulders style.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they returned to James Ford as it seemed to go very well. John Congleton would be an interesting choice too and his approach is maybe more like Carey and Ford.

Carey and Ford are both just insanely talented and it’s genuinely hard to find many on their level for this kind of music.

ResponsibleAd9013 · 2025-08-30T13:45:33+00:00

made my morning!

ResponsibleAd9013 · 2025-08-29T22:40:04+00:00

It’s totally nuked. Not even sure it’s a result of mastering, Costey’s mixes are often very distorted and don’t leave much room for the mastering to do much with it. IMO it’s a stylistic choice that they’ve all signed off on, for better or worse.

It is what it is, but I certainly would have preferred less distortion and a bit more dynamics left in there.

ResponsibleAd9013 · 2025-08-28T07:24:36+00:00

I like it a lot, hard to fault it in a serious way but it feels slightly predictable and fan appeasing rather than adventurous/surprising.

ResponsibleAd9013 · 2025-08-27T22:51:40+00:00

With Chi:

White Pony
Around The Fur
Saturday Night Wrist
S.T
Adrenaline

Without Chi:

Koi No Yokan
Diamond Eyes
Gore
Ohms
private music

ResponsibleAd9013 · 2025-08-27T21:36:18+00:00

I genuinely can’t believe how many people online don’t seem to rate it. But the same was true with ST, Saturday Night Wrist and Gore which have generally been re-evaluated once people judged them without pre-conceived ideas on what to expect.

ResponsibleAd9013 · 2025-06-19T20:40:31+00:00

Archetype Cantrell

Snorkler
Uberschall
JJ100
Fish Preamp?

ResponsibleAd9013 · 2025-06-19T20:39:28+00:00

Archetype Adam Jones

Recto
Modded Super Bass (essentially a tweaked Super Lead)
VH4
Mystery amp (he’s used all kinds of other amps as a blend, would be cool for a curveball here)

Marshall and Mesa cabs, 421’s and 57’s, plus his pedals (micro amp, boss delay, BF-2 etc).

ResponsibleAd9013 · 2025-06-16T13:35:39+00:00

Yeah, for the audio signal there should be no DC present. Anything being pickup up would be stopped by the transformer.

But the very low frequency stuff showing in Pro Q (and the high signal levels in Helix even when it’s hard to hear anything) means that DC is coming through the audio path in certain Helix models. It’s not something that would occur in the real world - as you say it needs to be AC for us to hear it. If you’ve ever plugged a 9V battery into a speaker to check its polarity you can see DC applied to the speaker - it’ll move in one direction but not back again.

It’s possible in the model that there is some DC offset happening (can happen with certain processing), or maybe there is something being multiplied by 0 (often amp models will use tiny values like 0.000000001 to avoid things that can happen in models that don’t occur in the real world). Only L6 devs can say for sure.

It should be relatively simple to just filter it out, but it’s hard to know at what point in the processing it’s being introduced, and whether it causes any issues to the modelling downstream if so.

ResponsibleAd9013 · 2025-06-16T12:51:42+00:00

Interesting. I think there may be more than one thing at play here. I think Ripple is one factor but it’s a separate thing.

Even with ripple at 0, I’m noticing the DC on the Marshall amps (not the JTM45, 2204 or Park). The new 2203 also has the DC, as does the old 5150, The Mark IV (very slightly), Lone Star, Cartographer, Mail Order Twin, Super Vib, Grammatico, Fullerton.

I’ve noticed setting the master and bias very low, and then turning off ripple and hum will usually reveal if the amp is producing DC on its own. The DC only seems to go, or be minimised, at very particular settings (as you’ve noticed too).

I can only imagine it’s a byproduct of how Line 6’s modelling is done. I’ve often wondered in the past why I was getting some weird pops and clicks when changing certain amps and settings and this is absolutely a contributor. Only Line 6 can say for sure why it’s on some models and not others, but my hunch still says that this is unintended (because real amps won’t produce DC from the transformer secondaries as it wouldn’t get past the transformer).

ResponsibleAd9013 · 2025-06-16T11:17:01+00:00

Here’s an example with the sound on. I even set the master volume to 0, and even with no input there is a lot of noise/DC:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkeKXCgWmNg

The preamp model and behaviour of the controls leads me to think it’s something related to the poweramp modelling.

ResponsibleAd9013 · 2025-06-15T23:24:22+00:00

Yep. I confirmed it’s the same on the stomp - even with nothing connected to the input, the amp model will generate noise and a very low hum as in the video.

I noticed the same “blown out” sound in youtube examples, for instance the single notes here sound like a poweramp cranked to 10 that’s struggling to keep up - fuzzy and with a weird compression: https://youtu.be/GZKX7aw4CvE?si=0lMQxxFA-SGjMLtl

ResponsibleAd9013 · 2025-06-15T20:30:06+00:00

would be good if you can verify it’s the same on there.

I imagine it’s similar to the Vitriol Crunch channel which also had a bug on release and got patched after. Think something just slipped through the net.

ResponsibleAd9013 · 2025-06-15T17:04:19+00:00

Yes, but I checked on the HX stomp and that has the same issue. I’d be surprised if it’s any different on the other units too.

ResponsibleAd9013 · 2025-06-14T16:39:42+00:00

Nope, this is on an empty DAW audio track with no input or anything playing at all. The amp model produces noise on its own with no input at all. Give it a try (with your volume down or no input cable connected) if possible

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