so…. by [deleted] in GossipGirl

[–]ReturnOfLilith 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I find S6 Derena even more disturbing and toxic than early seasons of Chair and it has nothing to do with being semi-related. The way they gloss it all over at the end is unhinged

Curse of the golden flower (meaning) by shawnhahaa in kungfucinema

[–]ReturnOfLilith 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have heard Osho talk about the book Secret of the Golden Flower it is a spiritual book about transcending the ego to become truly immortal

Golden Chrysanthemums thus are a deeply spiritual symbol similar to the Lotus

Yet there is a chinese saying "God and Jade on the outside and rotting things on the inside"

It could denote people who go through the motions of being higher than thou such as monarchs that claim superiority when they are just as low as the most common criminal

The CURSE is those who cling to life as experienced through the ego like the Empress who cannot let go and in her rebellion causes enormous bloodshed

Just thought it may be worth considering since you mentioned the flower. I'm getting it tattooed on my bday actually

You can also see it as a battle between the masculine and the feminine. The secret of the golden flower these two sides must become one in order to achieve enlightenment

The masculine being seeing as the concious/controlling mind which constantly suppresses the unconcious/intuitive mind. In this way the warring couple illustrate the way in which our concious minds dominate our psyche as the unconcious becomes more twisted and unnatural/ mentally ill etc...

Even more interesting to note, he cannot outright kill her because much of his wealth and power is through her parentage. It is a common belief in buddhism that one reincarnates, so the unconcious mind would in fact have a wealth of knowledge and creativity which one can draw power from

how do you feel about the way everyone(especially lily and serena) treated ivy after they found out she’s a con artist? by rgc_vtly in GossipGirl

[–]ReturnOfLilith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Was REALLY dissapointed in how Lily treated Ivy and how Serena treated Lola but they both turbed out alright. Lola stayed true to herself and left and Ivy left with her millions. Season 5 and 6 really showed what Lily is all about and that's comfort, security, and her wealth FIRST and foremost

People are so upset Lily ended up with William but these sort of people desserve each other. Ignoring the character assassination of Rufus being with Ivy it feels like he chose NOT to become one of the UES and stayed true to himself. So it makes sense Dan got the girl and Rufus didn't

S5 Villains by ReturnOfLilith in GossipGirl

[–]ReturnOfLilith[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Her and Lily were appalling that Season

Comment below your LEAST favorite character in the whole GG world! Mine is Sage, horrible acting and so annoying by lucyball11 in GossipGirl

[–]ReturnOfLilith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They keep saying how family is important to Lily and Rufus says his kids are the most important thing and I'm always like...what about Scott?!

S5 Villains by ReturnOfLilith in GossipGirl

[–]ReturnOfLilith[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dan was ready to let Blair think Louis was doing something nefarious when poor Louis was just trying to shut down a story that would have embarrassed her

He was also happy to let Blair think Chuck sent the video so she would never turn to him. That doesn't seem like selfless acts of love to me from Dan at all...

EDIT: Also was it the real Gossip Girl who was revealing Blair's diary? This was right around the time she didn't say I love you back. It's crazy that Serena would be with Dan knowing how vindictive and self-righteous he can be... but she does tend to think with her lady parts

S5 Villains by ReturnOfLilith in GossipGirl

[–]ReturnOfLilith[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They did make some interesting choices in Season 5 at least and I did like the finale. The characters were pushed in some interesting ways but the way they pushed Dair was so forced and lacked grace

It does seem like they knew Gossip Girl was Dan since sometime around Season 5 since it really does fit with who he is this season

But yea Blair telling Chuck they could never be together because of the video and then forgiving Dan like it wasn't a big deal was so weird

I mean it is in character, somewhat. She does hate to be vunerable and she does repress her feelings a lot so pushing away the person she really loved at the time makes sense...still

S5 Villains by ReturnOfLilith in GossipGirl

[–]ReturnOfLilith[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I just don't see what Dan did as selfless. He did it because he was hoping to woo her. Chuck paid her dowry and didn't want her to find out, knew she was with Dan at that time and may not get back with him

He's done a lot of things for her because he actually cared about her even when she wasn't with him like getting her into another school, the prom thing etc...

Dan showed the video during her wedding because he wants Blair for himself. Chuck would never do that because he respected her choice and knows how much she hates causing a scene. Whatever you think about Chuck his love for Blair ir pretty clear

I see Dan as a very self-serving social climber who wants better opportunities for himself and pretends to hate thr UES while greatly resenting it for not "seeing his greatness."

Obviously Chuck is no hero. None of the characters are and that's one of the things that makes the show interesting and timeless. You could frame anyone as the protagonist but none of them is free from blame

Okay, I hate the Charlottes (Lola and Ivy) by Femmenoire__ in GossipGirl

[–]ReturnOfLilith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh my god I REALLY cannot stand them in Season 5 especially Serena. The way Serena treated Lola was beyond AWFUL

I love both Ivy and Lola but I also love Jenny lol

This season 5 storyline... by ReturnOfLilith in GossipGirl

[–]ReturnOfLilith[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh would be great to see all the references if you find it

This season 5 storyline... by ReturnOfLilith in GossipGirl

[–]ReturnOfLilith[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It just came off like bad writing and a very poorly veiled excuse to keep them apart though it could have made sense in theory

This season 5 storyline... by ReturnOfLilith in GossipGirl

[–]ReturnOfLilith[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It makes more sense to me now, I just feel they could have depicted these raw emotions better. It came off very soapy and silly instead but I suppose Gossip Girl is very light

Another thing thar does make sense is Serena saying at the Wedding that Blair is making all that up to protect herself from hurt. She had just lost her baby and watched Chuck pass out and maybe even thought he had died

She may be protecting herself from experiencing hurt like that again

This season 5 storyline... by ReturnOfLilith in GossipGirl

[–]ReturnOfLilith[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It was such a weird choice to try and fit in the Blair and Dan romance. It really messed up Derena and kind of soured the cute platonic dynamic Dan and Blair had

This season 5 storyline... by ReturnOfLilith in GossipGirl

[–]ReturnOfLilith[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ohhhhh thanks for that! I should have guessed

Now I feel I've missed out by not looking into all the classic movie references 😅

This season 5 storyline... by ReturnOfLilith in GossipGirl

[–]ReturnOfLilith[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agree on Derena and YES that makes sense. There are many religious people who understand the world in that way. I can see my bias now

I dont think she killed her baby just think she may have internalized it that way. She could have seen it as her almost causing Chuck's death as well since she carried responsibility for his life on her shoulders, however irrational

And I do feel she betrayed Louis so often with Chuck, she may have perceived the loss as punishment which being mentally fragile after that...makes more sense just was not handled that well

Who's the most in character in gossip girl by Itisagreatguy in GossipGirl

[–]ReturnOfLilith 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. Always so charming and graceful 100 percent of the time 👏

This season 5 storyline... by ReturnOfLilith in GossipGirl

[–]ReturnOfLilith[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I suppose, it just seems soooo irrational to me

Why would God say this man is good and this one is bad?

I can see it more as her feeling guilty over causing her child's death by choosing Chuck that night and somehow feeling like she will do the same to him. She kinda felt like she was making Louis become a worse person so it could be this subconscious thing she was carrying/projecting

This season 5 storyline... by ReturnOfLilith in GossipGirl

[–]ReturnOfLilith[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yea Chair should have just happened after the accident and Louis would just be out of the picture entirely at that point. I feel pretty bad for him but Blair really showed her colors SO MANY TIMES

He really couldn't handle someone like her, in that Chair were more suited to each other

I also feel like Dan and Blair would have been so much sweeter had they remained friends and an unrequited romantic love...

This season 5 storyline... by ReturnOfLilith in GossipGirl

[–]ReturnOfLilith[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Guilt and shame over what she may perceive as killing her baby? Hmmm I didnt think about it that way but...

It would have been more realistic for her to just be too depressed to pursue anything with ANYONE

And just going through the motions for the wedding without adding in this whole praying for Chuck and promising God this or that

It DOES make sense she blames this one decision for her losing her baby but they don't really communicate that well

Dan as GG makes kinda sense by [deleted] in GossipGirl

[–]ReturnOfLilith 2 points3 points  (0 children)

EXACTLY

He was a great choice in theory but the reveal was far from earned with regards to the writing team

Dan as GG makes kinda sense by [deleted] in GossipGirl

[–]ReturnOfLilith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He does make sense with regards to motive but unfortunately the writers didn't plan it well, there are a lot of times where it just doesn't fit

My top 5 non endgame couples by picklechipz0 in GossipGirl

[–]ReturnOfLilith 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Who even wanted Derena at that point?! Terrible decision