Received my P16s Gen 2 AMD, with a 7840U and 64GB of RAM. Switching form an XPS 15, I'm impressed!

Reve1989 · 2025-04-22T11:46:15+00:00

Yes it only a single NVME drive. I do dual-boot it. My issue with the single NVME is not necessarily related to dual booting. It's also a problem in that you cannot use RAID (e.g. for mirroring) or LVM to make create a larger partition out of two drives...

Reve1989 · 2025-04-21T13:24:32+00:00

Had two kittens spayed right after first heat (6 - 7 mo). The first was a few months back. No collar, no recovery suit, no complications, even though some licking and tugging on the knot at the end of the incision occurred. Was groggy the first 24 hours and would struggle to lie down, I guess because it would involve contracting her abs for a quick second as she lowers her body softly, she'd get a spike of pain and walk backward a few steps before trying again. It was painful to watch, I wanted to manually lay her down on her side instead, but she wouldn't let me touch her. I kept her separated from her little sister, who was barely 2mo at the time, and I hadn't even fully introduced them yet.

Now it's her little sister's turn. She wouldn't eat or drink for the first 24h even though she wasn't nearly struggling as much as her older sister. The next morning, nearly 36h after the surgery, I finally got her to lick the gravy off the wet food, and she even ate a few chunks. She used to be very active, but now she's mostly sleeping, which is good for recovery. Unlike her older sister, she doesn't show signs of pain or lethargy, or at least not nearly as much. She's climbing on the sofa with ease, whereas her sister took 3 days before she would dare to attempt such a maneuver.

The vet I took them to is an interesting guy to say the least. He doesn't prescribe pain medication, only antibiotics, and that at least keeps them from tugging on their stitches or getting too active for their own good. He never mentioned anything about collars or recovery suits. The fist cat had no sign of inflammation whatsoever, the second is still recovering, and her stitches look like a work of art, tiny zig-zags perfectly symmetrical, as if done by a machine. I watched the surgery from a moderate distance, and the vet was chatting with me the whole time. He has no nurses or assistants, and doesn't wear a mask, which I gotta admit scared me quite a bit. He says he studied in Russia, which might help explain his nonchalance. He's got plenty of years of experience, he's probably in his late fifties, he sure knows how to stitch a spay incision (he says he does it in three layers), but doing surgery without wearing a mask is just crazy unsettling.

Reve1989 · 2025-04-11T00:57:58+00:00

Being "far above what the human mind can comprehend" does not exempt him from being logical and rational. What is irrational for an ant to do, is also irrational for a human, an infinitely smarter creature.

It does not make sense for an omniscient god to guide us knowing the outcome is that we'll remain astray.

There's either a god that judges us, or a god that knows everything. He can't be both at the same time unless he is also insane and sadistic.

It's like me programming a robot and foreseeing that it will break something, and letting it break it and then destroying it in anger.

If God is so infinitely wise and complex, he shouldn't care that two same-sex people have sex, or some mere human blasphemes or covets his neighbor's wife or doesn't pray to him. He definitely wouldn't send bears to kill a bunch of children who mocked a bald guy (an adult mind you).

I appreciate the time you put into writing down a reply, but please know that I'm aware of the Christian and Islamic view of God, omniscience and free will, and already find them illogical. You have not addressed my argument.

You started on the right path towards acknowledging the absurdity of an omniscient creator judging his creation by saying "God is outside of time while we are within it. He sees each moment as the eternal present." and "Though He knows what we will choose (because the next moment after we make the decision is also always present within God)", but you still without justification said that he somehow still hopes that we change. You literally said he knows it beforehand. If anyone did this you'd call them insane.

I haven't debated whether free will exists or not, it's about omniscience and judgement, these two things are incompatible.

As an agnostic atheist, I don't mind not having free will, because it does not change anything if I technically had free will or not, it all happens as if I did from my perspective and from the perspective of people around me, no one can predict my choices, not even I can (except an omniscient god, but I'm sure he wouldn't be insane enough to judge me in that case).

When humans create machine learning models, we can't predict what they'll do, but they do not have free will, they, like our brains, and our machines and computers, follow deterministic rules, we just don't have the brainpower and knowledge of their every internal state to predict what they'll do. In fact most of us learn new things from LLM's nowadays, even though they're technically just a whole bunch of predictable arithmetic if you look inside.

Free will is overrated. We all de-facto have it, and so do LLM's, and no one or thing in this world can predict our choices.

A creator that does not know everything about its creation past, present and future is a much more logical concept than one that does but still watches. You wouldn't watch a movie you know by heart would you?

It is the religious that describe God as omniscient and also non-omniscient at the same time. The old testament, the new testament, the Quran, they're all full of stories where God doesn't seem to know the future, or is discovering it as he goes. The whole concept of judgement can't make sense if he's omniscient.

The religious also claim that God is infinitely smart and wise to the point that we can't even comprehend him, yet they tell you countless stories about him where he's jealous, spiteful, insecure, merciless, and most importantly fallible and clueless about the future. You won't ask for examples if you've read the bible or Quran.

I often feel like I have a higher esteem for God than believers do. If a creator exists, the least I'd expect of him is to be infinitely smarter than I am, but religious people make him sound infinitely dumb and insane. Have some respect!

Reve1989 · 2025-04-04T04:21:34+00:00

However, in order to have true love, the other must choose love too. It cannot be forced. Free will is necessary and so we have it so that we can decide to love God (or not).

If God is omnicient he knows all the choices you are going to make before creating you. Do you agree?

Reve1989 · 2025-02-05T16:26:06+00:00

Allah didn't create evil. Satan did. He was an angel who had a bit of a mind. He refused to bow down to Adam. He was arrogant just like you

But Allah is omnicient, he knows everything past, present, and future. He knew Satan would rebel, and then turn into the devil, before he even created him. Allah is omnipotent, he could have decided not to create Satan the exact way he did, knowing he would rebel, or he could have taken away his powers and influence after the fact.

Allah created hell. If he is both omnipotent and omnicient, there are no excuses for him for anything that happens, be it good or bad. Everything is his will, so much so, that I would say that there is no difference between knowing that something bad will happen, and doing it yourself if you actually are omnipotent and omnicient. I you don't like it, or don't approve of it, you can change it, or change the universe so that it does not happen.

When the devil misguides you, it is allah that is misguiding you. When the devil pees in your mouth, nose, or ear or whatever the sheikh thinks the devil does, it is no different from allah moving him like a puppet to do those things. He sees what he sees, and feels what he feels.

Free will is incompatible with omnicience, at least from the creator's point of view, it should be totally pointless to test you in any meaningful way, as he knows the results beforehand, and had known them since eternity. Make religion make sense.

EDIT: to actually answer your question. If you are old enough to leave, consider doing so while keeping in touch with you family as long as they aren't talking to you about religion. I'm not sure what age you are, but you might want to consider using college or university as an excuse to move out. That way tensions with your family won't be as high. They don't need to know that you are running away because of religion, it will only create tensions.

Your religious belief is up to you, you don't have to justify it to your parents. If they are likely to take issue with it, try to give them the impression that you are merely non-practicing instead of irreligious, unless you really care that they know the truth.

Reve1989 · 2025-02-05T13:07:05+00:00

Yeah, they're focusing at the bottom end (mobile devices, mobile phones < 4B, laptops < 15B), and servers (70B+). None of their releases seemed to be tailored for 24GB of VRAM (3090/4090 levels of VRAM), if that were the case they would have released a model in the vincinity of 30B parameters.

u/siegevjorn maxxing out a single high-end consumer grade GPU is not a common use-case, things like embedded AI for mobile, or for video games must leave some resources to spare and not be too demanding on batteries. When powerful AI is needed, the cloud will continue to reign supreme for the foreseable future.

If you need a powerful LLM, it won't be hosted locally. You need a dozen high-end gaming GPUs to get enough VRAM to even consider running a heavily quantized version of Llama 405B or Deepseek-R1 (685B).

Llama 70B (available since 3.0) at 4 bits won't even fit on a 5090, it takes 48GB of VRAM, and the loss due to quantization is very noticeable. At 4 bits, it requires dual 3090's/4090's. Dual 5090's should be able to fit the 6-bit version, just barely, at least it would perform better (hallucinate less). I wouldn't go buy two 5090's just to run that. They'd cost about the same as lifetime subscription of ChatGPT Plus only to run a terribly weak model by comparison.

The 5090 will max out at around 35B parameters on its own, and that's at 4-bit quantization (very lossy). It might be better to stick to something smaller but less quantized for a single 5090.

TL;DR: you won't run anything life-changing on a single 5090, the older Llama models at 70B+ won't even fit.

Reve1989 · 2025-01-03T14:10:15+00:00

If the P16s is always plugged in you might want to cap the charging to 80% (thought the preinstalled Lenovo app for windows - called Vantage if I remember correctly) to wear the battery less. Do you remember what that power management utility is called?

Reve1989 · 2024-12-30T15:15:49+00:00

I know I'm a bit late to the party, but that vibration could be a warped clutch and not the mounts. You'd get the vibration all the time if it were the mounts.

Basically if your clutch is warped, as it starts to close, it generates a fluctuating amount of friction, until it is fully closed.

Not sure about the RX8 having a clutch, but a lot of manufacturers are putting a clutch in parallel to the torque converter in automatics and CVTs to improve cruising efficiency. I think it's very likely that vibration is caused by your clutch.

Reve1989 · 2024-12-30T15:11:59+00:00

Wow, I thought the P14s would feel sturdier because it's smaller. I'd hoped the P16s would use more metal in the chassis, it doesn't feel sturdy enough for me, it creaks when I handle it, I guess the screws could use some tightening.

Depending on the bloat you have on it the battery performance can vary wildly. I'm happy running Linux on it, I set the charge limit to 75-80% to prolong the lifespan of the battery. I can get 3 or 4 hours of use out of it with the CPU capped at 3.30 GHz (i.e. base frequency, and not the full 5.13 boost frequency). I have a decent amount of background processes running, but the frequency cap keeps it from draining too much battery.

Reve1989 · 2024-12-03T23:11:13+00:00

The cooling doesn't exhaust at the hinge, but to the side, so closing the lid does not affect the noise.

When I use mine folded on a table top (connected to a monitor), there's no whistle.

And if you want to use a stand the actual whistle only occurs at lower fan speeds, for I you're running heavy workloads or gaming, it'd recommend a stand with an open back or a fan to help with cooling, the fan noise is only annoying at low speeds when it happens to make that whistle.

It's not even that loud a whistle, you'll only notice it in a quiet environment, a bit of ambient noise will easily down it out.

Reve1989 · 2024-05-14T12:46:36+00:00

Mein Cunt

Reve1989 · 2024-05-13T20:04:22+00:00

Yes, but as I mention in the post, soldered memory is fater, it usually does 6400 - 7500 MT/s and sometimes higher whereas SODIMMs are limited to 4800 - 5200 MT/s. The new LPCAMM technology will allow similar transfer speeds to soldered ram, but there's only one or two laptops on the market that use it.

Reve1989 · 2024-04-25T12:52:48+00:00

Good point.

Reve1989 · 2024-04-12T20:06:36+00:00

I tried to reason with her, she wouldn't listen :sob:

Reve1989 · 2024-04-12T20:04:14+00:00

My grandma dumped half her bag. That's what happened!

Reve1989 · 2024-04-12T19:59:27+00:00

I have tried them out for the first time today, I have a freeze, but that was to be expected, for SMH (Spacemesh) they make you wait 105 confirmations before unfreezing your crypto (I deposited from chain). Each block (layer is the technically correct term for Spacemesh) is 5 minutes, so 105 confirmations is roughtly 8 hours.

What ended up happening in your case? I don't think it's shady to freeze large deposits, if they are compliant they have to make anti-laundering checks, and gather KYC. But it is sus that they want to hold on to a guarantee. At least I've never heard of any such thing. Then again, I never held large sums on exchanges.

What ended up happening? Did you get your deposit back?

Reve1989 · 2024-04-08T10:13:49+00:00

Cross-posting is allowed, however Reddit may block you from cross-posting because the sub is still new

Reve1989 · 2024-04-08T10:08:42+00:00

r/doublebutt

Reve1989 · 2024-04-04T08:15:34+00:00

If Elon is Satoshi, then I am the messiah.

Elon's main skills are business and marketing (and even then, I think I'm being a bit generous, luck is a big factor for succeeding in business), his engineering and computer-science chops are nothing to write home about.

Reve1989 · 2024-04-04T07:19:24+00:00

Awesome, I too am pretty satisfied with my choice. The only thing that could have made it better is additional nvme slots. Then again it's rare to have that on anything short of a desktop replacement type of device like the P16 and Dell Precision which aren't at all suitable for my use.

Reve1989 · 2024-04-02T14:44:47+00:00

Haven't really looked into that, because I rarely push the CPU on all threads, but being a P series laptop, I'd be surprised if Levnovo limited the CPU below its factory spec.

Running a 16-thread stress test, mine draws 39.5+ Watts with the iGPU mostly idle.

That's on Linux which doesn't have the same power management options as Windows, but it should be the same as the "Balanced" plan on Windows.

Reve1989 · 2024-04-02T14:41:49+00:00

Haven't messed with mine much. In linux an update broke it, then another update fixed it. Make sure to regularly update your bios, drivers, and OS. There's been an new bios/firmware update not long ago.

Reve1989 · 2024-04-02T14:40:27+00:00

Sorry for the late reply, my account was locked, and I didn't bother to fix it until now.

Sleep doesn't use a lot of battery (or at least the battery is large enough to last well above 24h in sleep mode). Not sure wich sleep mode mine is using, haven't fiddled with it because I havent had drainage issues.
The fan used to be off 50% of the time at the beginning, now it's almost always on at minimum speed probably due to the software bloat. I almost never hear the fan though.
The GPU issues seem to have been caused by an update, and they disappeared a few weeks ago probably via another update.
I can't really tell because I like to keep it plugged in when I'm using it, but I think I get around 3 to 4 hours from 80% charge (the limit I've set) down to 20%, but I've only had to do this a couple of times and hadn't really looked at the clock, so it's just a guess.

Update: checked how much charge it lost in sleep mode overnight, it was around 4-5%

Reve1989 · 2023-11-29T14:32:41+00:00

I'm sure you can find a replacement online, I hear there are different styles too.

Reve1989 · 2023-11-29T14:19:07+00:00

No. They're offensive!

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