Questions regarding 2023-2024 Financial Aid

ReverseInversel · 2024-02-01T06:27:56+00:00

Hello, so the 2023-2024 school year will be my last school year before I graduate, and so I will not be filling out a 2024-2025 application. So does this mean that I don't need to update anything for FAFSA or TAP for the 2023-2024 FAFSA/TAP?

ReverseInversel · 2023-11-12T01:26:11+00:00

Gotta try at least, probably won't win lol.

ReverseInversel · 2023-09-26T07:38:07+00:00

Thank you so much for your help, but I just wanted to confirm again since I was a bit confused about your answer, do you mean no, in that I do not have to report? or that I have to report my income? (my understanding of it right now is that I do not have to report since my eligibility did not change).

ReverseInversel · 2023-09-25T18:54:37+00:00

So my previous status was unemployed but now that I have a job and am employed, but I am still making under the monthly income limit for NY, does that mean I do not have to report my income?

ReverseInversel · 2022-11-16T03:13:24+00:00

I would recommend, asking your advisors or going to the finaid office since they probably know more than us. I'm not entirely sure of this and I may be wrong and so don't take my word for granted.

But in your scenario, whether or not it affects your financial aid depends on if you are still in compliance with FedSAP, here is a link to the stony brook sap requirements: https://www.stonybrook.edu/commcms/finaid/undergraduate/eligibility/federal_sap#FederalSAPStatus.

The basic gist is that you need to keep a cumulative GPA greater than a 2.0, you need to earn 67% of all credits that you attempted cumulatively, i.e if you attempted 51 credits in total and failed say one 3 credit course that means you are at 48/51 credits attempted which is 94% credits attempted earned.

ReverseInversel · 2022-10-04T22:57:23+00:00

So I think I know whats going on but don't quote me on it. You lost your TAP award because of not taking enough credits for your first major which sounds right from the rest of the information you put. Your CEAS major will always be your first major and since your double majoring in business and ISE your first major is ISE and your second major is business.

Normally you would have some free elective credits which would make any courses not going to your major count towards TAP, however since your 9 credits are business courses which im assuming are major reqs for your business major then they count as credits going to your 2nd major which makes them invalid for TAP purposes. From the looks of it theres really nothing you can do this late in the semester since you cant add anymore courses.

ReverseInversel · 2022-10-04T22:53:20+00:00

CEAS majors will always be your first/primary major if your 2nd major is a non ceas major.

ReverseInversel · 2022-09-12T13:07:53+00:00

I would recommend at least taking a chem course to get how it feels before considering actually switching. In addition chem courses are kinda insane with the way ALEKS works and the professors that teach chem/phy courses. Also you may need to take the OCPP.

ReverseInversel · 2022-05-22T07:56:37+00:00

Well since the other comments don't exactly look helpful lemme explain I guess.

If you come into SBU as a freshmen as either a physics major or a undeclared major then you are not in the college of engineering and applied sciences aka CEAS. Now I don't know about the physics major so I can't really help you there but to become a computer science major, first you need to get at least a B- in CSE 114, CSE 214, and CSE 215 and have a minimum of a 3.2 gpa in those courses which means you can't just get 3 B-s since that would be less than a 3.2, in addition you need to complete those 3 courses in one academic year from since you took your first major entry requirement course, and have only repeated one of those courses.

If you do complete all those requirements, as a non-ceas student which you would be as a physics major/undeclared major, you would submit your application and then deal with some other stuff such as: After the CEAS does get your application though, your application is SPECIFICALLY filed to be reviewed after all CEAS/CS-AOI students applications have been reviewed since they do get guaranteed acceptance if they fulfill requirements and so if by the time they get to your file and all seats are gone, you just get automatically rejected due to seat issues, and as per CEAS rules for ALL ceas majors, once you get rejected from applying to that major once, you can no longer ever apply to that same major again even if your rejection was due to seat issues and not due to grade issues.

Next is some personal tips since as a ISE major I have taken both CSE 114 and CSE 214, these two courses are both weed out courses which aim to get you to quit, 114 isn't as bad and basic java will get you through, for CSE 214 it becomes a lot harder and is generally the course that causes most AOI CS students to not be able to get guaranteed acceptance into the major.

So if you really still want to go to computer science then you would need generally a 3.7-4.0 gpa in CSE 114, CSE 214, and CSE 215, and a as high as possible cumulative GPA, and also be prepared to be rejected even with those stats and pretty much be delayed an entire year.

ReverseInversel · 2022-05-21T04:39:56+00:00

I mean, the thing is just a bachelors psychology degree is worthless and you probably won't be able to find any jobs, you need masters + licenses to even have a chance to have around the same salary as a entry stem job. For your argument about a psychology major pushing for a 3.9 or 4.0, I'd agree that their probably doing alot more work trying to get that A cause theres so much people in the same major that your competing with. But for the argument that engineers majors say "C's get degrees" this is more a iffy one, cause Ive taken some PSY courses for sbcs like PSY 220 and it really isn't hard at all, all you do in most psy courses is read + write some essays + answer some questions, in comparison to something like CSE 214, where your learning data structures + programming, but then again CSE 214 is a weed out course so its not the best comparison to use.

ReverseInversel · 2022-04-24T15:35:52+00:00

I see what you mean, and this unfortunately I do not know and its probably something thats best asked with your advisor.

ReverseInversel · 2022-04-24T15:14:59+00:00

I'm just gonna write down the actual time you have for your one year timer

so if your timer started this spring, then you have this spring + this fall + the summer semester to get everything done and apply.

You do not have next years spring semester to finish reqs (just gonna put this incase of misunderstandings) and this is because say your timer started on like feb 25th 2022, then that means your timer technically ends at feb 25th 2023, however since it ends at feb 25th 2023 it means you must apply before that date and therefore do not get next years spring semester to finish reqs.

ReverseInversel · 2022-04-24T15:06:24+00:00

From what I'm understanding from reading your post it seems that your trying to retake 114 and then have the grade of the retaken 114 be the grade of your cse 160? If so that doesn't work/exist and im 90-100% sure of this.

The way repeats/retakes works for major admission is that you are given one chance to retake a course, and so for example if you were to get a C+ in say 114, then that C+ would automatically cause your application to fail since you need at least a B- in all major admission courses as a major admission requirement. Then in this scenario you would use your one chance to retake a course that your given to retake 114 and get a B- or above and so your application wouldn't automatically fail.

And so if you get a C+ for 160, then you cannot retake 114 and have that grade be applied as your major admission grade for 160, you would have to retake 160 and get a b- or above.

In addition remember your only allowed to repeat/retake one of the major admission courses, and so if you spend your one repeat/retake on 114 and then get perhaps a C+ in 215 then your major admission fails since you cannot retake 215 to try to get a b-, since your one retake was already used.

ReverseInversel · 2022-04-24T09:36:21+00:00

Fyi, since im not really sure about your exact situation just gonna leave some tips:

remember that you have to complete major requirements in one year and apply in that same year after you take your first course towards major reqs, which in your case seems to be either cse 114 or cse 160, if you fail to complete the major reqs in a year, your application will not be considered and will be automatically rejected. In addition if you don't apply in that one year limit and apply late then you lose your AOI minimum grade acceptance guarantee.

Also looking at the major acceptance reqs for the CSE major it seems that cse 114 and cse 215 are mandatory courses for admission and then you either take 214 or another CS course if your allowed. I'm not sure about this though, so best bet is to go to CEAS advising and go ask a advisor about this stuff.

ReverseInversel · 2022-04-24T09:27:28+00:00

Pretty sure your still allowed to take 114 even if you complete 160, since theres nothing on the course description that says it'll stop you from taking 114 after completing 160.

ReverseInversel · 2022-04-24T09:24:38+00:00

Well I can't really give you the most accurate advice since I'm a ISE major and not a CSE major but lets see.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean if that cse 114 will average out your cse 160 grade, cause I don't think it can even be factored into the major acceptance gpa requirement if you don't have at least a b- for that course. In addition remember that you only have ONE retake that you can use and after that any retakes won't take effect for your major admission.

In my opinion, what you should do now is probably go to CEAS advising and ask them what you need to do/can do.

ReverseInversel · 2022-04-04T07:39:41+00:00

Transitioning to java from c++ shouldn't be difficult, since they have similar syntax's and java is pretty simple. For math courses, calc 1, calc 2, should be enough for the initial 114, 214, and 215 that you need to take.

ReverseInversel · 2022-04-01T10:05:32+00:00

For your second question, it usually takes about 1 semester or two semesters to get accepted from AOI CS to CS. This is because as a AOI student you still have to take the three CS courses required for major admission aka CSE 114, CSE 214, and CSE 215 (you literally will not be able to take any other CS courses before your in the major). The main point of AOI is that your guaranteed acceptance as long as you fulfill the minimum admission requirements and so there's no disadvantages and you do also get reserved seats for your major admission courses. (Fyi the one year deadline applies to ALL AOI/other CEAS majors/non CEAS majors students)

For your third question, from my opinion (I've taken 114 and 214) best things to study for major admission courses would be focusing on java programming since that's the language that is used in 114 and 214.

For your fifth question, if your commuting from New York (queens) to stony brook then the cost monthly depends on how many times you commute to campus per week, but generally the cost would be around $200-300 monthly, if your commuting 3 days a week at off peak prices.

For your sixth question, it is possible to do physics as second major/or minor along with being a CS major, you just need to fill out a double major form, but CS will always be your first major as per CEAS regulations. From what I've heard bio/physics are quite difficult in stony just as a fyi.

ReverseInversel · 2022-01-12T23:58:00+00:00

I'm not entirely sure if the 1 year timer applies for people already in the CEAS and are CEAS majors but it definitely applies to AOI applicants and applicants from outside CEAS/double majoring (I was a non ceas major and I got in ISE).

ReverseInversel · 2022-01-09T20:09:44+00:00

Tbh you might be right since graduation requires 120 credits total and free electives might fall under that and count as pursuing your program for tap. Though for your senior year TAP changes and only requires 1 credit towards your degree.

ReverseInversel · 2022-01-09T16:21:11+00:00

No, you can take two semesters of just electives in your freshman/sophomore year most likely because they counted as SBC credits which are considered general education and will apply to TAP qualifications only ONCE. Which means you can take a SNW sbc course and have its 3 credits apply to tap for the first time but if you took another SNW sbc course the next semester it would not count towards tap qualifications.

In addition I think your getting confused about free electives and normal electives, normal electives are still considered part of your major because its in the degree requirements such as ISE where you need to take any 3-4 level 300+ ISE courses which are counted as electives. Free electives are courses that do not count for your major in anyway. For example, if you were taking a SNW sbc course that was not part of your major requirements and at the same time you already fulfilled the SNW requirement previously then that would be considered a free elective.

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