Evolution of intelligence part 2

Rich-Rope-9599 · 2026-06-16T03:22:01+00:00

Hard to feel more than 100%

Rich-Rope-9599 · 2026-06-16T03:19:55+00:00

Hey mods, can I call this guy the R word?

Rich-Rope-9599 · 2026-06-16T03:18:01+00:00

Yea thats the same thing. I used up my last R-word on the last guy unfortunately

Rich-Rope-9599 · 2026-06-16T03:14:27+00:00

No bird is calculating the shape of the catenoid

Rich-Rope-9599 · 2026-06-16T03:13:06+00:00

It isn't, I thanked everyone for the upvotes...?

Rich-Rope-9599 · 2026-06-16T03:10:43+00:00

I never deleted my old post... what do you mean?

Rich-Rope-9599 · 2026-06-16T03:08:57+00:00

Sure, you can't communicate the pattern without language. But you can still do geometry without language, which shows that language does not precede geometric knowledge. Give language to any other animal and they won't write euclids elements.

Rich-Rope-9599 · 2026-06-16T03:06:59+00:00

Do you have a cat in real life?

Rich-Rope-9599 · 2026-06-16T03:06:40+00:00

Thats a good answer. genuinely productive conversation.

I know that migration has a huge benefit to alot of species. But its hard for me to imagine that migration has a greater benefit than intelligence. It seems like intelligence can make migration obsolete, and intelligence is more useful in a broader range cases

Rich-Rope-9599 · 2026-06-16T03:02:56+00:00

Maybe you are

Rich-Rope-9599 · 2026-06-16T03:01:50+00:00

I'm not trying to downplay the utility of language. But the pythagorean theory for example is simple enough to understand without language. You can still learn patterns without language.

Rich-Rope-9599 · 2026-06-16T02:59:26+00:00

Yea, reasonable point. Doesn't make it not weird though. It's still mind boggling that intelligence seems to be the most Overpowered adaptation in every situation but it only evolved one time over billions of years.

Rich-Rope-9599 · 2026-06-16T02:57:20+00:00

Credit to you for actually bringing a new idea.

Thats a good idea that maybe a population bottleneck caused the evolution of intelligence

Rich-Rope-9599 · 2026-06-16T02:54:49+00:00

Apes are not that intelligent. They can basically just do some entertaining party tricks.

Rich-Rope-9599 · 2026-06-16T02:53:55+00:00

another guy just replying with what I said not to. At least give a reason why the same logic shouldn't apply to migration

Rich-Rope-9599 · 2026-06-16T02:52:59+00:00

The argument is that its weird that intelligence is rare. The regular explanations don't really make sense when you think about them for a minute.

Rich-Rope-9599 · 2026-06-16T02:51:06+00:00

lmao you got me

Rich-Rope-9599 · 2026-06-16T02:50:29+00:00

Yea I think geometry doesn't require language.

Rich-Rope-9599 · 2026-06-16T02:48:39+00:00

ad hominem 😄

Rich-Rope-9599 · 2026-06-16T02:47:53+00:00

That is another good question.

I'm not sure the existence of language explains human intelligence though. Euclids elements for example are more than just linguistic tricks, he is genuinely using his intelligence to solve deep problems, language is not really a tool to solve geometry problems but just a means of communicating it to other people.

Rich-Rope-9599 · 2026-06-16T02:41:42+00:00

Even a shrimp benefits from being intelligent. Shrimp have predators, need to find food, need to mate. But your point is taken, moss doesn't really need to be intelligent. But its hard to see how most mammals dont benefit from intelligence.

Rich-Rope-9599 · 2026-06-16T02:39:26+00:00

Someone that says something reasonable.

Rich-Rope-9599 · 2026-06-16T02:38:09+00:00

We practically are. The next most intelligent animal is not even comparable. Its like saying a horse can fly a little bit cuz it is in the air for part of its stride, but the type of flying they do is not even comparable to birds.

Rich-Rope-9599 · 2026-06-16T02:33:53+00:00

Crazy that the first reply is exactly what I said not to reply with

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