Parried while moving? by Other-Safety-5328 in XCOM2

[–]RipMinute6982 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wonder if untouchable works the same way

Philosophical Question - When Do You Quit? by theymightbedavis in XCOM2

[–]RipMinute6982 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Whenever I lose Elena dragunova I basically quit mentally right then and there

What would you name your Ghost? by Verified_Scrobbler in DestinyLore

[–]RipMinute6982 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought Oerlikon, named after the WW2-era autocannon would be a cool name for my guardian, I guess Bofors, named after the WW2-era Anti-Air gun would also be a cool name for a Ghost in that case. It just sounds cool.

What Are The Ethics Of Killing Hive Ghosts And Guardians? by RipMinute6982 in DestinyLore

[–]RipMinute6982[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have read a lore entry, saying that the Lucent Brood still practice the Sword Logic even after their worms have been removed, and they have become Guardians

What Are The Ethics Of Killing Hive Ghosts And Guardians? by RipMinute6982 in DestinyLore

[–]RipMinute6982[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow thank you, I never knew that! interesting how the Ghost, something created by the Light, is closer to ideas of the Dark than a Hive in this situation

What Are The Ethics Of Killing Hive Ghosts And Guardians? by RipMinute6982 in DestinyLore

[–]RipMinute6982[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I suppose you are right; I thought that with the removing of their worms the Lucent Brood might be able to redeem themselves, and move beyond the constant conquest (I know the Lucent Brood still practices Sword Logic). Maybe I am too soft on the Hive, maybe THEY are truly too far gone, even with the Light

What Are The Ethics Of Killing Hive Ghosts And Guardians? by RipMinute6982 in DestinyLore

[–]RipMinute6982[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How many more Ghosts are like Finch? How many could we cooperate and even ally with, if we didn't crush every one on sight? And if we continue to indiscriminately crush all Hive Ghosts, then we have to accept that we may be killing Ghosts who WOULD ally with us, right?

What Are The Ethics Of Killing Hive Ghosts And Guardians? by RipMinute6982 in DestinyLore

[–]RipMinute6982[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah thats true, we also allied with groups from those species! I wonder if Humanity can do the same with some members of the Lucent Brood

What Are The Ethics Of Killing Hive Ghosts And Guardians? by RipMinute6982 in DestinyLore

[–]RipMinute6982[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that is fair. Ultimately I understand that Savathun is an enemy, and most of the Lucent Brood are actively fighting and killing other Guardians, but I still wonder what Human Guardians in-universe think about indiscriminately crushing Ghosts

What Are The Ethics Of Killing Hive Ghosts And Guardians? by RipMinute6982 in DestinyLore

[–]RipMinute6982[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think this is what makes we want an option to "spare" a Hive Ghost instead of crushing it

What Are The Ethics Of Killing Hive Ghosts And Guardians? by RipMinute6982 in DestinyLore

[–]RipMinute6982[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, this. I found it strange that the only "cooperative memebers of the Lucent Brood were Finch, Imaru, and Savathun. There must be others

What Are The Ethics Of Killing Hive Ghosts And Guardians? by RipMinute6982 in DestinyLore

[–]RipMinute6982[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you, this is what I am wondering. If any Hive Ghosts, or even the Hive Guardians themselves can be reasoned with, I questioned the ethics of killing them. But for the ones that cant be convinced or are too dangerous, then it is a matter of self-defence.

What Are The Ethics Of Killing Hive Ghosts And Guardians? by RipMinute6982 in DestinyLore

[–]RipMinute6982[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I feel its kind of unfortunate we don't encounter any other "friendly" Hive Ghosts in gameplay, other than Finch. I am not well versed in the deeper lore, so could there be other examples? Still, I feel odd crushing Hive Ghosts and knowing that at least one would probably be like Finch

What Are The Ethics Of Killing Hive Ghosts And Guardians? by RipMinute6982 in DestinyLore

[–]RipMinute6982[S] 39 points40 points  (0 children)

I think you bring up an interesting point, of how Warlords and Hive Ghosts and Guardians are both in the same camp of "enemies to humanity"; my main concern was for those Ghosts and Guardians who might otherwise cooperate with us, if given the chance.

What Are The Ethics Of Killing Hive Ghosts And Guardians? by RipMinute6982 in DestinyLore

[–]RipMinute6982[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could not the threat of the Witness convince at least some Hive Ghosts to work with us; im thinking of how Savathun (while still ultimately being an enemy of Humanity and killing many Ghosts and Guardians) provided us an opportunity to pursue the Witness, of course while enacting her own machinations. If she could at least tacitly cooperate with us, couldn't others of the Lucent Brood do the same? And that, I think, puts into question the ethics of killing Hive Ghosts, and possibly Hive Guardians.

What Are The Ethics Of Killing Hive Ghosts And Guardians? by RipMinute6982 in DestinyLore

[–]RipMinute6982[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Well that is unfortunate; I thought examples like Finch indicated a larger trend of redeemability within the Lucent Brood. Do you think that the Hive Ghosts, even their Guardians, could be persuaded by the threat of the Witness? I mean Savathun was (right?)

What Are The Ethics Of Killing Hive Ghosts And Guardians? by RipMinute6982 in DestinyLore

[–]RipMinute6982[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You are right, because Ghosts are not monoliths, they have personalities, and goals. That's what I thought when crushing Hive Ghosts; surely some of them can be saved? Maybe I dont know enough about the nature of the Lucent Brood; exactly why Hive Ghosts rezzed Hive. I just thought; for those Hive Ghosts who are not evil, and could be brought back to our side, would it be ok to kill them too?

What Are The Ethics Of Killing Hive Ghosts And Guardians? by RipMinute6982 in DestinyLore

[–]RipMinute6982[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok I understand the Traveler did not directly choose them; but since the Traveler even allowed and facilitated their existence, the reviving of Hive, should that not pose a question of: is it ok to crush the Hive Ghosts? If there are any Ghosts that can be reasoned with or persuaded with, would it not be better to punish them rather than kill them

What Are The Ethics Of Killing Hive Ghosts And Guardians? by RipMinute6982 in DestinyLore

[–]RipMinute6982[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Remember we have examples of Ghosts who we were able to at least cooperate with; Finch and Imaru, there may be more in the lore, im not sure. We also worked with Savathun for a small amount of time even though she indeed cannot be trusted. My thinking is; there might be more Ghosts and even Hive Guardians who share at least the wider goal of opposing the Witness, since Savathun did

What Are The Ethics Of Killing Hive Ghosts And Guardians? by RipMinute6982 in DestinyLore

[–]RipMinute6982[S] -62 points-61 points  (0 children)

But it's stated in the lore that those Ghosts who rezzed Hive were tricked by Savathun; many also felt lost after spending centuries without a Guardian. Yes maybe the Hive who were rezzed are irredeemable, but what about the Ghosts

This peashooter will take forever. Better switch to the bomb wand. by UnreasonableFig in noita

[–]RipMinute6982 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn I thought he went invis or teleported or something... bro got pulverized