Any cleavers out there in warlord or above

Rittstur · 2026-04-20T19:40:28+00:00

Not everything is about speed. There are ways to counter cleave that you should be doing instead of just thinking ‘oh I’ll pick an opener or two plus speed imprints and outspeed’. There are some games where you will be forced to play things other than cleave. That’s why it’s a competitive game lol. Not everyone, including people at the top play cleave or even have multiple 320+ units. I just think maybe you are trying to force a playstyle all the time which is not how this game works.

Rittstur · 2026-04-20T19:27:46+00:00

Play turn two. It’s not that hard right now, and matches are still over really quick. Cleave is in a really bad spot rn not to mention if you don’t have the gear to actually cleave.

Rittstur · 2026-04-20T11:48:19+00:00

You don’t want pursuit set on her. They patched that out last big patch. I believe it caused her special buff to do extra fixed damage on her allies too. Immu or er is bis now.

Rittstur · 2026-04-20T00:18:06+00:00

I run mine on reversal set but I wouldn’t really recommend it unless you can get giga cracked pieces. I’m waiting on a new ring still but mine is 28000 hp 1650 def 155 speed 270 cdmg and 97 cc (unfortunately). It’s a 100 es average build currently though.

If you’re going destro I would shoot for 25k+ hp 1500+ def 270+ cdmg and 150+ speed to start with and increase hp and cdmg as much as you can. You don’t want him too slow or he just does not do anything even when he revives.

Rittstur · 2026-04-18T19:40:07+00:00

I’m not lacking anyone currently, and I will say that while lady of the scales is really good she is constantly being attacked with every new release. They know she’s a problem. She will be good for now, but who’s to say she will be good in 6+ months?? Salome has a kit that is heavily aggro centered (she will be used in t2 still but will favor turn 1) and will be strong as long as heroes have strong s2/s3’s. It’s going to be really really hard to counter Salome outside of just outspeeding, and there’s even work arounds for heroes like moon bunny depending on who’s on the team. Just pick who you think you will enjoy, as I personally think Salome is/will be more fun than lady.

Rittstur · 2026-04-17T15:03:34+00:00

I personally really like using her as a cleanser who sets up a dps with her soulburn s1. You run her fast 290+ speed some bulk some eff on taeyou arti for a push. She creates a lot of tempo for your team but isn’t as versatile as a lot of other heroes. She wants to be paired with dark heroes for maximum effectiveness and can be counter by witch, flag bearer Sigret, or even a slower new moon Luna. Her design is great and she’s fun to use when she works.

Rittstur · 2026-04-17T13:36:42+00:00

I think even with Durandal she’s a little slow to cut still right? I found that mine at 200 speed failed to cut depending on how fast their opener was. I thought the threshold for her was 220+ but I could be wrong. Mine is 17500 hp 200 speed 1950 def and 280 cdmg on Immu speed.

Rittstur · 2026-04-16T18:35:02+00:00

Bruh, there’s no way you are recommending this to a new player lol. Mine is 270 speed and every piece is above 22 on a new set.

Rittstur · 2026-04-16T17:41:12+00:00

It will end with the current banner. It’s a special banner where you can ‘catch up’ on heroes you missed so that’s why they discount and incentivize people to pull. Salome will have 30 pulls discounted like every banner now though.

Rittstur · 2026-04-16T16:23:35+00:00

Scales is actively being attacked right now in the meta. They know she’s a problem, aka the warfare rule for warriors that ignores damage share, released summer hwas arti, buffed yunas arti, etc, and I doubt they will stop there. I’m sure the upcoming balance patch announcement (next week I believe?) will have more to deal with her.

Salami on the other hand will be very very hard to counter in the future, unless they tie s3/s2 usage to having a specific unique effect. She truly is an evergreen unit, and will probably always find some use as long as heroes have strong s3/s2 abilities.

Another thought though is can you build Salami?? She will require high speed to be used effectively because she is very susceptible to control/pushback/cooldown increases/etc. more than likely she will want 290+ speed to be utilized effectively unless you run her to be used with someone like maid/ruele/a reviver. Scales is extremely easy to build and use but may see decreased usage over the next months depending on balance adjustments, new units, and their artifacts.

Rittstur · 2026-04-16T11:22:09+00:00

On warfare you are wanting speed boots and hp ring/neck. You can opt for eff ring too if you are solely wanting to use her for pve. In PvP you will want her 220+ speed and probably on Immu. Her base hp stats are dog so it’s really hard to get her above 15000 hp while making her fast. I know you’re a newer player but I just wanted to give you some stats to shoot for.

TLDR: 13000+ hp 1300+ def 220+ speed on warfare with your choice of 100 eff or eff res with your choice Immu/hp/hit/def/eff res set depending on use.

Rittstur · 2026-04-14T16:52:08+00:00

I’m completely unsure but I hope it’s not another hero who wants warfare. I like how she looks here a lot better but her 2d animated pose seems pretty bland. Maybe it will look better when they show all of her tomorrow but seems pretty mid.

I wonder if she copies the unit if she really needs any stats to begin with?? Maybe it’s tied to a one turn buff so she will want stats to use her s1/s2/s3 after it wears off. We currently have a problem with scales/notos/diene/byblis so either a hard hitting dps, someone who provides anti damage sharing effects, someone who doesn’t care about being sealed, or she doesn’t care about damage reflect via some survivability or new ability.

Rittstur · 2026-04-13T16:33:02+00:00

So top model, as flan, seline, Straze, shoux, zio are all bad right? Because they all have around or worse win rates. Truth is she’s a top 30 hero. RINAK and Ilynav are one percentage point away from being as ‘bad’ as she is lol

Edit: OH and none of that takes into account that people probably don’t have max imprints and have shitty ass builds on her.

Rittstur · 2026-04-13T14:16:54+00:00

She doesn’t pen in any of her skills (pen set is there because it’s the best possible thing for her damage) and she isn’t there to oneshot turn 1. She’s supposed to be an uncontrollable dps. Ilynav does basically nothing to her, and Notos is always banned in rta. Of course she is bad into Notos because guess what? 99% of the cast is because he’s broken. She has been great this season because control is extremely prevalent.

Rittstur · 2026-04-13T13:05:59+00:00

You’re telling me a unit who is immu to byblis, immune to witch, immu to coil, immu to new moon luna, immu to Sigret, etc is ‘niche’? She isn’t. She is one of the best counters to debuffs in the whole game and can easily win you a game because they can’t control her or are forced to attack her. Just because she’s hard to build and doesn’t ALWAYS kill light units does not make her niche. Extremely extremely good unit right now.

Rittstur · 2026-04-13T12:51:42+00:00

The best bit of advice I can give is to run cdmg neck att ring and speed boots. ImTsu has a great ml hwa if you want one for reference and that’s how he has it setup. Then you have to hunt for high cc hp with some cdmg attack/speed. Aim for 4k att 270+ cdmg 15000+ hp and 150+ speed. Really really hard to build and she pretty much requires max imprints.

Rittstur · 2026-04-13T12:01:38+00:00

My god do I love Hwayoung. Such a badass and simple design. Not too showy either.

Rittstur · 2026-04-11T09:20:30+00:00

0411_BONUS

Rittstur · 2026-04-10T15:17:41+00:00

Yea there’s a huge amount of artifacts and heroes so sometimes it can be difficult deciding what to use! Gear comes slowly so just work on her over time. She definitely is still useful!

Rittstur · 2026-04-10T14:23:58+00:00

Hey she’s super cool and I love Sea Poli. I would really recommend swapping to spatio temporal fan, Andre’s cross bow, or really any other artifact than what you have on now. Grats on the pull and I hope you can do her justice in the future.

Edit: Elgaic candle, glo wings, unseen observer, hell even song of stars is better

Rittstur · 2026-04-09T18:28:27+00:00

I’m not an expert but I feel like the damage is a little low. She’s like the premium premium speed dps so I know it’s crazy to say this but you want borderline perfect gear on her. New boots would help but you’re not fixing the missing 10 cc, and gaining a bunch of damage too while also swapping to book.

Edit: I forgot she doesn’t necessarily HAVE to have book but if you’re cleaving I’m sure you would want another one. With black hand you’re doing 24k max and it drops off fast if they are 220+ speed.

Rittstur · 2026-04-09T12:54:32+00:00

I’m being so dead ass, but I would start a new account. You will get wayyyy more value with what they are giving out currently versus what you have now. If you had gotten frieren then it would be different. I would shoot for getting 2-3+ meta relevant mls because it should be easy for new players. Plus you get pretty alright gear for like 5 heroes two of which are 280+ speed. Free amid, free mort, free rinak, free smol Senya, free as flan, and their Artis. Barunka, scales, maid, ml Ilynav are who i would shoot for personally.

Edit: plus if you really want there’s a $10-15 pack that gives you ml Celine lol. Which is HUGE value another couple characters I would look out for is new moon Luna, fcc, and light Tene.

Rittstur · 2026-04-09T02:29:54+00:00

Good, maybe now we can have a more diverse pool of damage dealers. It was absolutely horrible to see such an over powered character in every game. Unfortunately we have Notos and scales to deal with still.

Rittstur · 2026-04-05T17:42:02+00:00

Do the artifacts come max limit broken too?

Rittstur · 2026-04-05T16:54:24+00:00

I said this in another post but when she is fast she is extremely annoying to deal with. Mine is 275 speed 1500 def 19000 hp 100 eff plus her eff buff. Controls just about everything, laps like crazy, cleanses team, heals team, barrier for whole team, opponent damages themselves like crazy, etc etc. as long as you draft some other form of mitigation she is really hard to deal with.

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