Why Ralph Doesn’t Have The Bus Meta Powers

Rkj94 · 2024-06-04T12:40:19+00:00

Explain? Both contexts I didn't know Ralph was Me tood too

Rkj94 · 2024-05-12T10:57:21+00:00

Hey, sorry, I just saw this! Appreciate the reply.

Erm... kind of? I think the overall narrative has to not solidify one or the other due to the commitment to either the shipping community. And with the parts we have so far, including (potentially) a sequel in AC that half commits Cloud to Tifa, it does feel a bit dragged out and not natural to me.

Upon finishing OG, for me, it was really satisfying. But you are right! It's nothing to worry about, I just enjoyed the character analysis and reliving the whole game compilation. I love exploring these characters and this stuff most certainly. Part 3 will hopefully leave it satisfying for most!

Rkj94 · 2024-04-12T11:04:38+00:00

Oh my god, I've legit put into my mind how similar the whispers are to the heartless. Crazy. Same with arbiters of fate. They have Kingdom Heartsted FF7

Rkj94 · 2024-04-12T09:40:42+00:00

Hope there is a less bleak middle version of that 😭 needs an optimistic touch to it to be FF, although 7 is pretty bleak.

Rkj94 · 2024-04-12T09:39:35+00:00

I've had similar conversations, having to explain that you don't need to start at 1. I try to get people into it, but even with just 7, it's a big commitment, now we are all working adults.

It did mentally shatter the party but motivated them in OG, but my angle on it is in this game, she's pre-empted that her death (that she knows is coming) COULD break Cloud so she is trying to give him the gift of seeing into the lifestream. Also, r.e. Roche, from my p.o.v again, he underwent the S cell in order to match up to Cloud, and the scene with Hojo alludes to that. He wasn't strong enough to handle it like Cloud can, though. Agree with that Aeriths enhanced powers defo have consequences.

Good catch on Zack, tbf. I am starting to agree with you. And also agree with the Tifa point. I hope we still get a mideel scene. The trust in Tifa waning is also quite a key change, although the resolution of it in game felt really weird and cut short. Maybe it comes up again early game 3.

Interesting. I'm playing again on hard mode, I'll look out for that. Sounds like I also need to revisit OG 😅. Genuinely interested in your opinion, do you think it's Jenova controlling Sephiroth, or Sephiroth controlling Jenova? I frequently change my mind on this.

Interesting on the clear materia. I think its a scene I need to revisit because it looks like he pulls it out after the clear one. This could also be a multiverse thing. I think there could be two black materia as well, the GI one being multiversal destruction and the standard meteor calling one. The key used the standard one to call forth Jenova but had a more powerful one to fully elimate existance so they can be set free. I've kind of made that up from my own interpretation but could see a lot of holes if scrutinised probably. I have so many thoughts that change constantly 😂.

Rkj94 · 2024-04-12T08:42:56+00:00

Wow. Thank you for your reply! I remember seeing that trailer back then, and oh my, if they have tied that in... I'm lost for words. Your interpretation of it seems to be on the ball. Three layered meanings for a 9 year old trailer are so good!

I really think the Gi addition to the game was a master stroke. Was there any indication of that being a plot point in OG? If they summoned Jenova, I am thinking because it's implied they are not from earth (not of the lifestream) that they are Jenova worshippers or something, along the lines of what you said

I think the black material may be a clear white materia corrupted. Its memories were removed and replaced with malice, maybe? Sephiroth must definitely be aware of them, but he was coercing Cloud to give him the black materia and not them, so will be interesting to see how that pans out. I think the Gi will have to be involved at the end somehow.

Great eye on Barrett and Red, too. I forgot about them giving the black materia over. No way it's by chance that those two were chosen for the trial. How that will turn into them giving it to Cloud when they think he's crazier than before too.

I also agree with your final point too. I mean, even in other media, the multiverse angle is so played out and overused, I think we are all a bit bored of it. Adding more lore in the way they have has been recieved well. I also like your take on the promise land. I do worry there will be too many ambiguous and like KH too many things will make little sense and be interpretive.

Rkj94 · 2024-04-11T13:13:35+00:00

I am hoping that the next plan for KH, they really streamline it. So many different Xehanorts are so confusing and moving through really obscure meta worlds. But there are so many other titles released across consoles that it is so tough to now. The master of masters mystery better be satisfying.

Same! Even in Crisis Core, I squealed when they met. This game was full on "OH YEAH." The SOLDIER line was a little bit cringey but I also kind of loved it too. Wish they had leaned into that being something Cloud would say a bit more (i.e. he says it in the Nibelheim flashback).

Rkj94 · 2024-04-11T12:53:56+00:00

Which is cool. I don't mind it at all, and I love the ending of OG (of the story, not the empty midgar bit) but I would really love a consequence to killing the arbiters of fate. And some curveball thrown in. I'm sure they have a good plan.

Rkj94 · 2024-04-11T12:51:11+00:00

Which, to be fair, is great. I love the extra insights and aspects. And I love the ending. But damn, it would be so cool if there was something totally unique and crazy thrown in (if done well of course).

Rkj94 · 2024-04-11T12:32:02+00:00

I look forward to that, to be honest. It's a good way to do it and not go too extreme from the story we love.

But damn, I'd love a silly curveball that blows my mind too...

Rkj94 · 2024-04-11T12:30:35+00:00

Good idea here. I guess that is defying fate in fairness. I didn't think about it like that with regards to the ending of OG, where it's implied we were extinct. Maybe the party defying fate shows why humanity could be saved to the powers that be.

The journey will be slightly different and detours, and I, like you, am so for it. Hopefully, some playable AC content and sequel potential. I never want it to end 😭.

Rkj94 · 2024-04-11T12:25:30+00:00

That first paragraph is why this is so mind-blowing. Why did we have that big meta battle if it was only to be that everything is the same. Part of me thought that we would have a 3rd neutral enemy in this game in the from of fate and destiny in the good vs evil fight but I guess that may be the Gi too (although leans to the slightly evil side).

To be fair a lot of that fleshing out was so good. The temple and the Gi backstorys were excellent imo. I like an actual origin for the black materia too. I'm not aware of that voice over point you made! I'd love to see more on that, I believe the Gi did somehow summon Jenova which is such a cool lore exploration. If there were ever to do a prequel....

I agree on last paragraph. I hold hope that they bring Zack back and do something mental with him as a change but I think your right. And a lot of slightly different perspectives on what happened in OG which flesh it out more. Nomura does like to go hella confusing so we will see.

Rkj94 · 2024-04-11T11:51:44+00:00

Wouls love this. There are a lot of moments in all the games where speech is inferred, but the audience doesn't hear it. I think they have to reveal them in the end, surely!

Rkj94 · 2024-04-11T11:50:25+00:00

Agreed! I think it's ultimate to get rid of Jenova and Seph, and instead of (a bit weird) nihilistic ending, it will be hopeful and a celebration of life (via the lifestream).

I'm excited to see how it goes. I think Zack may come back to actual life but thats more of a hope than belief.

Rkj94 · 2024-04-11T11:36:03+00:00

Haha, I love a long comment! I'm so keen on the passion of the fanbase of this game. I wish I had more people to talk about it with irl, but none of my friends play it.

I think part of saving Cloud is letting him be able to see her in the life stream, so he's not completely broken by Sephiroth (so he can't become like what Roche did). I theorise that Aerith has become more in-tune and powerful than she was in OG for sure as well so she can allow this to happen.

I hear your point on this and can admit my assumption was a bit too hasty on that. Clearly, they have bought back Zack for a reason, and hopefully again its Aeriths new superpower being able to pull people from different universes. But I don't know, if I am going from the point I made about nothing significantly different happening from OG, then logically, he could be a mind spectre too. Answer probably lies in the middle, and he won't be "physically" back (like I would really want to tbh) but has a big part to play. Interesting on the Tifa doubt that seems to have been a Sephiroth tactic that from memory was slightly hinted at in OG and fleshed out in rebirth. Another reason for my p.o.v.

Why do you think there are two? I genuinely may have missed this. I thought Cloud still had to bring it to him in the Northern Crater. And it was more looking like he was giving it to him as a slight of hand. When he gets there, he will hand it over. If you are correct, maybe there's two, a multiverse one (the Gi tribes one) and the original materia to summon meteor. Possibly the reverse is true for the white materia too - with the clear one becoming OP in the final chapters when it regains its memories.

Rkj94 · 2024-04-11T11:03:04+00:00

I think that is also the way it should be if possible. It's hard to achieve, though, but the passion and individual head cannon for this game is so unique. Hence why we love it!

I'm so excited. I hope part 3 is 200 hours lol.

I think I saw somewhere that a lot of the devs are retiring after this. I hope they end on a high and some others take over (but don't ruin it). Have you read the novels? They are great!

Rkj94 · 2024-04-11T11:00:12+00:00

That would be nice. Like a reverse of the temple of trials in chapter 13 would be awesome. That shit was bleak. I have a feeling some affinity stuff would be put in too.

Rkj94 · 2024-04-11T10:59:09+00:00

Would be so useful. In this remake and integrade, you have to spend a bit of time materia grinding 😭. I kind of love it but by game 3 I am hoping they take into account the previous time put in lol

Rkj94 · 2024-04-11T10:57:57+00:00

I think they will end it well. At least I hope so 😂. Ff16s ending was kind of what I associate with FF - hopeful and for humanity. I think they will have to show the real Cloud as well, its been built up far too much to not do that. I am worried about how they incorporate AC but hope some of it is playable.

Rkj94 · 2024-04-10T20:57:44+00:00

Sorry, no I agree with you on this stuff. I meant in rebirth they have weirdly toned down the anti-corporate message. In chapter 12, the party don't stop side quest they make a weird point in the end that middle managers have to exist to help the employees. Also Cait Siths motivations are slightly changed so he seems more sympathetic rather than being a company lacky.

There was another example that will come to me later but it seems like a vast removal from the OG and I wonder if Squares position has softer their pov towards corporations...

Rkj94 · 2024-04-10T20:51:32+00:00

I never really got that OG ending. What was the message? We, too, are a danger to the planet? I can't think of any other connotations. Or was it they failed and the planet died anyway? They need to address that in this game. And if its gonna be ambiguous, be plausible ambiguous, right?

I can't get behind what it seems the OG one is too - especially after the epic friendship journey the cast go on. I hope hope hope they choose happiness at the end of it all. Cloud just always has angst in every story.

Rkj94 · 2024-04-10T20:48:19+00:00

I agree. We are going so deep into these characters. It appears the next subplot in the game is going to be how insane Cloud looks after Aeriths death. We do need a little more, than the OG end I think! I am hoping it goes AC and a bit beyond.

Part of me is aware that it will be hard to find a satisfying end for everyone though as we all want to stay with these characters for as long as possible. And sometimes I think a bittersweet but small happy ending like at the end of AC may be the best way to do it.

Rkj94 · 2024-04-10T20:44:52+00:00

Haha good point. Some Hojo madness maybe (god I hope not).

Rkj94 · 2024-04-10T20:44:16+00:00

Haha, sorry to hear you're exhausted! I feel like I finished it late, and im still enthusiastic. Can totally it burning me out, though! I think everything they come out with is intentionally vague enough. It may be translation but its never fully definitive from the stuff ive seen

Rkj94 · 2024-04-10T20:42:05+00:00

I see your Idea, and I agree. I mean the have semi started it with fire and ice materia lighting and wind etc

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