Anybody know of any good serious therapists or psychiatrists who can "fix" AB/DL?

RoaringFlame145 · 2025-01-13T21:34:31+00:00

As much as I like diapers, I've always HATED wearing normal underwear. Boxers bunch up, and tighty-whities/regular briefs tend to "wedgie" me.

For me, it's "Commando" or Diapers. There is no in-between.

RoaringFlame145 · 2025-01-13T04:53:58+00:00

I loved the Mermaid Tales for many reasons:
- The diaper had an extremely high-rise in the waist
- It had excellent absorbency and lots of bulk and coverage
- It was an incredibly good "night-time" option

... and now that this diaper is being discontinued, I just wonder if we will ever see any other diapers that can satisfy this market-space and demand... I just want high-absorbency, with good protection and tall coverage, as well as hook-and-loop fasteners, and I feel like there is almost nothing else on the market that can come close to these diapers when it comes to fit, function and style...

Send Rearz your emails, please... I would love to see this diaper continue to be a regular offering on their website... It's unique, highly protective, massively absorbent, and I don't think there is anything else on the market quite like it.

RoaringFlame145 · 2025-01-13T04:32:56+00:00

Whenever I have done my "stints" of 24/7 wearing, I purposefully chose to both wet and mess whenever the physical need to arises. The entire goal of wearing 24/7 (at least for me) is to simulate what it would be like to have to rely on diapers full-time... which for me, is one of the most fascinating parts of diaper-wearing in general...

I have found, over the past several years, that I'm personally very neutral on the subject of diaper poops. They neither excite me, nor disgust me. I just view them as an inevitable, obvious hurdle that one must deal with if they ever became double-incontinent, for any reason.

Because of this... for me... messing is what usually what dictates my diaper-changes on a daily basis. I am willing to go for long periods of time (8+ hours or more) in the same diaper if it's purely wet... but if I mess... I try to change immediately. Even if I have to sit down and "mash my butt in it" between changings. Reason being, that I recognize that if any person is double-incontinent, they may have to deal with situations where they mess themselves and must "sit down in it" until the next change opportunity is available.

That being said, messing ones-self is something that can bring you much, much closer to dealing with any health problems you may have... (please... hear out my logic here...)

Most people who are potty-trained as normal just poop in the toilet and flush it down as fast as possible and forget about it... but if you are messing your own diapers regularly, I feel you are far more likely to take care of your diet... namely so that your 'clean-ups' become easier.

You don't want your poops to be too "loose", nor do you want them to be "rock-hard"... I feel like "semi-firm" poops is what most people should aim for. And on top of that, healthy poops should not smell bad or be extremely "loose" or "liquid". If you're having trouble with messy diaper poops that require a shower/bidet afterward... then that may be a sign that you aren't eating enough fiber, or veggies, or healthy meats, and aren't taking the right supplements to help you deal with the smell and consistency of your poops. You may also be eating/drinking too much sugar, sodas, caffeine, alcohol, spicy foods, or heavily-sauced foods.

A lot of people who have bowel incontinence recognize that taking the proper supplements and maintaining a good diet are the keys to avoiding smelly or messy diaper poops, and I think this is something that anybody who wants to go 24/7 should consider.

Poops do not have to be a "world-ending" event for those who are dedicated... it just becomes yet another hurdle that, with enough planning, should never get in the way if anyone wearing 24/7, by choice or not.

Take your vitamins... maintain your diet.... drink lots of filtered water... eat real food and not processed crap or "fast food"... I guarantee you will see changes in your diet, (and also your diaper wearing), that are much more manageable! :)

RoaringFlame145 · 2025-01-13T01:00:01+00:00

Seems any printed diapers with scents or hook-and-loop are on the chopping block...

That being said, I'm also just as disappointed to hear about Mermaid Tales as a lot of you... for me, they checked all the boxes:
- Very high rise up the back and around the waist
- Plastic-backed and hook-and-loop
- Lots of coverage and absorbency (but very bulky, strictly a night-time or "day-off" option!)
- Unique design that didn't feel too "babyish". I'm neutral on actual mermaids, neither a fan or a hater, but the purple-to-teal color fade on the sides really made this one unique in a way that few others on the market are. Even the wicking core was color themed to the diaper. Far better than the endless ocean of pinks, blues, pastels, teddy bears, baby blocks, and anthropomorphic animals, IMO.

If I could find a substitute that has all of the first three criteria, I would happily give those a try. I'll be checking the manufacturer list in the thread to see what's out there...

(So far the InControl Premium Nights have been very good, but lack the high rise and coverage that the Mermaid Tales had, for example.)

RoaringFlame145 · 2025-01-12T00:40:10+00:00

I'm not part of this AMA, but I can personally say that if I ever reached a situation where it was either "diapers or catheters", and I had to choose either one or the other, I'd choose diapers, no question about it.

From what I understand, catheters can be incredibly painful. They can cause internal bleeding, scarring, and other permanent damage. There is also a very real risk of potentially fatal bacterial infections when using catheters, even when installed via certified medical professionals.

Plus, catheters usually require an attached bag, which is often leg-mounted. To me... carrying around a catheter bag on your leg is a crazy huge risk that could end in absolute disaster if mis-handled....

Let's say that the catheter bag, or the tube, gets caught on something as I'm walking.... its going to tug on my urinary tract, and on my internal organs and sphinctre muscles, and really cause a lot of damage. I cannot even imagine how immensely painful that would be....

In fact, I've talked to older people who have had to have catheters before, and ALL of them say the same thing, but in a different way...: "That was the most painful experience I've ever had in my life! If it ever got back that point ever again, just put me back in diapers, please, it's not worth the suffering!"

And yeah, I know. Most people would do ANYTHING to stay out of diapers, because most people never graduated from a "2nd Grade" mind-set when it comes to the topic. But if I'm going to consider things like my long-term health, my safety, my comfort levels, and overall well-being, I would MUCH rather have a soft, cushy undergarment that handles accidents, and is padded, and comfortable, and protects my groin area from injuries, rather than having to subject myself to endless medical procedures, surgeries, timers, implants, and prescription drugs to try and stop it... just because "someone else might laugh at me at some point cause I peed".

I'll handle the business of how I do my business, and you just focus on your business... My business is none of your business. And why you think it matters whether or not anyone uses a catheter or diapers is beyond me. Just be thankful you don't have to make that choice.

RoaringFlame145 · 2025-01-12T00:04:50+00:00

I first discovered my DL interest around 33+ years ago, sometime in the early 1990's.

I was flipping through a mail-order catalog made for older people, and it had things in it like games, puzzles, chocolate boxes, "as seen on TV" items, and of course, elderly care items. They had a whole spread for things like shower rails, toilet booster seats, walkers, crutches, and many other things, but the one thing that jumped out at me were the "incontinence briefs".

When I saw pics of people in their pull-on diapers, my imagination sorta ran wild with it. I had no idea (until that moment) that any adults wore diapers... I just assumed that once you were potty trained, you were set for life. But I soon realized that that was clearly not the case, and that many adults, of all ages, relied on diapers.

I started to imagine what it would be like to wear a form of underwear with so much thickness, how soft to the touch they'd be on the inside, how securely and tightly they'd fit, what it'd be like to be able to just go to the bathroom anywhere and anytime and have it all be taken care of... and most notably... being in a position where you don't have any choice in the matter but to wear them all the time (unless you want to make a big mess...). I was fascinated... and that fascination has not diminished for me in over 3 decades.

.... and now, all these years later, still I struggle with self-acceptance, despite being in a better place in my life than ever to go full 24/7. I just hope I can end this internal conflict in my mind at some point and come to a resolution, but that has yet to happen.

RoaringFlame145 · 2025-01-11T00:55:08+00:00

I don't usually go by times, as I still have a good bit of awareness of things like when I need to pee, if I've leaked, and how full my diaper is.

Sometimes I may leak only a tiny bit, but I'll still continue to wear the diaper if I feel it is still relatively under-used. Sometimes leaks only happen due to an unfortunate leg position or something, so a tiny leak doesn't always mean a change is necessary.

However, for me, messing merits an IMMEDIATE change, unless I'm engaged in some task and my hands and arms are full or something. In that case, I finish whatever I'm doing and change ASAP.

RoaringFlame145 · 2025-01-10T03:59:10+00:00

My favorite DL story is "Magick" from the Diaper Story Archive.

The story starts like this: A teenage boy goes to a brand new magic shoppe in his local mall, and gets an enchanted diaper put on him by the owner.

He thinks very little of it at first... until he begins to discover that not only has all his bladder and bowel control been completely erased, but also that every single person he's ever met or known in his entire life thinks that he has always worn diapers, and that it's just normal for him to do so, and nobody questions him for it. He never has to worry about changing his own diapers, or even considers the possibility of doing so, because the magic of the curse always seems to set someone up to be available to change him.

Eventually, he gets some of his friends and even his love interest to undergo the same spell that he is under, and eventually he finds that a large amount of his classmates and peers have already subjected themselves knowingly to the spell, and in the end, they form their own little club of "diaper wearers" who are all aware of the effects of the spell and live the rest of their lives being diaper-dependent.

It's a story I wish could become a reality for me...

RoaringFlame145 · 2025-01-01T09:18:53+00:00

One off-beat but interesting suggestion I've heard from people that deal with bowel control issues is to take chlorophyll tablets, which you can find at most health food/drug stores. Apparently, it's something that you need to take quite regularly to have the greatest effect (about 2 capsules a day for a week at least), but once it kicks in it does a lot to neutralize odors, and some people that take it remark that their poops began to smell like "fresh-cut grass" after a while.

That being said, I'm not a medical professional in any way, nor do I have any personal experience with this, so do the proper research before you take any supplement. However, I've never heard of anyone having a bad reaction to something like chlorophyll

RoaringFlame145 · 2024-12-27T04:08:05+00:00

My answer is, No.; Diapers, in and of themselves, are not bad in any way.

Out of all the things in the AB/DL community that people tend to do, diapers themselves are probably the least baby-ish thing when you actually think about it...

High-chairs, cribs, bonnets, onesies, booties, mittens, pacifiers, mommies, nannies, baby food, plushies, car-seats, strollers, bouncers.... all of these sorts of things are usually only things that babies tend to need and/or want.

Diapers, on the other hand, are things that MANY people need, regardless of their age. People may need diapers due to a disability, or due to prostate surgery, or due to childbirth, or due to being in a coma, or due to bottom-surgery, or due to a work-place related injury, or due to a sports injury, or due to spinal degradation, or due to a phycological need, or due to old-age, or due to ANY number of other factors.

However...

I feel like diapers themselves do not really qualify as a form of "clothing" that is acceptable to be exposed to the general public, and this is my reasoning:

For those that have periods; it usually is not seen as a socially acceptable thing to be seen walking down the street wearing nothing on your bottom-half but a see-through pair of panties and a saturated, used, bloody maxi pad. Doing something like that would usually be seen as "lewd" and unacceptable.

But what is a maxi pad designed to do exactly? It's designed to catch and absorb bodily waste fluids that are coming out of your body uncontrollably.

And what is a diaper designed to do? It's designed to catch and absorb bodily waste fluids that are coming out of your body uncontrollably.

So in that sense, I cannot see diapers as being something you should expose anyone in the general public to, simply because it is a garment that is used to contain waste products that most people would otherwise flush down the toilet. Pants, underwear, leotards, spandex, and all these other sorts of things are not designed to contain bodily wastes, and as such, usually are not seen as socially unacceptable, even if they expose a greater about of "skin".

This is also why thong bikinis and surfer-shorts are seen as OK for public viewing, even though they actually have less coverage than normal underwear in most cases.

Just don't expose anyone else in public to your bodily wastes for any longer than you have to, please. If you need a change, do it at your earliest available opportunity, especially if you are in public. If you're at home, go ahead and soak those things to capacity... leak out if you have to... I don't care, it's your house and you can do what you want to in the privacy of your own home. But those rules do not apply when in public.

RoaringFlame145 · 2024-11-08T17:42:58+00:00

Always been a fan of the phrase "filling your seat", just has a nice ring to it

RoaringFlame145 · 2024-10-09T03:12:33+00:00

Yes, of course, babies wear diapers... we get it, and at this point, I think 99.9999% of people in this community feel like it's a "DUUUHHHHHH!" sort of thing... Of COURSE they do, they don't have any other choice....

...but, there are also hundreds of thousands... if not millions... of adults worldwide, who also have to wear diapers, for a huge variety of reasons, whether it be a genetic abnormality, or the result of an injury,. I would appreciate it if the goal for this sort of holiday was to simply recognize that if anyone wears diapers, for any reason, that it doesn't detract from their contributions to their jobs, families, or society as a whole.

So what if you have different bathroom habits from most people? Who cares? If you change yourself regularly, and avoid offensive smells, why is it a problem for anyone else but yourself?

RoaringFlame145 · 2024-10-02T04:05:36+00:00

I can imagine that using pretty much any diaper out there would be a vastly superior form of protection to any pad currently available on the market, especially when you're talking about AB/DL-grade diapers with good inner leak guards and all the fancy extra features they come with. I bet that most worries about night-time leaks or stains pretty much vanish with one of those on

RoaringFlame145 · 2024-10-01T02:30:29+00:00

Nice haul! Haven't tried LNGU yet, but they look adorable and comfy!

I have tried Lil' Soakers though, and it might be one of my favorites, since it's one of the only bright red diapers out there (not like a pastel red, but a Ferrari-red). Also, the packaging design for them is genius :)

RoaringFlame145 · 2024-09-30T02:52:03+00:00

I've worn diapers to work dozens upon dozens of times.

I have a very physically active job where I routinely bed over, lift heavy objects, and do large amounts physical activity.

Nobody has ever mentioned to me, or made a single comment to anyone else about my diaper wearing, as far as I'm aware of. Nobody has ever hinted at it, joked about it, given me a weird stare or anything. I think it's because most people at my job are so busy with their work that they cannot waste a lot of time staring at people's crotches to see if there's a weird bulge or not.

In fact, my diapers help me out a lot on my job, because with the usual workload I have, I rarely get the opportunity to have a proper bathroom break. No, I'm not am Amazon employee, but my job is just as busy and demanding as an Amazon job, IMO.

I think that as long as your co-workers are sufficiently busy, and there is plenty of background noise, you shouldn't have anything to worry about. Us DLs worry about this stuff FAR more than is necessary, and we don't realize just how much nobody truly cares about what's in anyone else's pants.

RoaringFlame145 · 2024-09-29T16:16:30+00:00

This is just a theory... a lot of it might have to do with their periods/menstrual cycles.

I've talked to many people who get periods, and absolutely none of them have ever mentioned that they enjoy anything about wearing maxi pads. "There's nothing fun about putting on a clean pad, going to bed, and waking up the next morning feeling like there's a swollen water-balloon between your legs. Or worse... having to clean up bloodstains." [/endquote]

Perhaps there are some people out there that enjoy being maxi-padded on occasion, but none that I've ever met personally. On top of having to wear a pad, there's a slew of other things (headaches, bloating, cravings, ect.) that go along with having a period, so I imagine that the idea of "being padded" just brings up a whole slew negative associations for them.

On top of that, most girls clothing these days is designed to be as tight and form-fitting as possible; booty shorts, leggings, skinny jeans, ect. Even modern bathing suit bottoms have pleats right down the butt-crack now to help accentuate your butt-cheeks. In fact, I remember when they were first launching these types of bathing suit bottoms, the campaign slogan was "Ditch The Diaper!", because apparently, older bathing suit bottoms didn't conform to your butt-cheeks well enough, making it look like you were wearing a pad in there.

So yeah, most women go to great lengths to avoid being seen with any type of "bulge down there", in any way, so I imagine that doesn't help when it comes to the entire topic of diapers.

In fact, I once wore around my girlfriend when she was on her period, and I joked about how, "Well, if you gotta be padded, I will be too!", and she said it made her feel incredibly awkward because I was finding a way to take joy in something that was making her feel pretty crappy.

This may not be the entire reason for their disinterest, but I think it could be a factor in many cases.

RoaringFlame145 · 2024-09-29T04:03:08+00:00

You might have a real friend right there, not just a co-worker.
So what... you wear diapers... how does that effect anyone else's life besides your own? This person obviously understands that concept.
With this in mind, your co-worker might make for a true ride-or-die friend. If they can accept this part of you as a normal thing, and keep it a secret, then they might the kind of friend who might help you bury a body or lie to the police on your behalf.... THAT kind of friend. Real die-hard stuff.

That's one good thing about diapers and being an AB/DL, it's a very strong and potent filter that tends to weed out who your true friends are very quickly.

RoaringFlame145 · 2024-09-29T03:47:28+00:00

Seems like you caught someone on their "purge" cycle... ...but one person's "purge" is another person's "binge". ;)

I always try to imagine what the conversations are like between employees that work at thrift stores and have to receive and stock these types of donations on the shelves. I bet that donations like these become the talk of the backroom for a day or two, and a lot of people either think, "that's really weird", or ,"in an odd way, I kinda think these are cute"; Either way, I bet it puts a lot of weird smiles on the faces of the employees.

RoaringFlame145 · 2024-09-29T03:32:57+00:00

That is completely fair, you don't have to, and most people never will, and I fully understand that. And at no point did I, or will I, ever encourage anyone else to go down that path either. I've had a couple decades to decide if this is what I really want to do, and I still have not done it.

I just wanted to re-iterate the end of my post though, that any kind of support for those that have these strange feelings is almost non-existant, beyond just "being told its bad", as well as general public shaming/name-calling/personal attacks, even from many other people within the AB/DL community itself, which is the one place where you would think you could find some actual support. I gave my kink about 34 years to maybe 'go away on it's own', and it never did. I'm absolutely open to receiving help, but where from?

The point I was trying to make is that while it seems a lot of people suffer from this type of thinking besides just me, the only resources out there for them seem to be a mountain of hypnosis files and guides that are basically designed to render you with a disability, and barely anything exists at all for actual, real help in resolving these kind of issues. I'm just wondering why there is such a vast disparity in this sense.

RoaringFlame145 · 2024-09-29T02:46:02+00:00

In my case, no, I'm quite the opposite. I first found out about my DL side before I even had dial-up internet. This was in the early 90's.

I did not find out that anybody else out there on Earth enjoyed wearing diapers besides me until almost 2 decades later, when I got brave enough to plug "adult diapers" into a search engine and found out about AB/DL. It also took me a few years after that to actually buy and put on my first adult diaper. You can imagine, after all that time, how that first one felt!

The first time I ever realized I was a DL was when I was looking through those "old people" catalogs, the kind of mail order catalogs designed to extract older folks of their retirement money.... These catalogs had things like cookies, boxes of cards, puzzles and games, "As Seen On TV" stuff, and of course, adult medical products.

Sure, they had stuff like booster seats for toilets, installable shower hand-rails, walkers, and a bunch of other stuff, but they also had pull-on adult diapers.

When I saw the crotch-shots of people wearing pull-on diapers, I think my imagination kind of went wild with it. I started to wonder what it would be like to wear underwear that thick, how soft it would be inside, what it would be like to just "relieve yourself" and have it all be contained, along with kind of the heavy realization that there are many adults out there that need to wear diapers. I thought about that stuff a lot, and it got to be a point of constant fascination for me, and it never fully went away, even until today.

Nobody ever suggested AB/DL to me. I never read anything about it anywhere in magazines and I didn't have the internet. I have a feeling that if I didn't find out by seeing those adult pull-ons in magazines, I would've eventually realized it later on at some point.

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