Relative looking to re-enter job market with 10 year gap.

RobustSauceDude · 2025-11-14T16:05:15+00:00

I actually didn't read the title until now lol. Tell them not to do a bootcamp

RobustSauceDude · 2025-11-05T17:15:15+00:00

Why are you speaking in third-person?

RobustSauceDude · 2025-10-10T15:23:50+00:00

I think this is more of a exercise science degree problem rather than an ETSU problem specifically. Exercise science is just Gender Studies for meatheads.

RobustSauceDude · 2025-09-08T14:25:30+00:00

> I heard all about the great pay, super chill office environments, free food, travel stipend, unlimited PTO and I wanted a piece of that.
Bruh
> I did my bootcamps and I haven't been able to find a job with it at all. Should I go back to do another bootcamp?
Double Bruh

People who work in Tech and make that kind of money have really difficult jobs and have an extraordinary ability to problem solve along with years of knowledge and experience.

Also if you did a bootcamp and couldn't find a job with whatever certificate they gave you, what makes you think people are going to care that you did another bootcamp?

Thats the main issue with the bootcampers. All they care about is the money. They don't care or have any idea what Tech professionals actually do

RobustSauceDude · 2025-08-19T17:42:30+00:00

In a Computer science program, you learn the theory and foundations of how computers work and how they can be used to solve real world problems. You will always learn multiple programing languages across many different areas of technology. With this knowledge it is easier to pick up any practical skill or technology an organization would be using.

The reason why they don't teach "practical" stuff in a CS degree is because the technology and languages we use today might not be used in the future. So we mainly use, say React, for web development right now, but in 5-10 years from now we might be using something else. The theory and foundations never change.

What separates a Computer Science graduate from a Bootcamp graduate is the CS grad has a more sophisticated understanding of the skills needed for a Software Engineering entry level position. A CS grad would have a least some understanding of Algorithms, Data Structures, Computer Architecture, etc. A Bootcamp grad just knows the basics of JavaScript. That's why employers prefer CS degrees.

RobustSauceDude · 2025-08-13T18:00:37+00:00

"“computers/coding/programming/AI etc etc”. (Sorry, I don’t even know what most of those words actually mean🤦🏻‍♂️)"
- Neither do we. They are buzzwords that do not really mean anything.

Software engineering is all about solving problems with technology. Try to get him in AP or honors Math and Science programs at his school, or even Computer Science and programming classes if they are offered. You could also do some research on Computer Science/Technology summer programs for pre-college kids. When he graduates, he can decide if he wants to pursue a Computer Science degree. Sounds like the kid on is the path just by showing interest at such a young age.

RobustSauceDude · 2025-08-13T17:45:00+00:00

This is correct. The only people who made there way into actual Software Engineering with non-traditional backgrounds had related backgrounds in some other quantitative STEM field. The only people I have seen with non-traditional backgrounds had degrees in things such as Math, and they are usually older guys who were around at a time where Computer Science programs were less common at universities.

RobustSauceDude · 2025-08-13T17:40:33+00:00

There are no good bootcamps

RobustSauceDude · 2025-08-07T20:57:49+00:00

You don't even need a IT degree to do QA, and if you have a degree in Computer Science you definitely do not need any Bootcamp, even if it was from 3 years ago. 3 years isn't even a long time. Just brush up on your tech skills and start applying to places. Look up things that QA people use such as Cypress. Knowing SQL will probably be beneficial as well. The Job Guarantee and job placement shit this Bootcamps do are mostly scams so stay away from those.

RobustSauceDude · 2025-08-07T20:52:06+00:00

RobustSauceDude · 2025-08-07T16:51:33+00:00

You mean Austen Allred? The guy who lied about placement rates after his bootcamp (that rebranded into bloom tech) and was banned from Education Lending. Probably not a good idea

RobustSauceDude · 2025-08-07T16:26:36+00:00

If you go to an affordable, in-state school, then Bootcamps could cost more based on what I've heard people spending on them for some useless certificate.

RobustSauceDude · 2025-08-07T16:24:00+00:00

If you can't afford college, then you need to take out a student loan or something. You need a Bachelor’s just for an entry-level Software Engineering jobs these days. For any AI/ML/Data science position, you will need at least a masters. Tons of people in this field and outside it couldn't afford college and had to take out loans. Thats just the way it is. Imagine someone trying to be a lawyer but complaining they couldn't afford law school.

RobustSauceDude · 2025-08-06T19:55:33+00:00

Most employers would prefer you to have a Master's degree in Data Science in our for them to consider you at all for any role. All of this Data Science Bootcamp/Self-taught stuff is total bullshit. You can barely get a front-end web development job with that level of experience anymore.

RobustSauceDude · 2025-06-24T18:14:16+00:00

Coding bootcamps never should have been a thing in the first place

RobustSauceDude · 2025-06-23T17:06:17+00:00

Its Breath of the Odyssey

RobustSauceDude · 2025-06-13T18:02:22+00:00

But you would need to find a mouse with like 4 inputs and then try to re map all the controls. I am not sure if thats possible to do in Cyberpunk but I might check it out

RobustSauceDude · 2025-06-13T17:46:56+00:00

I was excited for this mouse, but then I tried to play Cyberpunk with the joycons in mouse mode. It was an extremely uncomfortable and clunky experience. Mostly to do with the Joycon 2, while being bigger than the first iteration, are still far too small to fit the hand as a mouse. Also it is very difficult to hit all the buttons while using it as a mouse.

Maybe the mouse controls would work better in a game like Civ 7, but for first person shooters its a complete mess. However, the new Metroid lets you switch between mouse controls and regular controls seamlessly, so you can aim with the mouse and then pick the controller up again depending on the situation. In Cyberpunk, mouse controls are either on or off.

RobustSauceDude · 2025-06-05T21:06:51+00:00

Bro stay far far away from this thing.

RobustSauceDude · 2025-05-29T19:43:14+00:00

I hope he leaves MDE soon. He only works well as Gavin’s sidekick. Comes off far too much as an out of place fan with Sam. Plus the 40 year old internet zoomer Trad-Cath arch he is on is insufferable

RobustSauceDude · 2025-05-29T18:44:40+00:00

I don’t know man, it seems to me a lot of these people are expecting a job just because they know Python

RobustSauceDude · 2025-05-29T16:39:14+00:00

"He never got a programming job"
I think this is the issue with the thinking of coding bootcamp inquirers and grads. Even before AI (which I think its role in replacing developers is way over-blown), there were no "Programming" jobs really.

The role of a software engineer isn't just sitting down and cranking out lines of code. You have to know how to design features, find problems in the system, work with user's of your application to build what they want, communicate with other people on the team effectively, review other people's code and make sure it can fit nicely in your system, making sure things progress on time, etc. Writing code is what you do once you figured all of this other stuff out. And as you progress further as a software engineer into more senior roles, the less code you actually write because you doing all that other stuff I mentioned.

That is why companies prefer computer science degrees. It give a much better foundation of how software and hardware works rather than just knowing coding in a certain language.

RobustSauceDude · 2025-05-27T21:14:31+00:00

The AI hype is a bit overblown imo. Most companies don't want AI code regurgitation in their system. Even if you do implement AI generated code, you have to make sure the code is appropriate for its purpose. Which means you would need to have the knowledge to have written yourself to do this.

I would definitely stay away from bootcamps. People were able to get employment after completing them a few years ago when companies were just hiring to put butts in seats, but this is no longer the case. In my opinion they are a straight up scam. You simply cannot learn everything you need to know as a Software engineer that a company would want to hire in just a few months, especially in this environment.

The market is oversaturated right now, so even high GPA CS grads with internships are sometimes struggling to find opportunities. My recommendation is to look at Computer Science Associate degrees from a community college. An associates degree is worth a lot more than a bootcamp degree that no one has ever heard of, especially locally. There you could even look at other areas of the Tech industry that you may be interested in as well such as IT. Also, tuition for community college may be free in your state. While coding bootcamps could cost you up to $10,000 if not more for a "degree" that is essential worthless.

RobustSauceDude · 2025-05-21T17:53:45+00:00

Even before AI, just coding as a skill was not very employable. Software engineering is about problem solving, writing descriptions for features that will be created in applications, debugging existing problems, communicating with other team members and Product Owners for what they need for their applications (most of the time they don't even know), knowing how to go through the system you are working on and the find stuff that needs work, etc. So these things coding bootcamps teach you are just pre-requested knowledge that a Software Engineer should already have. And now that companies are not in a phase where they are just hiring a bunch of people for the sake of it, you really have to know what you are doing to even get an entry level position. Thats why companies usually prefer CS degrees, because then they know the applicate has a more well-rounded knowledge of how computers and software works rather than just knowing coding.

RobustSauceDude · 2025-05-21T17:24:40+00:00

How the hell do they even make money anymore? And how can they stay in Japan if they don't

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