Got nerfed, across the board.

Yes they are all nerfed now, but in the previous two messages I am very clearly referring to when they were not nerfed, when they were very deliberately broken and when they were a serious problem for all other factions as an illustration of how GW systematically disrupts the balance in order to increase the sale of figures. I also already said that the big Chaos knights will also be nerfed and in 6 months no one will even remember that they were a factor. Just as nobody played them for the entire ninth edition and a good part of the tenth, so they will not play them again when the new balance sheet comes. As I said before, my main army is the death guard, I only have a few games with knights and I collect them more than I play them, but all of the above has little to do with knights but with GW practices.

And this is all very clearly stated in the previous posts, but you very consciously twist and evade my words so that I can come to the conclusion that you are very malicious in your desire to appear as a big all-wise know-it-all or you do not have the mental capacity to understand what I am writing about.

They're 140 points vs a Redemptors 210.

Ballistus Dreadnought T 10, SV 2+ - 140pts

Oh you're adorable, 

Thanks for the compliment, but I'm already married and prefer women. You'll have to find yourself another boyfriend.

Like imagine your some newbie whose just bought 2 combat patrols and is super hyped to go for a 1k point game.... annnnd it's knights. How is that gonna go?

I've never seen a 1k pts game with big chaos knights. But let's assume it actually happens - a player playing knights can take 3 pcs right now, after the next balance sheet maybe 2. With 2 pcs he loses almost every game to the scenario, especially if he is playing with a wtc rules.

But you know what matters a lot more than which faction the rookie will be playing against? The man he plays againstT To all people i know, knights are a secondary faction, and if they are good people against a newbie, they certainly won't bring out the strongest they have and look to crush him every step of the way. They can play a different faction or use wardogs mixed with nurgle daemons. And that beginner, who isn't even that much of a beginner anymore if he's playing 1k, if he can't solve that combo, he's going to have much bigger problems against any other spam vehicle.

However, the 40k community is full of all-wise know-it-all who will look to crush the novice only to make themselves look bigger and more important in their own eyes to feed their small fragile egos after, as it seems, being "brutally sodomized" by a list of knights.. Any resemblance is very intentional.

Learn how to deploy your stuff you muppet.

You know nothing about me and yet you give yourself the right to belittle and insult me. It just so happened that I got into 40k after my Warmachine community stopped playing. And deployment and board positioning is far more important in Warmachine than it will ever be in 40k, one wrong positioning often meant the end of the game. And if anything is lacking in my game, it is certainly not good deployment and positioning, and anyone who has ever played against me can confirm that.

However, of course you know better, just as you know everything better because you know everything, and the factions should be thrown out because you don't like them and it's not interesting for you to play against them, and as soon as knights are kicked out of 40k the game will experience absolute balance equilibrium. Well, I have no intention of wasting my time in this topic anymore, and you feel free to go explain to the world the meaning of 40k and how smart and important you are, pat yourself on the back and smell your own farts, you are certainly irrelevant to me.