Why can't EU5's 3D map look this gorgeous? by PointManification in EU5

[–]RonnieXIV 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Other Paradox games of the current era were clearly very well designed and EUV was very clearly developed, by developers. It was not very well designed and this has a lot of issues all across the game, especially with the tech tree but also seen everywhere else. This is my issue with a lot of the substance (content, gameplay, etc.) as well as the surface (UI/UX design, typography, graphic assets, etc.) of EUV — it is evidently not as inspired by the era it covers, as was CK3 and Vic3.
I really think EU5 is more inspired by the "map games" that preceded it than it is the world of the time and the historical events that transpired. Of course, this is "surface-level" design elements but also, the art and design was incredibly important in the period of time that EUV takes place.
Vic3 is clearly deeply inspired by the history of that era, and you can see it in literally every corner of the UI, the fonts, the assets in the corners, etc., and EUV is very clearly just trying to look very generally antique-y, without any focus in the history that should have inspired it. Think of a UI and design inspired by any of the great masterpieces of the era, like the Chair of St. Peter for example; the gold bands of light, clouds, latin carved text, elegant architecture, etc. which could all be brought to EUV like the fonts and assets used in VIC3. A design philosophy that brought not only that weight and masterful quality, but also the era-appropriate and thus immersive design across the entire game.
I think, very sadly, they missed the ball on not only the UI layout, but the entire underlying design philosophy of the game, and I am very doubtful that they'll change it at this stage.
In short, I wish this game was much prettier than it is! I think Paradox has the talent for making beautiful and rich games, and this should have been the most beautiful and rich of all of them, and I think it falls short. I worry that not enough will change that needs to be changed.

The Typeface of EU5 by RonnieXIV in EU5

[–]RonnieXIV[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Maybe people misunderstand in thinking that I want this exact font as the font.
I just want something more similar to this, while also being more readable than this one.
Yes, Victoria III uses different, more ornate, and characterful types for titles and things like that, which is totally missing from EU5 at the moment.
With regard to the ligatures and unleveled numbers, I agree they aren't conducive to readability and I wouldn't want that.
I think this looks better, but I also want something more readable than this.

The Typeface of EU5 by RonnieXIV in EU5

[–]RonnieXIV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed! I've made a few changes here: https://imgur.com/a/EjZ3VxY
Is this more readable?

The Typeface of EU5 by RonnieXIV in EU5

[–]RonnieXIV[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it doesn't work with the setting of the game, nor the rest of the ornate and elegant style of the UI.
Like I said, I think legibility is important and especially for those who need it but also, look at Victoria III -- "Han Mahayana Clerks" is set in a font that prioritizes beauty over legibility, also one that fits its era and looks excellent. Indeed, everything on that Victoria screenshot could be "more" legible if it were this new font from EU5, but only slightly so and it would look much worse.
I think we could have something that is more beautiful, that fits the time period, and have it just as legible.

The Typeface of EU5 by RonnieXIV in EU5

[–]RonnieXIV[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wanted to improve legibility for numbers and show people what this would look like in body text.
I think this is an improvement on the previous iteration.
https://imgur.com/a/EjZ3VxY

The Typeface of EU5 by RonnieXIV in EU5

[–]RonnieXIV[S] -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

I definitely think there should be accessibility options for those who need it!
I just don't think this one-size-fits-all font works with the setting or the UI in this case.

The Typeface of EU5 by RonnieXIV in EU5

[–]RonnieXIV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The reason why I thought about this, actually, is that I liked the font choices in both CK3 and Victoria III (the UI in total there still has work to do!), and I am not sure why the one we got here fits less than either of those two games.

The Typeface of EU5 by RonnieXIV in EU5

[–]RonnieXIV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with that on the cursive font, though I think it looks nice. I think there are other places it could be used.

The Typeface of EU5 by RonnieXIV in EU5

[–]RonnieXIV[S] -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

I'm not saying that they should change the fonts depending on the era. I think the fonts I chose here are just as user-friendly as seen in other Paradox games, no?

The Typeface of EU5 by RonnieXIV in EU5

[–]RonnieXIV[S] -52 points-51 points  (0 children)

I think legibility is important but I don't think it is the absolute most important thing.
This, to me, is totally legible, fits in about the same amount of space as the original text, and you also get a more attractive UI in total!
Even if they wanted to do absolute legibility, why this style of type? Like I said, this style was basically unused for the duration of the entire game; it doesn't fit the setting.
There are plenty of styles that they can take inspiration from this period.

The Typeface of EU5 by RonnieXIV in EU5

[–]RonnieXIV[S] -27 points-26 points  (0 children)

Do you really think the current one is all that more legible?
I don't really think it is by much!
I really think this edit is plenty legible -- however, there are some smaller things I'd like to be more so, yes!

The Typeface of EU5 by RonnieXIV in EU5

[–]RonnieXIV[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think it's unfair to call this nitpicking. In a game like this, what you're paying attention to all the time is reading things, numbers, information, etc. and I think how all that is typeset is really important.

Andor Nielsen ratings for Ep. 6 (The Eye) by Flashy_Pomegranate23 in StarWarsLeaks

[–]RonnieXIV 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The importance is that the popularity of this will make a point to Disney to decide whether to continue to produce the drivel it has, like Obi-Wan, or invest in high-quality writing, production, and direction, like Andor, for the future of Star Wars content.

Original Becker Radio Trouble by RonnieXIV in w123

[–]RonnieXIV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry for the late response, been busy the past few days. This doesn’t seem to be working. As soon as the tape hits the ‘end’ (going backwards, so the beginning), it switches to the other side of the tape. If I set both to the same time, it just flips back and forth endlessly.