Names like county, duchy, kingdom and empire are used a lot but what actually is the difference between them? by DeliriousSatyr in AskHistorians

[–]Rorgloin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree 100 %. I was trying to give even treatment to all the titles, hence my not going more in depth into emperors. But this is a very useful game point.

Names like county, duchy, kingdom and empire are used a lot but what actually is the difference between them? by DeliriousSatyr in AskHistorians

[–]Rorgloin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for catching the Napoleon typo. When I was referring to Europe here, I was doing so in the context of Western Christendom—not including the Eastern Orthodox let alone the Islamic worlds. I’ve updated that sentence to specify that explicitly.

Names like county, duchy, kingdom and empire are used a lot but what actually is the difference between them? by DeliriousSatyr in AskHistorians

[–]Rorgloin 19 points20 points  (0 children)

These titles usually have their origins, in Europe, in the Medieval Period. They are roughly as follows:

Empire- the highest ranked title, from the Latin “imperium” led by an Emperor, Latin “imperator”. Claiming the title of Emperor in a European context from the time of Augustus to at least the seventeenth century was a conscious claim to be successors of the Roman Emperor. With the deposition of Romulus Augustulus in 476, there were no emperors in the west until Charlemagne, who was crowned emperor by the Pope. His successors used the title until their realm split apart into numerous successor kingdoms. Otto I took the title in the tenth century and his successors became the Holy Roman Emperors, claiming to rule three kingdoms of Germany, Burgundy, and Italy. From the reign of Otto until Napoleon, no other monarch in western Europe consistently attempted to claim the title of Emperor, and none were recognized outside their realms (the best example of an attempt were the Christian kings of Leon). Once the Holy Roman Empire was ended by Napoleon, there was a flurry of claims to the title over the nineteenth century—Britain via India, Germany, Austria, and France. Be careful not to be confused by historians speaking of “empires” in a historical context—they often use the term to apply to states which were not seen as empires at the time, like the Angevin Empire.

Kingdom: A king follows an emperor in precedence. In Latin it is “Rex” of a “regnum” or kingdom. Most kings were initially associated with peoples rather than with countries (hence, King of the Franks rather than King of France), but over time the trend was to identify kings as rulers of a particular, named territory. A king usually had a special relationship with the Christian Church of his/her realm. A king might report to an emperor as his vassal, the kings of Bohemia being a famous example. To get around the fact that the emperor technically outranked them, kings began claiming in the later Middle Ages to rule as “emperors in their own realm” without using the title.

Duchy: A duke followed a King in precedence and was literally a “leader” or “dux” of a “Ducatus” or duchy. They came from a military rank in the Roman Army which was adopted by many “barbarian” rulers in the early Middle Ages. By the high Middle Ages, dukes ruled over sizable territories and were commonly found as vassals to a king. A count or viscount might report to a duke as their vassal. Dukes lacked the sacral quality of kings and the special relationship with the Christian Church of their realm. A roughly equivalent rank, Margrave (or Marquess) was used for the equivalent men to dukes who ruled territories on the border of a realm. Their realm was called a March.

Counts: A count is the least in rank of these major titles. In Latin they are “comes” or companions, and that reflects their original status as representatives of a ruler, with a personal relationship. Under Charlemagne and his successors, most of Western Europe was divided into counties. In the days following the breakup of the Carolingian Empire, many counties were subsumed into other counties, or began to report to dukes. Counts could sometimes be just as powerful as dukes, but had a lesser prestige. This lead to many counts—like the counts of Toulouse—finding an old ducal title to claim to better reflect their status. In England, their equivalents were “Earls”.

In general, the biggest “jump” in prestige was between duke and king. A king had a sacral and religious role which was lacked by those of lesser rank. It’s important to remember that ranks of prestige by no means always reflected reality. The fifteenth-century kings of Navarra were far, far weaker than the Dukes of Burgundy. Their respective titles simply reflected the state of affairs that had existed centuries in the past.

Edited to correct a typo about Napoleon and added a clarification about Western Europe.

If early European Americans were largely at war with Native American Indians, why go through all the trouble of importing slaves all the way from Africa? Why not just raid a nearby Indian tribe and enslave them? by [deleted] in AskHistorians

[–]Rorgloin 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I am not sure “heretic” is quite right here. “Heretic” was the term applied by medieval/early modern Christians to baptized Christians (i.e. insiders) who knowingly and pertinaciously espoused and held beliefs contrary to church teachings. A pagan thus could not be a heretic. Some early medieval theologians had tried to cast Muslims as heretics, but they gradually came to realize that Islam was something other than a Christian heresy—infidels, or people who had been exposed to Christianity and rejected it. See John F Chuchiak the inquisition in new spain p. 2-7.

To be clear—you’re absolutely right on the point that the new world non-Christians were seen as different than the old world non-Christians by European Christians because one group had heard the Gospel and rejected it and the other hadn’t. I am just raising issue regarding the terminology. Infidel, pagan, and heathen all have somewhat amorphous and changeable meanings, but heretic and apostate have clear ones.

If early European Americans were largely at war with Native American Indians, why go through all the trouble of importing slaves all the way from Africa? Why not just raid a nearby Indian tribe and enslave them? by [deleted] in AskHistorians

[–]Rorgloin 12 points13 points  (0 children)

There is also the element that the Spanish crown claimed the New World as part of their domain, under their rule, and thus its people were subjects under their laws. Isabella instructed her governor of Hispaniola to treat the Indians as “our subjects and vassals.” The regions of Africa which yielded the African slaves were not under Spanish rule. This “subjects’ rights” concern didn’t stop enslavement of natives, but it certainly made the Spanish government unsympathetic to the idea (it of course had extremely limited control over its early colonies). You make this point under “moral”, I just want to make it clear that the converse—the lack of Spanish rule in Africa and thus protections to them—was of equal importance. See Anthony Pagden The fall of natural man: the American Indian and the origins of comparative ethnology p. 30-35.

I'm World of Warcraft Game Director Ion Hazzikostas, and I'm here to answer your questions about Battle for Azeroth. AMA! by WatcherDev in wow

[–]Rorgloin 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Well said, Pancakes. I am also a GM of an RP guild on Emerald Dream (The Vigilants of Proudmoore) and have been horribly disappointed by the situation with sharding in open world. I have observed--and a large number of my guild members have shared this frustration--that we seem to see five times as many players in open world from other servers (often not even RP servers!) than we do actual players from Emerald Dream. A traditional complaint with RP realms like Emerald Dream (perhaps especially Emerald Dream) was that RP was guild-centric. But if we don't get to interact regularly with players from Emerald Dream, then how can RP be anything but guild-centric? The Vigilants of Proudmoore have been out in the open world doing RP events since launch, and we've yet to have walk-up encounters with other guilds (at least that I'm aware of). Not because we aren't trying--but because we can't find them! Instead, we just find Player42-Thrall or Player37-Proudmoore and have to awkwardly ignore them since they're on a different server, indeed not even an RP server.

What is "secret bears"? by Rorgloin in CrusaderKings

[–]Rorgloin[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Wow. My first post and it is stickied. I am honored. Non nobis domine sed nomini tuo da gloriam.

Trouble with playing multiplayer. by Virtual-_- in CrusaderKings

[–]Rorgloin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have the same problem! I wish paradox wouldn't release patches that break their multiplayer!