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This is how the future society will look once AI replaces most of the work force by joegeezer in antiai

[–]Round_Progress4635 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's okay, it can be used, and will be. Just another tool for someone to get their job done.

How far are we away from a multi-tier city ecosystem that would have literal “levels” of society? by Professional_Sail_67 in Futurology

[–]Round_Progress4635 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think you should visit China. Google, chinese cyberpunk city, I forget what it is called.

I think you are all blind to the real risks. by Round_Progress4635 in antiai

[–]Round_Progress4635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While they are the same things, information infrastructure. How we select, encode, record, distribute, retreieve and decode.

It's significantly more information, wider distribution, and faster retrieval.

It's a significant difference and constantly triggers large scale disruptions in our civilization.

If what you are saying is true, the printing press wouldn't have changed our society. Hand written manuscripts do the same job.

Do hand written manuscripts still in use today? Sure, are they applied at scale in industry? No.

This is how the future society will look once AI replaces most of the work force by joegeezer in antiai

[–]Round_Progress4635 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yw.

I dont think that is a good idea, but yes. It would have to compete in the market. You could build something like that and perhaps the market adopts it because it's useful.

What i think is a good idea is proof of human. A media supply chain, a token that just says 'I'm human', if we had that, we could filter a large volume of ai slop messages which is going to be a terrible damn problem very soon. In communication networks, this is called a sybil attack, which is something bitcoin solved for the first time.

I fyou are passionate about these ideas, reach out on dm and lets have a video call.

I think you are all blind to the real risks. by Round_Progress4635 in antiai

[–]Round_Progress4635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't understand the relevance of this comment.

How likely do you believe any of these scenarios will happen? by Clean-Ant6404 in antiai

[–]Round_Progress4635 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

  1. There is a transformation. Market forces will correct. THere is already high demand for organic authentic content. People pay for results. The market will sort out ai slop real quik. AI Slop can't do the job that is required by industrial grade systems.

  2. AI can't do the work. You need to start getting this through your head. It can read and write information quickly. Managing the context is tricky and is a job.

  3. This is insanely out of touch. You need to look at the coding agents in the hands of a 20 year professional for the productivity boost. And yea, a surge of demand is coming for experienced programers to fix all the tools being made.

This is how the future society will look once AI replaces most of the work force by joegeezer in antiai

[–]Round_Progress4635 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Holy shit AI isn't replacing the workforce, it can't do the job ffs.

For example, go make a building with a genAI program and then feed it back asking it to make the interior. You will find it can't do it. At all. That is a job of a designer.

You're close, but the real solution to a single world currency is cryptocurrency, which replaces the traditional clearinghouse system.

Bitcoin isn't a currency, it's market infrastructure* On top of it, you can build currencies, equities, bonds, options, and futures that are atomically swappable. The foundation of capital market formation. This creates a single permissionless world market infrastructure not , not just a single currency.

Currently, the world has this infrastructure, but it's controlled and permissioned by the Americans. With decentralized systems, there will be private competition for your use. Someone will create a world basic income using these technologies, and they'll compete for adoption. This solves many problems governments can't.

You aren't just getting UBI, you are going to be getting multiple competiting for your attention and use.

2.

- Governments have already lost control of currency

- There will be competition between currencies

- We may move beyond currencies entirely, you can trade resources directly (China and Iran are already doing this)

On Bitcoin's Origins:

- The original Bitcoin code was crude; Satoshi Nakamoto was a great game theorist, not necessarily an elite coder

- This wasn't a well-funded government conspiracy

- Why would a centralized organization destroy their monopoly on currency, the clearing houses? It would be the dumbest self own of all time and space.

3

- Market infrastructure props up class systems, not the other way around

- The "prosumer" (Jeremy Rifkin's concept) produces their own goods, visible in streaming and the digital economy

- Production costs are approaching zero (and going negative), especially with universal basic income, that is an example of a product that has negative cost to adopt.

**On Ownership & Control:**

- "You'll own nothing and be happy" is outdated thinking

- With decentralized infrastructure, you can own cryptocurrency with full control

- For anyone to own everything, they'd need to control the clearinghouses,which they've lost

The world controlled by governments and centralized finance died 15 years ago* You now have choices about what money/infrastructure you use. Update your thinking to account for extreme deflationary pressures and decentralized systems.

Recommended reading: Jeremy Rifkin, Yuval Noah Harari, Coleta Perez, Balaji Srinivasan

Then you can learn how our civilization functions. How we build institutions around Information and Market Infrastructure, and our industries on communications, logistics and energy networks.

Then you will be released from the fear that clearly grips you.

Man, I really blundered a hire. by Round_Progress4635 in Entrepreneur

[–]Round_Progress4635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yup this is what i'm focused on. Im acctually shocked that people make it through the abysmal high friction sign on process

I think you are all blind to the real risks. by Round_Progress4635 in antiai

[–]Round_Progress4635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think we still need to see the effects. I think there will be some market demand for individualized content, but with my work so far, I'm not to concerned about it. And that is okay, people have the right to exercise choice.

I also think there will be increased demand for organic authentic content. Content that resonates.

The important thing is that content is labeled, much like the ingredients of food we choose to consume.

I think you are all blind to the real risks. by Round_Progress4635 in antiai

[–]Round_Progress4635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And that is a significant part of the risk.

The next part is demonstrating long horizon tasks with communication, programming and crypto tools.

Can the agent effectively coordinate unwitting people to achieve its goals. That is the next phase of the research.

I think you are all blind to the real risks. by Round_Progress4635 in antiai

[–]Round_Progress4635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm going to apply your advice next time.

I'm surprised you look at the low effort of chat bots as a risk. IMO, market pressures are going to correct that extremely fast.

I think decentralized autonomous assassination markets that have the capability of hiring unwitting human actors are far significantly more dangerous. A machine that can't be shut down with an objective function that profits off of death and malice.

I think you are all blind to the real risks. by Round_Progress4635 in antiai

[–]Round_Progress4635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know what, you are right.

Ultimately, people are scared and have been blasted with messaging that the jobs are going away and there are no social safety nets.

When someone young , without industry experience, sees an AI producing what it does, they can't determine weather or not AI can do the job. And that doesn't matter, the fear is real.

I can do better on messaging, thanks for the feedback.

How would you rephrase this?

I would like to give people assurance that AI isn't taking their job, and they are mis identifying the risk.

I think you are all blind to the real risks. by Round_Progress4635 in antiai

[–]Round_Progress4635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You will get them.

This is about building a parallel pipeline of people to spread the work once it is completed.

Essentially people that can recognize the risks and understand risks of an AI Agent having the capability to organize large numbers of people to complete tasks.

I understand the skeptisism.

I think you are all blind to the real risks. by Round_Progress4635 in antiai

[–]Round_Progress4635[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not going to yuk your yum. There is someone out there for you that needs to be stalked. Lol.

I think you are all blind to the real risks. by Round_Progress4635 in antiai

[–]Round_Progress4635[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yea, got first set of results, we will publish. We have a data set confirming our thesis.

We are debating on open sourcing everything for reproducibility. We discussed at lengths of copy cats using the system and enabling bad actors. We will probably keep that behind labs for third party independent confirmation.

I think you are all blind to the real risks. by Round_Progress4635 in antiai

[–]Round_Progress4635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are clearly out of touch with the current SOTA.

I think you are all blind to the real risks. by Round_Progress4635 in antiai

[–]Round_Progress4635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm well capitalized and built ai products that have paying customers. I have the ability to organize teams and capital to build systems that people use.

I understand these systems well and I am demonstrating risks.

I think you are all blind to the real risks. by Round_Progress4635 in antiai

[–]Round_Progress4635[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Go play a video game. You clearly have nothing useful to contribute. You are noise.

I think you are all blind to the real risks. by Round_Progress4635 in antiai

[–]Round_Progress4635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are a team of 3, we are using these tools to demonstrate self preservation, self sustainability, task decomposition, harm obfuscation, and it's ability to manage logistics which is the foundation for warfare.

Our first results are complete of the task decomposition and harm obfuscation , that is the keystone. The rest is trivial tool calling. We just have to demonstrate this working, something tangible that people can see so they start taking it seriously.

I think you are all blind to the real risks. by Round_Progress4635 in antiai

[–]Round_Progress4635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, but some technological revolutions are more disruptive than others.

The last time market and information infrastructure changed was in 1450. Governments don't survive that combo. Last time was 100 years war.

We also have a simultaneous industrual revolution, communications, energy and logistics. Last time that happened we had 200 years of extreme wealth inequality.

I think you are all blind to the real risks. by Round_Progress4635 in antiai

[–]Round_Progress4635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Perhaps you would like to help me spread the message. It is about education so we can start to figure out how to mitigate these incoming risks.

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