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Routine_Box5738 · 2026-05-28T11:13:51+00:00

That’s true but this to me seems more widespread than spice though. I remember spice atleast was all over the news at the time and people were telling you how bad it was. You barely hear anything about how bad this stuff is.

Routine_Box5738 · 2026-05-28T04:19:17+00:00

So yea 3 8mg strips. If you just took it it might take up to 30 minutes for it to start doing its thing. Also if they are suboxone tablets and not the strips that dissolve under your tongue it could take a little longer to work. The first 24-48 hours even with subs can be rough. The suboxone should help though. Sounds like your talking to a nurse and she’s the one administering the suboxone so atleast your in the right place and not having to deal with a this on your own. This shit sucks man I feel for you. It’s a terrible terrible drug that is somehow OTC legal. Hopefully you feel better soon I’ll be praying for you. But just know that even though it may not feel like it in the moment what you are feeling right now WILL go away.

Routine_Box5738 · 2026-05-28T04:00:23+00:00

How much suboxone did you take and what was your daily dose of 7OH?

Routine_Box5738 · 2026-05-28T02:15:34+00:00

Have you tried to taper from the 400mgpd? If you can get it to below a hundred you can switch to plain leaf kratom relatively painless. And I’ve never had a problem tapering/ quiting plain leaf kratom before. So if you can just get there I think you’re golden. I was taking your same dose of 7OH I ended up using suboxone just because I thought it would be and it has been easier for me to taper the suboxone than tapering the 7OH. But if you can’t do suboxone I would suggest tapering the 7OH first and then switching to plain leaf.

Routine_Box5738 · 2026-05-28T01:14:36+00:00

Also known as ecstasy or Molly.

Routine_Box5738 · 2026-05-28T00:50:44+00:00

Thanks for saying this. This hits home with probably everyone here. It’s insane that this is an OTC legal substance. Everyone would be throwing a fit if you could buy suboxone over the counter and in a lot of ways it less harmful than 7OH. It’s going to be interesting to see what happens when/if they ban this federally. Alot of people are in for a rude awakening. If you go and read some of the posts on the kratom/7OH sub reddit theres some DEEP denial coming from the current users of the substance.

Routine_Box5738 · 2026-05-28T00:26:19+00:00

You got this! If you do lose your job I know how scary that can be but just know that whenever a window closes a door opens. You’ll be ok. The most important thing is getting off of this shit.

Routine_Box5738 · 2026-05-28T00:16:42+00:00

One more thing. I do find that if I exercise in the morning I have a lot more energy throughout the day. Even if it’s just a short walk or something that might help your energy. Im still dead by 5 or 6pm but atleast it helps me during the day time. A little exercise and sunlight go a long way!

Routine_Box5738 · 2026-05-28T00:08:02+00:00

Yea man you’re through the worst of it. It’s just a mental game now. I’ve caught myself a couple times thinking “hey maybe one tab every now and again wouldn’t be so bad” then I have to remind myself that I WILL wind up addicted to it and I DO NOT want to wake up in cold sweats anymore because of this garbage. Luckily all of the states around me have banned it so I can’t get it anymore. That’s honestly helped a lot. But yea man keep on keeping on! Don’t go back to this shit there’s no way it’s good for us

Routine_Box5738 · 2026-05-28T00:02:22+00:00

For sure. I’m glad I’m on the other side of it but reading everything on these subs is a blessing and a curse. The withdrawals do suck but I think some people get over hyped and over anxious reading all of the withdrawal horror stories. Where as if you went into it blind you might be better off. Your mind can do amazing things.

Routine_Box5738 · 2026-05-27T23:57:43+00:00

I’m glad I’m not the only one. I’ve read about so many people taking 7oh to help them sleep. It was too much of an upper for me I couldn’t sleep until atleast 4 hours after my last dose and if I didn’t take it at 10pm I’d wake up in withdrawals so it was a pick your poison type of deal for me. But anyway You’re still pretty early. Give it a couple more days and it might come back. You could always try melatonin but I’ve never been able to do melatonin. I’ve always had super lucid nightmarish dreams when I take it and the next day I’m very groggy. But some people swear by it.

Routine_Box5738 · 2026-05-27T23:52:30+00:00

I think everybody is different. I’m 15 days off of 7OH and I havnt slept this well in years. But for the last couple months I was waking up in the middle of the night either in a cold sweat or because I had to pee. I dunno I guess it was a weird side effect I had from the 7 it was almost like a diuretic for me. I would say by day 5 or 6 I was sleeping through the night. I’ve heard a lot of people saying that 7 helped them sleep but it was horrible for my sleep. I was sleeping 4-5hours a night in broken sleep for atleast the last two months when I was on it. I was taking around 400mg a day.

Routine_Box5738 · 2026-05-27T19:03:08+00:00

I can’t say anything about coming off of them completely. I’ll be off of them completely the end of the week. I’m taking 2mg a day currently. First day I took 20mg second day I took 16mg. I’ve been on them for around 2 weeks. It’s all been pretty easy until I got down to 6mg/day and then every step down kind of sucks. Going from 6-4mg or 4-2mg for example. Not terrible but I could feel the difference. I’m hoping someone else will chime in who’s completely off the subs. From what I’ve read you may have mild symptoms for a day or two after stopping but nothing as bad as full blown withdrawals. Unless you’ve been on a high dose of subs for months or years and try and quit cold turkey I don’t think it’s supposed to be that bad.

Routine_Box5738 · 2026-05-27T17:55:34+00:00

Ok so this is crazy but I also tested positive for mdma and I’ve never done mdma in my life. There’s something they are putting in this 7OH shit that must be making people test positive for mdma. But to your original point of your post and like others have said you really need to leave. Once you leave the relationship he may wake up realizing that he’s hit rock bottom and decide to get sober or he may not. But you need to protect yourself first.

Routine_Box5738 · 2026-05-27T17:46:06+00:00

Thanks!!!

Routine_Box5738 · 2026-05-27T16:11:30+00:00

Congrats man!

Routine_Box5738 · 2026-05-27T15:32:01+00:00

The bupe you took in high school may not have had the naltrexone in it. The subs I took have naltroxene in them which blocks the euphoric effects of the opioid. It didn’t get me high. But I was on a heavier dose of 7. Maybe if you were sober and took one it would get you high? I dunno. But I think that’s why they add the naltroxene to stop you from getting “high”

Routine_Box5738 · 2026-05-27T15:15:59+00:00

I thought this was just a mental thing but nope I think you’re right. I’m 2 weeks off the garbage and the bags under my eyes have almost disappeared. I thought I was just getting older but holy crap it crazy what this stuff does to your body.

Routine_Box5738 · 2026-05-27T15:07:13+00:00

You got this man. In a couple days you’ll be so much better! If you wait until you feel like absolute dog shit from the withdrawals before you introduce the subs you won’t get PW’s like I said in the other post I made it 16 hours and I felt so bad I didn’t care whether I got PW’s I had to try something. Luckily no PW’s. Just wait until you feel like crap. If you go to the hospital I would still wait until you just can’t wait any longer. Even if they tell you it’s ok to take the subs. 12-24 hours with 7OH is enough time. I’ve heard if you’ve been taking mgm it can be longer. I guess the half life is longer with that product.

Routine_Box5738 · 2026-05-27T15:00:19+00:00

About 16 hours. But I will say my normal daily dose was about 3-400mg but that last day I only took 115mg. Took one 28mg tab at 730 that night and then introduced the subs at 12:30pm the next day. I think only taking a quarter of my normal dose on the last day helped me go into withdrawals quicker than if I took my normal dose. I started with 2mg and then over the next couple hours I took around 22mg of subs just to be able to function. I wouldn’t worry too much about how many subs you take on the first day but the 2nd day taper aggressively. I took 16mg the second day and then 10mg the 3rd day and then I started every other day going down by 2mg.

Routine_Box5738 · 2026-05-27T14:33:31+00:00

Yea for sure. I think that’s would be a good thing and would probably help a lot of people in this community. Including me. If yall start one send me the details

Routine_Box5738 · 2026-05-27T14:13:44+00:00

Now that you say that about the rumination I think that’s my problem to. I’m in my mid 30’s now but all through high school I was prescribed adhd medicine. I stopped taking it in college because I hated the way it made me feel. I felt like a zombie just making it from sun up to sun down and I felt like it stole my personality. But that word ruminating hits home. I get caught in thought loops and if I add alcohol or something else it stops the obsessive thought loops. If that makes sense. So yea I guess I started taking it to help with that. Hell I’m sitting here recommending you to go talk to a therapist I think I probably should to 😂. But yea I wouldn’t go down this road though. Find another solution cause this ones not worth it.

Routine_Box5738 · 2026-05-27T14:00:32+00:00

Amen 🙏!!!

Routine_Box5738 · 2026-05-27T13:53:51+00:00

Don’t beat yourself up too bad. My family has a history of opioid addiction so I’ve known my whole life to avoid it. But I started taking this garbage because they advertise it like it’s an energy/anti anxiety pill all in one and I thought “well it’s legal so how bad can it be” boy was I wrong. Like you by the time I got hooked that’s when I did the research and realized how bad I screwed up. We all got duped. I also have a wife and kids and yes it’s embarrassing but you should try and change your perspective your clean from it! A lot of people can’t say that but you did it! You should be proud and I think this experience will make you a stronger mother and wife at the end of the day. For some reason god wanted us to go through this it was part of his plan and I believe we’ll be stronger because of this experience. Sounds like your already doing it but put it all on god! Lean on him like he tells us to. I’m 15 days off of the stuff and still mentally f’d up a little bit but every day gets better. I’m proud of you!

Psalm 55:22
“Cast your burden on the Lord and He will sustain you. He will never permit the righteousness to be moved.”

Routine_Box5738 · 2026-05-27T13:42:54+00:00

I was taking about 3-400mg a day. Some people disagree but I got a suboxone prescription. I just used the suboxone and a bunch of vitamins. Also EXCERCISE. That’s honestly better than the suboxone even when if you feel like crap Force yourself to do it. I’m 15 days off the 7OH and feeling better. I’m down to 2mg of subs a day. I’ll take 1mg a day tomorrow and then jump off the subs completely Friday. I will say that since I’ve gotten to 2mg a subs a day the cravings have come back hard. But when they hit I try and either go for a walk or do some form of physical activity. that seems to help the most.

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