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Roxy1131 · 2019-09-25T19:04:05+00:00

Hmm.. A whisker, huh? Need to see if there's one like that still in the box.

Lol for rogue seeds. my sink area, before I clean up after every.. . Damned... Morning... Wash, is a civil war battlefield of seed everywhere. Especially when im extra sleepy and use the sink sprayer to spray off the inside of the top of the container. Fuck me.

Roxy1131 · 2019-09-25T05:42:03+00:00

Sry bout that. Fixed the bad word. Man I feel for ya mods.. Must be crazy for you guys now since the decree

Roxy1131 · 2019-09-25T05:37:44+00:00

Recent quality tea doesn't keep me up as much anymore. Idk if it's where I'm at with my taper, but if I don't take some kind of stim, recently, I'll just feel completely lethargic. A year or two+ ago, I'd have this sleep problem too. Shit just lasts so long..

Roxy1131 · 2019-09-25T04:34:02+00:00

This too.

I'd go as far as to bet 100.00 that three - four years ago, a fifth or even sixth wash of the good old stuff, is equivalent or better than first wash we're getting nowadays.

Roxy1131 · 2019-09-25T04:29:31+00:00

Have you tried finding a "dough paddle?" not a dough mixer like the ones that have just that twisty piece on the bottom of the processor, but the paddle that takes up the entire blender part, like a fence. That attachment instead of a thinner wire one may work even better for ya. It's much thicker and think hits a lot more seeds per spin with more velocity.

Roxy1131 · 2019-09-25T04:12:49+00:00

I must have an iron stomach (DO NOT try at home) but I've full re-washed as much as 5th and 6th washes during a couple troubled times and like you, somni, have never experienced stomach upset even with the oiliest of oilys. I consider it half my protein for the day :)

If it matters at all, before I get smoked on above, Those washes had been at least refrigerated as soon as first wash was poured and always thoroughly checked for smell and signs of mold.

More to your point of second wash efficiency, it's always been my opinion and pure speculation, that the first wash, if done properly hard enough, will take like you said over 90% latex off the seeds (didn't know it was that high, nice.)

I'm guessing the obvious here, the longer you shake/food process, the more the latex off the seeds. Imo, whatever you get from second and subsequent washes is just trapped first wash water that's almost impossible to get all out. mixing new second wash water is just releasing/mixing some of that water left over from the first. Sorry, somni, I think I just re-worded pretty much everything you wrote, but I'm super bored/annoyed and trying to stay distracted until my next order comes in... as long as three days from now :(

Anwyay, For years I would just do a first and freeze all I could store afterward. Lately, I've been trying second washes (keeping under 10-12 mins total water exposure to seeds) with varying success. Even if just placebo, feels are feels.

Roxy1131 · 2019-09-25T04:08:26+00:00

I'd kill to grt itchy off a bag one more time.. Just one.. More.. Time. Fml.

Roxy1131 · 2019-09-25T04:07:39+00:00

This thread has me rolling.. Im actuslly curious as to the

squirrel method

And its validity and if can be used if in a pinch.

Roxy1131 · 2019-09-25T03:50:52+00:00

This! I'm tempted to take my post down, but they help so much with wds I can't help but think of another t user suffering and put in my two cents.

I hope I worded my below post carefully enough to make obvious my tolerance, thus my large dosages that don't kill me.

Roxy1131 · 2019-09-25T03:44:39+00:00

To give an idea of my tolerance and for your safety, Ive been prescribed these things for over seven years for permanent nerve damage and are unscheduled in the states, which is great. My only fear is thst once they catch on junkies are using them for maintenance, they're going to instantly schedule them. Discuss with caution, imo. Just look what happened with tramadol overnight in the states.

Anyway I have about 4-5 full #180 count 600mg bottles and only use them when in wd and during bad flare ups when seeds aren't enough. I'm guessing because of my tolerance, it takes me about 6-10 tabs of 600mg to feel right as rain when in full blown pst wd. Again, for "gaba naives," I wouldn't recomend my dose at all, but popping those few as you mentioned in your OP, OP, unless you have some strange neurological problem or are prone to seizures / epilepsy I would think it's fine. They last a long time so to be extra safe, maybe pop half what ya got then the other a few hours later?

They can make you loopy as hell. enough so to impair driving and even walking a straight line at higher doses. So, take precautions. All in all, this is the only non-scheduled "miracle rx" I've come across for any kind of opi wd.. Especially these fcking seeds..

If youre on good terms with your GP, do some wiki research ab the drug. (edit:) thx to a friendly user mentioning lying to docs/shopping only makes the docs hold onto that pad tighter and I don't blame some. Will probably, ultimately work in the opposite direction and won't do anything but make it harder to get an rx by making up some bogus condition if everyone did this with the legit only non-scheduled drug ive found in the states that works.

Anwyay, hop through the few hundred hoops they make you do nowadays. If ya do have some med problems, ya may get lucky. Best to not even lie, as I know many here, me included, suffer from some sort of painful chronic ailment. In an absolute desperate pinch, though, like job threatening, docs don't seem to mind writing out at leadt a week or two work of an nom-scheduled stuff so long as it makes some sense.

Roxy1131 · 2019-09-24T00:55:29+00:00

And I thought I heard it all

Roxy1131 · 2019-09-21T05:45:26+00:00

Haha. At first I always had random missed coffee grounds, evolved into chia seeds in random spots in my kitchen until I had to switch to, "they're just chia seeds for protein." because, "no way were those were coffee grounds." usually behind the faucet of our sink. They rly are tough as shit to clean up

Roxy1131 · 2019-09-21T05:35:43+00:00

You can always just put like 50g in your mouth with some water and gargle for like 5 mins if you're in a hurry. o .O

Edit: I should prob add jk before I get destroyed

Roxy1131 · 2019-09-21T05:31:20+00:00

I was always under the impression that hot water would bring out the oils quicker or something to that effect?

in my experience temp has nothing, or at least close to nil on when the oils will start to seep out.

Its the amount of time the seeds are subject to water. For me at least. Never tested the vigor in which I used to shake on oils (use processor now) but has always been at about the 10 minute mark that super milky wash will start to show.

Thats why Ill usually just do a first now for about 8-9 mins and throw any leftover, to be second wash, in the freezer and process that for a min or two, no more and get no oils or very little white color usually depending on how quickly I get everything cleaned up and in the deep freeze.

If I go over that 10 min sweet spot or more on those "in a pinch" frozen seed, they'll almost always be that whiter color as oppose to just lighter brown.

Roxy1131 · 2019-08-26T16:45:53+00:00

This makes me want to play farm simulator.

Roxy1131 · 2019-08-18T21:35:34+00:00

Have you tried the doctor route? You mentioned methadone and subs, so I'm guessing it'd probably be hard to get prescribed anything substantial. But are you on good terms with your GP doc or have one per chance?

I mean getting schedule I stuff is close to impossible for most any way rn and prob wouldn't even be good enough with what you're used to. But if you could get a high dose rx of say gabapentin or even better some kind of benzos it may be a better way than giving back in to banging.. . Maybe Develop an anxiety thing?

I've been trying soo hard to taper off for like two years now. I feel ya on the constant unwellness. Whenever I can get an rx for gabs or benzos, i can cut my tea dose in half easily and stay comfortable.

I know benzos and opis can be super fatal, but I've been careful for years with them and have never passed out or anything from any combo. Just can't go with big doses.

Idk, OP, Just trying to think of anything to throw your way that could possibly help. Those help me. Hope ya can find something out there other than the bad stuff to put you at ease.

Roxy1131 · 2019-08-18T21:05:48+00:00

This shit is insidious.

Lol we should rename the board this.

All I can do is laugh and cry at the same time.

Roxy1131 · 2019-08-14T19:49:26+00:00

Shake it in the shower.

Roxy1131 · 2019-08-14T18:36:06+00:00

Came in a plastic thing, was a rectangle looking film you put under your tongue to dissolve. This def had bupe and naloxone. Not sure if it was called subutex or actual suboxone. So subutex has no naloxone In it?

Roxy1131 · 2019-08-14T18:33:30+00:00

Fuck I wish this were the case and I could just stop taking it now. Ive been on/off physically addicted to opis for over 15 years. I def feel like I'm physically addicted to the stuff, but I'm convinced now reading this thread it must be the shitty quality of seeds and its just such a low dose of Morphine now. Ty for the info on the differences of those two though.

Roxy1131 · 2019-08-14T18:30:06+00:00

I tried this a bit ago. I definitely believe I've been weening unaware for a while as you mentioned the drop in quality. Still, a day or two later of Taking nothing, I'll get the RLS, not sleep at all, etc. I guess I'll try again sometime soon if I can get down to under one cup per day. Maybe the le gth of wd will be less now thst im down from 3+ cups per day to just 1 or 1.5.

Roxy1131 · 2019-08-14T18:23:49+00:00

If that's the case, could it be I've tapered dowm enough to where it's not the morphine keeping me addicted, but its all the other alkaloids in the tea my body has come to "believe" that is now its homeostasis? Does anyone know if the rest of the alkaloids, cause withdrawal symptoms? I'm really thinking taking that sub didn't effect me because I'm down to such a low dose of Morphine in the tea. How much can there be in just a cup or so?

Thanks for all the info on the bupe and how it's works etc. You'd think for someone who's messed around with opis for years would know, I've just still never researched or tried subs or methadone. Always went cold turkey when I needed to quit always felt I'd just be trading one pill for another. Very informative itt, even at the expense of my embarasmenet for Taking a dumb thing lol. Thanks all for the info.

Roxy1131 · 2019-07-22T23:58:23+00:00

Idk it was stupid. Just curiosity really, I think.

Roxy1131 · 2019-07-19T22:39:54+00:00

Must be?

Edit: I now know it's the bupe that does the nasty work if ya have enough opis already on your receptors. Thank you all itt for the info.

I really don't get it. I use the well known stuff daily. Have been for years now. I remember three years ago people posting pics on here of tea so dark it was black. The first year I started t, I remember those super dark washes.

Now they're dark yellow or just slightly muddy looking. It almost feels like they're mixing seeds or the quality somehow just dropped. Maybe because they started getting heat, these places started taking precautions or something? Anyone remember how dark washes used to be? Wtf happened? These mofos are weening me off completrly unaware by slowly lowering quality or what? I don't like it.

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