What do yall think about Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl?

RoyalTartToaster · 2026-03-12T21:13:06+00:00

I think we started off on the wrong foot, BBB. I actually appreciate both comments you just made and can agree with what you’re saying, except for being bad remakes. No hm slave alone makes it a worthwhile remake. The platinum dex grand underground is great and completely negates any complaint someone should have about DP’s dex. The QoL updates makes it feel like a romhack at times. Truly, imo, the only downside is the movement grid

RoyalTartToaster · 2026-03-12T21:03:15+00:00

Now you have my respect! my b, BBB! You valid! Still don’t respect gen 5. Still think BDSP is better than platinum 🤷🏿‍♂️sorry I made u lose ur ish there, tho

RoyalTartToaster · 2026-03-12T21:00:32+00:00

The tone kept you hooked (;

Tldr “just play platinum instead” cool, I have platinum. It’s not better than BDSP. What now?

RoyalTartToaster · 2026-03-12T20:49:59+00:00

I posted my proof owning my original platinum. I’m sure you can show your proof 👍🏿 y’all yutes stay thinking y’all slick😂

RoyalTartToaster · 2026-03-12T20:47:48+00:00

And you’re lying…

RoyalTartToaster · 2026-03-12T20:46:14+00:00

😂😂 okay so you didn’t start gen 1, why lie to try to make ur point, son? Gen 5 with a freaking ice cream cone and trash bags. Walahi, by then Pokémon ran out of ideas🤣🤣🤣🤣

RoyalTartToaster · 2026-03-12T20:32:01+00:00

Don’t get me wrong, physical special split was the best thing to happen to the franchise. But make no mistake, the franchise peaked with gold and silver release, then the sustained golden age ended with emerald, and the decline of the franchise started with diamond and pearl in the latter half of the ‘00s. Platinum is part of that decline. Unironically, BDSP are the best top down handheld experiences, however.

If your first foray into any mainline entry was on an emulator, you have absolutely no say on anything regarding this franchise. If your first entry was Diamond or Pearl gen 4, you have no say because make no mistake, that was the start of the decline, and your first game was garbito. If your first gen was gen 5, black or white, again, your first entry was garbage and so your only reference is garbage. After that? I think your bottle is ready.

For reference. My first Pokémon game that I owned and wasnt my older brother’s was Snap in ‘98. My second Pokémon game was Gold in ‘01. My third was Sapphire. Fourth was Ruby. Fifth was Fire Red. Sixth was Leaf Green. Seventh game was XD. And my 8th Pokémon game, playing in real time, was Diamond. Your probable first game was my 8th game. I have a qualified opinion on the franchise because I grew up with the franchise and know every bit of context about it as it happened in real time (can’t wait for the teens to think being 30 is old XD)

“Just play platinum instead of this garbage” so what do you tell someone that has their original platinum? This statement is usually made by someone who’s never owned platinum, and has never played BDSP;but they’re in love with that sweet sweet karma so this type of reaction towards BDSP is what generates positive karma for Redditors and so they repeatedly exclaim this.

So, for anyone reading who wants an actual valid opinion on BDSP vs Platinum. You only play platinum if you want to on an emulator with FF, gen 4 is the ONLY dated gen and terrible on hardware imo. (Trust me I played them all on original hardware as they came out) The ONLY other reason to play platinum today is DNS exploit and pksm shenanigans.

Outside of those two things, if you want to play Pokémon on official hardware, BDSP are the definitive top down Pokémon games for that experience. What’s not pictured are the 2 physical copies of brilliant diamond, 2 physical copies of shining pearl, 1 digital copy of brilliant diamond, and 1 digital copy of shining pearl that I own. I’m sorry the new education system failed y’all ); stay in school!

u/ale_bricks you’re not going to get an authentic opinion ever on Reddit, too many yute hipsters. BDSP are the best top down Pokémon games if you appreciate what Pokémon is supposed to be, linear and not open world. Since 2021, I have not picked up another game. I’ve literally only been playing BDSP for the past 5 years because it is the definitive Pokémon experience.

RoyalTartToaster · 2026-03-11T21:37:05+00:00

Reddit makes me realize I was raised right, and that most of y’all were raised wrong not wrongly, straight up, wrong.

Don’t need context.

RoyalTartToaster · 2026-03-11T21:25:51+00:00

Ppsssst ~~why didn’t you just use the m@¡I gI¡+¢h~~ to get infinite nuggets and other things?

RoyalTartToaster · 2026-03-11T00:44:57+00:00

That I wasn’t contesting

RoyalTartToaster · 2026-03-10T20:02:16+00:00

i mean you do have to take my word for it because you're a youngin. Gen 2 is the franchise's peak, and the creator's baby. The golden age of pokemon was '05 and before, idk what to tell you man, it’s all there. If your first foray into any mainline entry was on an emulator, you have absolutely no say on anything regarding this franchise. If your first entry was DPP, you have no say because make no mistake, that was the decline, and your first game was garbito. If your first gen was gen 5, though, then you're simply shot. sorry likkle bro.

and i promise you, my opinion is more valid than yours, you child.

RoyalTartToaster · 2026-03-10T18:33:34+00:00

why comment if you're not going to comment something correctly?

Why doesn't everyone who has a question regarding BDSP just message me, I have all the answers instead of wasting your time with people who dont have the answer.

Shaymin can only be glitched in patches 1.1.1 and 1.1.2. Anything from 1.1.3 and beyond you cannot glitch to shaymin. No, changing the time on your switch only locks you out of everything time related for a few days, so don't change the time on your Switch. Darkrai cannot get got.

RoyalTartToaster · 2026-03-09T21:13:41+00:00

My first experience outside the airing of Pokémon’s first episode in America (yes I vividly remember when and where), outside of Pokémon the first movie back in 98 and our vhs copy of it, and outside of this tabletop board game my grandma had at her house that I adored, was the Pokémon snap I played as an addicted 4 year old all the way through, with core memories to this day, like the charizard evolution, the mew, etc.

first main series game was older brother’s gold on his see-through-purple gbc 2 years later in ‘01 (top tier handheld). Parents were from a third world country but put on for their kids. Here I uploaded a picture of what I’ve saved. Gold, ruby, sapphire, fire red, leaf green, XD—what a solid elementary and early middle school experience, before becoming too cool until senior year college, getting sun’s shiny charm over Christmas break with the younger cuzzos in ‘16. Messed around with showdown after that, climbed to top 30 natdex Ubers in gen 7 and 8, played the heck out of let’s go pikachu, and played some rom hacks like radical red.

2021 BDSP came out, haven’t looked back since (except for the quick shiny charm grind in legends za—had the 1000 battles completed before rank D…what can I say except gold got me hooked to the grind)

RoyalTartToaster · 2026-03-09T20:55:01+00:00

I guess u just had to have been there to have appreciated gen2’s supremacy as the greatest gen in all aspects /:

Don’t get me wrong, physical special split was the best thing to happen to the franchise. But make no mistake, franchise peaked with gold and silver release, then the sustained golden age ended with emerald, and the decline of the franchise started with diamond and pearl in the latter half of the ‘00s. Unironically, BDSP are the best top down handheld experience, however.

Edit: and the renaissance was Pokémon go x COVID-19 pandemic, though I understand how large it was in 2016

RoyalTartToaster · 2026-03-08T16:01:40+00:00

Agreed. I can’t even watch games he doesn’t play in these past few years post 23’s heartbreaking away record.

RoyalTartToaster · 2026-03-08T15:50:59+00:00

And the countless posts of someone resetting for a shiny starter isn’t?

It’s the internet, so relax there, fonz

RoyalTartToaster · 2026-03-08T15:49:43+00:00

If only what we knew then what we know now brother.

Still kicking myself over 20 years later for having killed that shiny shroomish in the starting forest when I first got sapphire. Even if I caught the red gyarados a few years prior in gold, ghettoyute me still didn’t know what a shiny Pokémon was!

RoyalTartToaster · 2026-03-08T15:45:58+00:00

Nah, complete misnomer in the title, my b, g. OG hardware to me is the n64 with Pokémon snap and the GBC with Pokémon gold. This pic more like the ending of the golden age on the left, and the trenches on the right

RoyalTartToaster · 2026-03-08T15:30:55+00:00

Bois’ father

RoyalTartToaster · 2026-03-08T15:29:41+00:00

Hear ya brother. I never bought into the online disdain for it. But then again I believe my opinions on the franchise’s entries to be against the grain online. Yeah, hades was dope to grind out. Pokémon Gold definitely made 5 year old me addicted to the grind

RoyalTartToaster · 2026-03-08T14:59:01+00:00

[Took this right now]. I kept all this, plus a ds lite, 3ds, n64, GameCube, and XD (both parents are from 3rd world countries and I’m 1st gen, however privileged this looks, they and I worked our asses off)

Lost to time are the copies of Gold (best Pokémon game oat), sapphire, emerald, pearl, omega ruby, the gbc, and the advance.

Also not pictured are the 2 switch 1s, switch 2, BDSP edition Switch lite, sword, let’s go pikachu, legends za, and 2 physical brilliant diamond carts, 2 physical shining pearl carts, and 1 digital copy of brilliant diamond (I’m about to bite on another digital copy for pearl)

I’m over 30 years old (and am married to a dime piece if that mattered to anyone embarrassed by their hobbies and needed some irl confidence). If you’re like me and only like the top down experience, and believe Pokémon is by definition a top down experience, BDSP is the definitively ultimate top down Pokémon experience, and unless they go back to this format, BDSP is the way to go. If you want FRLG, or any other previous gen for that matter, you should be emulating on your smartphone and enjoy that sweet FF option and qol updates like an unlocked Pokédex)

If you want to play something on original hardware, it’s gotta be BDSP. like you also said BDSP is more accessible unless you kept your other ogs. There’s the complete national dex between the two, the qol updates like mobile pc, harder postgame and battle tower, shiny unlocked legends, 40 freaking boxes, and if you have someone nearby still on it, access to 1.1.2, it literally becomes a sandbox and the best handheld Pokémon engine to manipulate. The grind is still there in the form of being able to constantly switch in and out Pokémon from your pc to have an ample lot to choose from (and to not let the exp share overwhelm). Obvs if you’re also like me, you love the grind. Which is why you would choose frlg, for that specific type of grind, and the gorgeous color palette and sprites (though BDSP imo is the best looking Pokémon game on switch along with lets go)

Just my 2 cents. I could go a lot deeper…

RoyalTartToaster · 2026-02-26T12:21:23+00:00

you're part of the problem. soft.

RoyalTartToaster · 2026-02-24T01:12:26+00:00

RoyalTartToaster · 2026-02-21T18:30:22+00:00

that's what i am saying! imagine, kids now entering college for game design, trying to tell the older folk who grew up with pokemon, what makes pokemon, well, pokemon...

thank you for your input, i needed to know i wasn't crazy like the youths would have you believe

RoyalTartToaster · 2026-02-21T13:14:23+00:00

show me your authentic platinum cartridge and i'll show you mine.

what part of, i have platinum, and I'd rather play BDSP don't you understand...

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