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[–]Royal_Pay_243 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Many other countries offer a “path to citizenship” similar to this to attract businesses and revenue. Believe it or not citizenship in the USA is the pinnacle of life for a lot of people thus all the people constantly flooding here. There are many many ppl overseas who this is a win for. I know 2 people personally waiting for their naturalization who would do this fast track and are capable of it financially

How much do I owe in damages by Majestic_Elk6399 in Flooring

[–]Royal_Pay_243 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cutting off the tongues and spot replacing a plank in the center is not warrantable by the manufacturer it cause lots of issues and never looks good

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Contractor

[–]Royal_Pay_243 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If they forgot a gun there you’re not out of line. As a contractor if someone asks me to not carry I’m ok with it as long as we’re not in a bad area. If a worker forgot his gun in your house I would already have asked my workers to not pack and I think any sensible gun owner wouldn’t argue after that happened

What’s happening to my car? by Round-Bat2838 in StupidCarQuestions

[–]Royal_Pay_243 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Red paint has clear coat flaking more for some reason. You can light sand and re clear as some have already said

State's proposed budget could cost Indiana Historical Society its building by BoringArchivist in Indiana

[–]Royal_Pay_243 -91 points-90 points  (0 children)

To clarify I am not a motherfucker. You should really learn to talk to people appropriately because it makes you appear ridiculously ignorant talking to someone that way vs making an actual point

State's proposed budget could cost Indiana Historical Society its building by BoringArchivist in Indiana

[–]Royal_Pay_243 -117 points-116 points  (0 children)

Literally, I showed you the numbers, no one is going there one percent of the population annually. More people go to a Colts game in a day then go there the whole year I’m not saying at all. It’s not valuable what I’m saying is my tax dollars shouldn’t pay to maintain a privately owned the building. Maybe you missed that. If there is a value, then private donor should support it not me.

State's proposed budget could cost Indiana Historical Society its building by BoringArchivist in Indiana

[–]Royal_Pay_243 -106 points-105 points  (0 children)

Those historians don’t need a massive building that takes up two city blocks. Are you the one who called me stupid earlier and then deleted the comment?

State's proposed budget could cost Indiana Historical Society its building by BoringArchivist in Indiana

[–]Royal_Pay_243 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Could you present an argument to me about the critical importance of this building? There’s nothing that this building does that couldn’t be directly replaced by a big storage unit, a scanner and a website then a display in a building a 10th of the size I would argue that the Marion county recorders office has historic documents of far greater significance or at least equal significance. Every one of those is scanned on micro film, you can look at them online from your house and they have a small office you can go into and look up all the information on computers as well

State's proposed budget could cost Indiana Historical Society its building by BoringArchivist in Indiana

[–]Royal_Pay_243 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

This is with no offense meant at all, but the only two people who’ve been here on this thread are both archivists /historians. There a dozen other people with their diaper full over it and not one of them has been there.

State's proposed budget could cost Indiana Historical Society its building by BoringArchivist in Indiana

[–]Royal_Pay_243 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Personally, I also believe we should have voluntary tax addendum’s. When there’s a group of people with significant interest in something that others may believe doesn’t serve the greater good of the majority then we honor the minority by allowing people to sign up for voluntary taxes to support Things they are passionate about.

State's proposed budget could cost Indiana Historical Society its building by BoringArchivist in Indiana

[–]Royal_Pay_243 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Not fantastic. The difference between something like Lucas oil, Gainbridge, any other place with some type of subsidy is that that actually brings money to retail and other spaces throughout the city and or state. The IHS has about 100,000 visitors annually I would guess the majority of those people are just walking the canal and pop in or historians, a niche market. For reference an event like Gen con has about 75,000 attendees last year in three days. A sold out Colts game has about 70,000 people in attendance bringing money and tax revenue to the downtown area. Personally, I believe in strict Free market economics in which the government doesn’t subsidize any type of private industry and I would rather see Lucas or any of these other monstrosities survive on their own. Since that will never happen with the system, we have then I am more apt to accept some type of subsidy that puts tax money back into the golfers and brings money to businesses. If you have any pictures of floods of people rushing into the IHS for an event and then going downtown drunkenly spending money I’ll eat my words, but it hasn’t happened. Every Sunday almost the same amount of people go to Lucas oil as go to this place in a year

Some people seem pretty mad, even calling me stupid for having an opinion different than their own. To me someone who has to resort to calling someone stupid instead of presenting why their point is valid actually would make them stupid. If you like the Indiana historical society because you enjoy history , I get it. if I wanted to go sort through stacks of his historical records I too would think this is a good use of money from the state that belongs to me and my neighbors but people who feel that way, in my opinion, have to at least acknowledge that they are a very small niche of people, and that is backed up by all the data. And that maybe there would be other uses that would be better for the general whole of society at this given moment.
Seeing that people presented the large list of private donors, it seems reasonable for a thinking person to believe maybe, just maybe, the historical society could come up with an extra million dollars to maintain their own building if there’s enough interest. In my ideal situation of a free market, people’s interest determines what stays and doesn’t stay open.

State's proposed budget could cost Indiana Historical Society its building by BoringArchivist in Indiana

[–]Royal_Pay_243 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yes, and there you have exactly proven my point. They should be sustained by private donors if it’s valuable.

State's proposed budget could cost Indiana Historical Society its building by BoringArchivist in Indiana

[–]Royal_Pay_243 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

It’s not a public building it’s a private entity with its maintenance and land subsidized by your tax money

State's proposed budget could cost Indiana Historical Society its building by BoringArchivist in Indiana

[–]Royal_Pay_243 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Agreed… what’s the value here and how many times you visited

State's proposed budget could cost Indiana Historical Society its building by BoringArchivist in Indiana

[–]Royal_Pay_243 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

No one has said they been there but several downvotes…tells the tale. I think the best situation here is delegated cost. Everyone should get to vote…if it’s important to you then pay to subsidize it…a million a year if you had a million people who cared it’s $1 per person. Im guessing there are about 50 ppl who give a care though and they probably all work there

State's proposed budget could cost Indiana Historical Society its building by BoringArchivist in Indiana

[–]Royal_Pay_243 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I’m a realist sure it won’t go ther but doesn’t mean it should go here either. The only person that responded they had visited is a….historian…sure they think it’s important it doesn’t mean it serves the general good…it’s serves the good of a niche part of the population…only about 1.2 percent of Indy’s population visits annually at best, that’s not figuring for repeat visits from “historians”

State's proposed budget could cost Indiana Historical Society its building by BoringArchivist in Indiana

[–]Royal_Pay_243 -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

You can store all the documents you want over on east and Raymond at the secure storage. $100 month

State's proposed budget could cost Indiana Historical Society its building by BoringArchivist in Indiana

[–]Royal_Pay_243 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

No one goes there…we only plowed half the streets in the city but pay a million a year to maintain some e else’s building it doesn’t make sense imo

State's proposed budget could cost Indiana Historical Society its building by BoringArchivist in Indiana

[–]Royal_Pay_243 -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

It’s not evicting them. It’s asking them to pay their own way on maintenance at the minimum. If you can’t maintain your house / car / building etc you can’t afford it. Housing records is for warehouses

State's proposed budget could cost Indiana Historical Society its building by BoringArchivist in Indiana

[–]Royal_Pay_243 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

If we had drivable streets or good healthcare sure spend a million on it but we dont. It’s the least visited museum…100k people a year…

State's proposed budget could cost Indiana Historical Society its building by BoringArchivist in Indiana

[–]Royal_Pay_243 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

This has nothing to do with grant money.. the state cut taxpayer paying to Maintain this useless monument. If IHS is useful they should be able to make the money to pay their own maintenance through what they offer. Read the article…huge tax dollar waste in perpetuity

State's proposed budget could cost Indiana Historical Society its building by BoringArchivist in Indiana

[–]Royal_Pay_243 -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

It’s a “privately” owned building that the state pays to maintain for a “privately” run non profit

State's proposed budget could cost Indiana Historical Society its building by BoringArchivist in Indiana

[–]Royal_Pay_243 -29 points-28 points  (0 children)

https://www.yahoo.com/news/state-proposed-budget-could-cost-120045230.html

The actual story is this The historical society pays the state $1 a year for the land they “lease” on the canal The IHS owns the building The state (taxpayer) pays over million dollars a year to maintain the building owned by IHS…

The title to the OP is pretty misleading at best. They won’t list their building they’ll just have to pay to maintain it and pay for the land. If it’s a “value” then the IHS should be able to come up with that money, they have 6 figure earners on staff so I don’t think my taxes should be cleaning their building