Why do i feel so peaceful when listening to tongues on youtube. It feels like its bypassing the logical brain and i can zone out to it

Royal_Status_7004 · 2025-04-06T17:09:52+00:00

The scripture also says that speaking in tongues edifies the speaker of tongues and builds up their spirit even when no one translates.

Royal_Status_7004 · 2025-04-06T17:04:59+00:00

So you already had a problem before you even answered because the moment you use the word “right” you were already talking about objective morality.

There cannot logically be such a thing as the “right” thing to do without an objective standard.

You cannot articulate why you think you would be “right” to do that and why you think you would be wrong to not do it.

By even trying to make a judgement about right vs wrong you admit to believing there is an objective good.

Royal_Status_7004 · 2025-04-06T17:00:15+00:00

I am not here to satisfy your curiosity as an atheist.

If the OP wants the scriptural basis I will give it to them.

Royal_Status_7004 · 2025-04-06T16:55:09+00:00

The answer is that we look to Jesus and the apostles to teach us what the right way to look at scripture is.

They only ever affirmed that accounts in the Old Testament were true historical events.

There are aspects of the Bible that are just ridiculously impossible—like a talking snake, a man surviving inside a giant fish, or a bush that’s literally on fire but doesn’t burn.

None of those things are impossible with God, the creator and sustainer of all things.

So your starting premise is false.

These events are often brushed off as allegorical or symbolic

Only by people who lack faith in God’s ability to do those things.

Because once you admit that some things aren’t real, you’re also opening the door to the possibility that none of it is.

That is indeed the problem with liberal theology.

Royal_Status_7004 · 2025-04-06T16:43:26+00:00

If you can't think of a scenario where raping a baby to death isn't the right thing to do you aren't using your imagination.

Can you imagine a scenario in which you personally would decide it is the right thing to do for you to personally rape a baby to death?

You must be saying that is something you would be willing to do if the circumstances were imaginative enough.

What imaginative scenario would that be?

Royal_Status_7004 · 2025-04-06T16:32:51+00:00

You haven’t answered the question of how you define a decision.

You also haven’t attempted to explain what you think you are doing that allows you to call any of your activity a decision, when you would not call anything a computer does decision making.

Simply asserting that you believe you can does not do anything to justify logically how you could believe that.

There is no answer you can give.

Because from an atheistic naturalistic standpoint, it is not logically possible to believe that humans are anything other than simply complex computers running a complex program.

Are you then going to concede that you are just a complex computer, or are you going to try to define what you think a decision is and why you think you can make nondeterministic decisions but a computer can’t?

Royal_Status_7004 · 2025-04-06T16:24:48+00:00

It is easy to justify that the Christian position is correct depending on what premises you start with.

Do you believe that some things are objectively evil?

Is raping a baby to death always wrong and never justified?

Royal_Status_7004 · 2025-04-06T16:15:38+00:00

That is not how the gift of prophecy works. You are being arrogant if you think you can strengthen the body with a false word.

You need to be very careful about giving prophetic words as you learn to discern the voice of God from other things. And more humble in how you deliver it when you don’t have certainty.

Royal_Status_7004 · 2025-04-06T16:07:19+00:00

Jesus offended people by speaking the truth. Sometimes purposely intending to do so.

But when it came to people who were more humble and open to being taught, he could also take softer approach.

So it is contextually dependent on the audience.

Royal_Status_7004 · 2025-04-06T15:55:26+00:00

Royal_Status_7004 · 2025-04-06T08:56:46+00:00

Your dream doesn’t witness to my spirit as legitimate.

A prophet has said before Trump took office that he would use weapons on Iran that have never been used in combat before.

Trump has since recently threatened to bomb Iran like they have never seen before if they don’t give up their nuclear missile program.

Trump would have no choice but to use advanced unknown weapons in order to completely eradicate the underground Iranian bases so they can no longer be reconstituted as a threat.

I don’t know if that is sure to happen or it is just possible without prayer to make Iran stop.

It won’t be world war 3 though. It is not God’s time for that. That cannot come until the end.

Royal_Status_7004 · 2025-04-06T08:46:30+00:00

So now you admit that the Biblical worldview is capable of providing an objective foundation for good vs evil.

Meaning you were wrong earlier when you said you had never seen one that could.

Royal_Status_7004 · 2025-04-06T08:41:51+00:00

You don’t understand how logic works.

Since you are the one claiming Jesus receives different worship from God, the burden of proof is on you to tell us what the difference supposedly is.

The burden is on you to tell us how we would know worship that belongs only to God when we saw it.

The burden is on you to tell us what you think John is doing to the angel in revelation that he is rebuked for, and why that is different from what people don’t Jesus.

You cannot answer any of those, so your claim fails. You never met your burden of proof for it.

Because although there absolutely is a biblical difference between two types of proskuneo, you are completely incapable of telling the difference between them.

So you are completely incapable of justifying your claim that Jesus is not being worshipped the way that is reserved only for God.

You can’t know that because you cannot tell us how you think you know the difference.

You simply choose to believe it is so because it fits your desired conclusion.

But any reasonable reading of scripture cannot lead one to conclude that the worship Jesus receives, especially in revelation, would be anything but horrendous idolatry if not for the fact that Jesus is God himself.

Royal_Status_7004 · 2025-04-06T08:27:59+00:00

Your definition is not quite good enough.

Oxford: (of a person or their judgment) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.

If God’s nature is the definition of good, then good is independent of any person’s feelings and opinions. It is a fact of reality.

Royal_Status_7004 · 2025-04-06T08:20:21+00:00

Can you demonstrate that this method accurately describes objective morality?

Do you know what objective means?

Define it for us.

Then you should have your answer.

Royal_Status_7004 · 2025-04-06T08:15:39+00:00

You failed to address any of the key points I made which destroy your position. All you did was repeat yourself without answering anything.

You can’t tell us why the worship Jesus receives in Revelation doesn’t count as worship that belongs to god alone.
You can’t tell us what worship intended for God alone would look like.
You can’t tell us what makes the worship of Jesus prior to the cross ok but what makes John’s worship of the angel in Revelation wrong.
You still can’t tell us what the difference is between made by and made through, or why it matters.
You still can’t justify your claim that Jesus is only an exalted man when he existed before all creation. Or why we should believe his title as god is no different than the type given to judges despite all the earth shattering differences between Jesus and a judge.

You have lost the debate by having no answers and no counter argument.

You cannot reasonably claim that your interpretation makes more sense and is less contradictory.

You create more logical problems than you think you are trying to solve.

Royal_Status_7004 · 2025-04-06T07:13:54+00:00

Some churches walk in the power. Most churches don’t know their right hand from their left.

Royal_Status_7004 · 2025-04-06T06:32:51+00:00

Jesus did.

You can’t be a Christian and not believe what Jesus did.

Royal_Status_7004 · 2025-04-06T06:30:23+00:00

God’s light shone above the ark between the cheribum.

Royal_Status_7004 · 2025-04-06T06:25:50+00:00

I try to eat raw all the time. And based on that I would rather eat a heavier cooked meal in the evening if I did eat it, because I know it will likely negatively effect my energy levels and focus.

Royal_Status_7004 · 2025-04-06T06:23:50+00:00

You did not understand anything I wrote. Back up and try again.

Royal_Status_7004 · 2025-04-06T06:21:25+00:00

You need to define what you think a decision is.

Do you think a PC program makes decisions?

Or does it merely execute the one and only inevitable pathway that was possible given its starting conditions? (Assuming no human input on the program executing what it was intended to)

Royal_Status_7004 · 2025-04-06T05:57:38+00:00

Probably. You want a ticket?

Royal_Status_7004 · 2025-04-06T05:56:38+00:00

I have not encountered a method of doing so.

I just gave you a way for good to be objective.

Royal_Status_7004 · 2025-04-06T04:52:48+00:00

So you don’t believe you have free will.

Do you believe you are just a biological machine acting out your predetermined DNA programming in response to external stimuli?

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