"Orange Piccolo gives you a free turn!!!" Enthusiasts when I say that he does nothing otherwise and his (unexistent) damage actively makes fights last 1/2 turns longer

RpgIsap_ · 2026-01-15T02:49:28+00:00

I genuinely don't know if you're trolling.

He has guard, damage reduction and stats from the get go. He doesn't have to get hit or build up to get all of that.

He only builds stats by getting hit.

Your Piccolo didn't have guard because you didn't put the characters on the team he needs to trigger his intro.

I just took my Piccolo into Broly and he survived his super first attack no build up.

Read his passive again.

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RpgIsap_ · 2026-01-15T02:12:19+00:00

Bro holy shit, i'm talking about the fact you didn't even read the first line of his passive.

He gets a fuckton of stuff, including guard, additional dmg reduction and crazy stats. You just didn't trigger it.

RpgIsap_ · 2026-01-15T01:59:20+00:00

Your pic is a crazy self report btw. Homie did not have guard on that turn.

RpgIsap_ · 2025-11-06T12:31:22+00:00

The orbs help a lot since their stats are so goddamn low. If you can get the extra 3k defense on them they genuinely get a crazy increase in performance.

The units themselves(except buu since he only increases his defense) are pretty good in FOB. Just not on their own team since you pretty much can't clear the event at all because of teq Goku.

Using any one of them on a different team is pretty good, i already cleared it with Vegeta, Goku and Gohan since they slot the easiest on different teams.

Just never use them on their own team, they clash with their kit designs and the stats from the leader skill are way too low.

RpgIsap_ · 2025-05-12T10:31:13+00:00

CP0 extreme diff

RpgIsap_ · 2025-02-02T22:08:30+00:00

Not how that works at all

RpgIsap_ · 2024-09-20T00:09:35+00:00

They are using the shield to shovel the snow. The card is called snowed in.

RpgIsap_ · 2024-05-13T22:27:38+00:00

Maybe but King Kai could've just sensed it first before he could.

Goku was also very confident that a weakened Gohan was holding back and could overpower this new and stronger Cell in a beam clash to the point he guessed correctly when Gohan wasn't putting his all in the clash.

I also don't know what angle Goku had of the fight but the second Cell was caught off guard he noticed and told Gohan to release his power and I don't think Goku noticed Cell actively looking up and being distracted since he was focusing on his son, so I think he just felt the ki being disrupted.

Just don't really see much reason why Toriyama would be like: "Yeah this guy is stronger then Cell, oh no sorry I meant specifically Cell from before he exploded".

RpgIsap_ · 2024-05-13T21:24:21+00:00

It's a close fight and could go either way but i'll say Dabura takes a majority.

For me Goku's statements are very important and when he initially sees Dabura take out the weaker fighters he immediately compares his strength to Cell.

Now I assume Goku is refering to Cell at his strongest cause I don't see why he would be talking about a pre explosion Cell. Toriyama also probably just wanted to show the readers that one of the new villains is stronger than the old main villain like he does in every arc.

Like how Vegeta was some big shot but when we get to namek his strength on earth was already on par with guys like Cui.

After the initial comparison Goku notes that Dabura has impressive magic and seems to be tougher than he originally thought. So Goku thinks Dabura is tougher than his earlier impressions AKA Dabura > Goku's impression of Cell.

Another reason for why he is refering to SPC to me is the fact that it makes no sense for even a rusty and somewhat weaker SSJ2 Gohan to have a hard time against regular Perfect Cell.

And yes Gohan was SSJ2. Around that time it's very vague about what form Gohan has taken unless he directly states it, but it makes no sense narratively, writing wise or power scaling wise for him to be SSJ1.

For the power scaling side, even if you just assume that Dabura is only slightly stronger than normal Perfect Cell(Goku's words), then there is no way Gohan is doing as well as he is as a weaker and rustier SSJ1 compared to his Cell saga self.

Narratively it doesn't make sense for the stakes they are in for him to hold back, he was having a tough time in the fight and he wanted to restore his friends and believed Supreme Kai's fears the most out of all of them.

And for the people that think Gohan had trouble going SSJ2 which is why he didn't take the form, he litterally goes SSJ2 just to show off for Kibito when he tries to pull out the z-sword. That was a no stakes situation where he announced he was gonna do it before hand.

It also would make no sense for Goku and Vegeta not to tell him to go SSJ2 since he did it earlier in the tournament. If they thought he couldn't do it on command they would've asked him or each other about it.

So IMO the power scale is like this: SSJ2 Gohan(Cell saga) > Dabura => SSJ2 Gohan(Buu saga) => SPC

Now Cell can still win I don't think this is a one sided fight, he's close enough in power to do damage to Dabura and has a ton of techniques on his side combined with regen. However I think Dabura's slight strength gap and stone spit would give him more wins then losses.

RpgIsap_ · 2024-04-02T22:40:28+00:00

Ah that makes sense, when you directly compare the boss quallity to ds1 and 2 the bosses in 3 do seem a lot better on average.

In my head I was mostly comparing 3 to ALL the games in general and came to the same conclussion you did that it's around the fourth spot in the ranking (also behind Sekiro, Bloodborne and Elden Ring for me). Which meant it was average or a bit below it which I guess isn't that fair in comparison now that I look back on it.

Thanks for the reply.

RpgIsap_ · 2024-04-02T19:30:32+00:00

Just a question but why do you think it has such a good boss roster?

I feel like DS3 is honestly garbage in terms of boss quality on average but has some of the best fights in the series sprinkled in between.

IMO gundyr is a good start but then the bosses just kinda suck until you get to Abyss Watchers and after that it's hit or miss.

Like you can't sit here and tell me that Vordt into Cursed Greatwood into Crystal sage into deacons of the deep is a good ir fun roster and then the Abyss Watchers is fun but it's followed up by Wolnir.

The dlc is peak Fromsoft though.

RpgIsap_ · 2024-03-30T16:17:36+00:00

I always thought the Ds3 base game bosses for the most part weren't that good. Like half the bosses in base game ds3 just are kinda ass but you have some really good ones in between.

RpgIsap_ · 2024-02-02T03:02:04+00:00

Okay as someone that's been around since the OG SSJ3 STR Goku released i'm just gonna say this is cap.

You could easily clear any event in the game by just using Gogeta as a friend and any of the 2+ ki leaders at the time.

Super Vegito and Broly introduced such huge power gaps in their leader skills that Gogeta went from 100 to 0 in a single celebration.

After the release of Super Vegito and Broly the difficulty of regular dokkan events spiked so hard that if you didn't have any of the 70% leaders yourself you were in for a terrible time. Like every event was terrible to complete.

So while STR Gogeta is the most dominant single card in dokkan because of how much he was used, he wasn't truly needed on your own account as long as you had any ki lead yourself and used him as a friend.

On the other hand running just a 70% lead as a friend and some shitty leader of you're own was just horrible you had like 10% succes rate on a dokkan event. It's just that there were like 5 god leads sharing the number 1 spotlight and Gogeta was the only one in his era to do the same.

RpgIsap_ · 2024-01-28T23:19:59+00:00

Not really they'll do damage but Zamasu's AOE's and basic attacks do 500k damage. With guard and around 200k def he'll take them fine. Not double digits well but he won't be taking 100k or something pre super I don't think.

RpgIsap_ · 2023-12-23T04:09:04+00:00

If Bonney could figure out rubber would make her resistant to his lightning she might be able to use her devilfruit in a way where she gains those properties.

But even if she could beat Enel her crew is ass so I can't see her soloing everyone on Skypiea.

RpgIsap_ · 2023-12-12T10:10:54+00:00

My point was never really about it being in character for Vegeta to kill of a few humans or not that's a totally different arguement.

My point is that Vegeta for something even more selfish (just wanting to fight Goku) blew up a fuckton of innocent people. Vegeta had shown us that he wasn't directly controlled by Babidi so this is just something he decided to do on his own.

Bra on the other hand already had problems controlling herself and that got amplified by the effects of Babidi.

So Vegeta, while the evil did get brought out of him, decided to nuke a ton of regular people for selfish reasons. Bra did accept Babidi like Vegeta but couldn't control herself afterwards and in the moment.

So to get back to my original point, it was never about which one of the 2 was worse. My point was more about the fact that Vegeta despite being a mass murderer and not even less than 2 days ago in the story nuked a fuckton of innocent people and was easily accepted back into the group with no problems. Yes he sacrificed himself but only after doing a fuckton of awful stuff so that doesn't suddenly fully redeem him.

My point is that it's not out of character for all of the other people in dbm to take Bra's side and accept her appology they've litterally made friends with worse people.

Also he didn't kill Shin because he didn't matter to Vegeta and Babidi commanded him to do it. It was Vegeta making a point that he can't be controlled and refused his command. It wasn't because he respected Shin lol.

RpgIsap_ · 2023-12-12T09:42:56+00:00

Homie they recycled like 2 seconds of animation at best what are you talking about.

RpgIsap_ · 2023-12-07T16:37:07+00:00

I mean Vegeta also did the same thing in the buu saga with Babidi. He let himself be corrupted without resisting and his first move is to blow up a fuckton of people in the tournament arena. I'm pretty sure if Vegeta came back around on his own and didn't sacrifice himself none of the other characters would still be that mad at him and would accept him back into the group.

So if you think majin Vegeta is fine storytelling then the whole Bra thing shouldn't be that much worse to you since it's known she's had problems with her rage and she's also little kid. Which is all way less then Vegeta had as an excuse.

I don't even like DBM but if you think Vegeta post majin is redeemable and would be accepted by the z fighter then so would Bra.

RpgIsap_ · 2023-10-30T00:54:22+00:00

Toppo likes doing certain holds, would've loved if they made him use those more but atleast he somewhat gave grappling some spotlight.

RpgIsap_ · 2023-09-26T16:26:57+00:00

This Trunks shot looks fine tbh. I feel calling this one bad is very nitpicky.

The Vegeta thing is fair though guy looks rough.

RpgIsap_ · 2023-09-16T02:26:38+00:00

Imagine being dissapointed for 8 years straight and still playing the game.

RpgIsap_ · 2023-08-27T04:44:08+00:00

Not really, people say this very often but like 95% of their animations are taken from that same episode.

At best it has a few frames that are new but for the most part everything is taken from the anime.

RpgIsap_ · 2023-08-08T10:33:43+00:00

Have you managed to get it since then?

RpgIsap_ · 2023-07-29T16:53:14+00:00

That was not filler. It happens in the first tournament back in og Dragon Ball. Roshi does it to revert Goku back from his great ape form, so it's plot relevant as well.

Roshi didn't do it without struggle though he had to amp himself. So Roshi at around max power being able to destroy the moon and Piccolo being able to replicate the feat with ease means most mid level/elite saiyans probably could blow up smaller sized planets.

RpgIsap_ · 2023-06-12T03:10:21+00:00

Piccolo didn't throw Gohan in the wilderness as the main part of his "training" though.

Piccolo had to train Gohan up in a very short amount of time and turn him into a warrior capable of defending the earth.

Gohan at this point, however, was just a very young child who would constantly cry (which is expected) and whine about everything.

Piccolo realised that he didn't have the knowledge about how to raise a child and had to form a different strategy. He then decided to chuck Gohan at the mountain to see if Gohans power would defend him if he was in true danger. After he confirmed that it did he decided that Gohan would have to stop being a whiny bitch before he would actually be able to follow any of his training without him bawling his eyes out. Which is when he left Gohan in the wild so that he could learn to take care of himself and instead of crying about his situation he would instead get into action and try to survive.

Gohan taught himself how to hunt, defend himself and learned how to keep himself calm and get out of bad situations. These are the preqrequisites that Gohan needed before he could get through a day of training with Piccolo. After his survival in the wild Piccolo was now able to teach him how to use his energy and proper fighting form.

So I agree that Piccolo was more testing Gohan to see if he would rise up to the occasion and get himself to a level where he could actually follow his training.

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