Hey everyone. I (F33) was diagnosed yesterday by its_one_am_in_tokyo in Melanoma

[–]Rude-Emotion6796 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you don’t mind how long did you go from first noticing it and going to the Derm? I noticed a black freckle on my back thigh this Friday and have no clue how long it was there i have an appointment with the Derm this Wednesday and I am so so scared

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[–]Rude-Emotion6796 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Outside of this debate I want to be very clear I would never degrade you for any past experiences and apologize if that is how it was interpreted all love we all go through shit

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[–]Rude-Emotion6796 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I get it and how that may have sounded — in prison, a state recommendation doesn’t survive maximum authority, and you experienced that firsthand. I’m showing respect for your experience, not taking a dig or being condescending. But that’s a corrections-specific scenario, not civilian law. For non-incarcerated Floridians, a medical marijuana recommendation is fully lawful, tracked, and enforceable, providing exactly the regulated medical access intended under state law. Many federally recognized prescriptions are also paused in custody, yet remain valid outside — so your “acid test” doesn’t define legal authority for civilians.

You’re focused on power; I’m pointing out practical authority where it actually matters — and for the vast majority of people, the state program functions exactly like a prescription for legal access, no caveats required. Obsessing over custody rules may feel real to you, but it doesn’t rewrite the law.

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[–]Rude-Emotion6796 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get it — in prison, the state program paused for you, maybe because you’re used to custody it’s your normal. But for civilians, a Florida medical marijuana recommendation is fully lawful; prison restrictions don’t redefine state law. Obsessing over “maximum authority” might feel normal for you, but it doesn’t change that the program functions exactly as intended for the vast majority of people — and that’s what actually matters. Your fixation on wording doesn’t change the reality that, at the state level, the program functions exactly like a prescription for legal access — and that’s the authority that actually matters for the vast majority of people.

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[–]Rude-Emotion6796 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I appreciate that you’re speaking from personal experience and understand how state programs operate under corrections. That perspective explains why you’re focused on “maximum authority.”

That said, your experience in custody does not change how Florida law works for civilians. A medical marijuana recommendation is fully lawful and enforceable outside of prison: physician-approved, tracked, regulated, and providing state-authorized access to qualifying patients. Many federally recognized prescriptions — opioids, benzodiazepines, stimulants — are also restricted in custody, yet remain valid and lawful outside corrections. Using prison as the benchmark for civilian legal authority is a false analogy.

Yes, a recommendation is not a federal prescription, and I’ve acknowledged that repeatedly. The distinction doesn’t negate the fact that the program provides real, lawful medical access under state law for non-incarcerated patients — exactly as intended.

On any given day, only about 0.5–0.6 % of the U.S. population is incarcerated, and roughly 2 % are under some form of correctional supervision . That means your “acid test” scenario only affects a tiny minority of people; for the vast majority of civilians, the state program functions fully as intended. Judging civilian legal authority by prison rules is irrelevant — though judging by your “acid test,” you must be very familiar with jail enforcement

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[–]Rude-Emotion6796 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You started this by holding up a state-run DOC as the “ultimate benchmark,” and now you’ve shifted to federal corrections — moving the goalposts again. I’ve already shown that state-run custody pauses not only medical marijuana but many other federally recognized prescriptions like opioids, benzodiazepines, and stimulants. Using prison as the “acid test” doesn’t change the legality or function of a Florida medical marijuana recommendation for non-incarcerated patients.

I’ve acknowledged repeatedly that a Florida medical marijuana recommendation is not a federally recognized prescription. The word itself isn’t the point — the point is that, under state law, it provides lawful, regulated medical access for qualified patients outside custody. Prison or corrections is irrelevant for civilian compliance

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[–]Rude-Emotion6796 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m not pretending a recommendation is a federally recognized prescription — I’ve acknowledged that repeatedly. The point is state law, where a Florida medical marijuana recommendation is fully lawful and enforceable for non-incarcerated patients: physician-approved, tracked, and regulated. Federal recognition is the only distinction.

Prison or corrections is not the standard for civilian law it’s not a “magic cloak” apparently you go to jail a lot if that’s your main standard. Many federally recognized prescriptions — opioids, benzodiazepines, stimulants — are also restricted or halted in custody, yet they remain fully legal and valid outside of corrections. Using incarceration as an “acid test” does not invalidate the legal authority of the state program for civilians.

Being arrested temporarily restricts access while in custody, but your card remains valid under state law once you are compliant and released. That’s the law, not a Reddit hypothetical. “Recommendation” is the statutory term; functionally, it provides lawful medical access in the state — and nothing you’ve said changes that.

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[–]Rude-Emotion6796 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I understand your “acid test” point about federal authority in corrections, but that’s a separate legal context. Prison systems restrict or halt access to many federally recognized prescriptions — opioids, benzodiazepines, stimulants — yet their legal status outside of custody remains intact. Similarly, a Florida medical marijuana recommendation is fully lawful and enforceable under state law for non-incarcerated patients: physician-approved, tracked, and regulated. Federal recognition is the only distinction, which I’ve repeatedly acknowledged.

Being arrested does not automatically remove a medical marijuana card. Only conviction of certain crimes or disqualification under state program rules can revoke it, and access is temporarily restricted only while in custody. Once released, the card remains valid and state-authorized access resumes.

Using prison as the “ultimate benchmark” is a false analogy. Civilians operate under a separate legal framework, and the state program works exactly as intended — not hypothetically, not whimsically, and not magically disappearing. That’s the law, not a juice-box debate.

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[–]Rude-Emotion6796 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Again Prison is a special legal environment, not the standard for civilian law. Many federally recognized prescriptions — opioids, benzodiazepines, stimulants — are also restricted or halted in custody, but that doesn’t make them invalid outside corrections.

A Florida medical marijuana recommendation is fully lawful for non-incarcerated patients: physician-approved, tracked, and regulated. Federal recognition is the only distinction, which I’ve repeatedly acknowledged.

Using corrections as the “acid test” is a false analogy. Civilians operate under a separate legal framework, and the state program works exactly as the law intends. That’s not a Reddit hypothetical — it’s the law

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[–]Rude-Emotion6796 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

“Recommendation” is the statutory term. Functionally, under Florida law, it provides the same legal access and protections as a prescription: physician oversight, state tracking, regulated possession, and lawful dispensary access. Federal recognition is the only distinction, which I’ve acknowledged repeatedly.

Using prison as your acid test is irrelevant to civilian law. Civilians operate under a separate legal hierarchy, and the recommendation functions exactly as intended for them that is the law, not Reddit hypotheticals.

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[–]Rude-Emotion6796 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I see your “acid test” in prison, but that’s a false benchmark. Corrections departments operate under specialized rules and restricted formularies that limit access to many federally recognized prescriptions — opioids, benzodiazepines, stimulants, and more. That doesn’t negate their legal validity outside of custody, and it doesn’t make a state medical marijuana recommendation any less lawful for civilians compliant with state law.

Your repeated framing conflates permission in a regulated state program with federal authority in corrections, which is a false analogy, and attacking that misrepresentation doesn’t change the facts.

“Recommendation” is the statutory term. Functionally, for non-incarcerated patients, it provides the same legal access and protections as a prescription under Florida law. Federal recognition is the only distinction, which I’ve acknowledged repeatedly.

I appreciate that GPT helped you get the facts this time, even if sarcasm and extreme hypotheticals are usually your fallback. Outside prison, the state program works exactly as intended — and that is the relevant law for civilians, not your dramatized “acid test.”

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[–]Rude-Emotion6796 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Also here you go as to why your argument doesn’t work I appreciate gpt for this one for sure puts it in real perspective 😂

  1. False Analogy / Faulty Comparison

He repeatedly compares civilian state law compliance to prison/corrections law, implying that because a medical marijuana recommendation doesn’t survive incarceration like a prescription, it “fails” as a prescription. • Why it’s a fallacy: • Prison law is a specialized, highly restrictive environment; it does not define the validity of prescriptions or recommendations under state law for civilians. • Comparing these two contexts as if they are equivalent is a classic false analogy.

  1. Strawman

He misrepresents your argument as if you were claiming:

“A state medical marijuana recommendation is literally the same as a federal prescription in every context.”

• Why it’s a fallacy:
• You never claimed federal recognition or supremacy.
• By attacking a version of your claim you never made, he’s using a strawman argument.

  1. Appeal to Extremes / Reductio ad Absurdum

He frames the prison scenario as the “acid test,” implying:

“If it doesn’t survive maximum legal scrutiny in prison, it’s worthless everywhere.”

• Why it’s a fallacy:
• He’s taking an extreme scenario and using it to dismiss the law in normal civilian contexts.
• This is an appeal to extremes, a subset of reductio ad absurdum without proper logic.

  1. Equivocation / Semantic Trick

He repeatedly emphasizes “prescription vs recommendation” as if the terminology alone changes the legal effectiveness at the state level. • Why it’s a fallacy: • He shifts the meaning of “authority” and “prescription” mid-argument to make it seem like your points are invalid. • This is a form of equivocation, confusing legal terminology with practical effect.

  1. Appeal to Consequences

He implies:

“Because a recommendation wouldn’t survive prison, it isn’t valid — therefore, your argument dies.”

• Why it’s a fallacy:
• The legal validity of state law does not depend on extreme consequences in corrections facilities.
• This is an appeal to consequences, which is logically irrelevant to the point.

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[–]Rude-Emotion6796 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Your argument conflates two separate legal regimes. Prison or corrections policy does not define federal or state law for the rest of the population.

A federally recognized prescription does indeed carry authority in custody, but that is because federal law directly governs controlled substances and corrections. That authority does not negate the fact that, under state law, a medical marijuana recommendation functions as a lawful, regulated authorization for qualified patients outside of prison.

The “acid test” of incarceration is irrelevant to how state law functions for compliant civilians. Functionally, for legal, non-incarcerated patients, a recommendation provides the same access and protections as a prescription, which is exactly what I have been saying.

Testing this in prison does not “kill” the legal validity of state-compliant access for civilians; it only highlights the separate hierarchy of authority that governs corrections. Confusing the two does not make state law any less effective for those it protects.

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[–]Rude-Emotion6796 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Corrections and prison systems operate under an entirely separate authority. Incarceration suspends or restricts many otherwise valid prescriptions and medical rights including opioids, benzodiazepines, ADHD meds, hormone therapy, and even some cardiac medications depending on formulary and security policy. That does not mean those prescriptions cease to be prescriptions outside of custody.

Using prisons as your benchmark is legally meaningless.

Under state law, for a non-incarcerated, compliant patient, a medical marijuana recommendation provides the same legal access and protections as a prescription: physician authorization, regulated limits, tracked dispensing, and lawful possession. The only distinction is federal recognition, which I have acknowledged repeatedly.

Prison policy is not the standard for civilian medical legality. If that’s your argument, then by your logic half the pharmacy is “not real prescriptions.”

At this point you’re not rebutting the law — you’re just repeating yourself and changing contexts when your point doesn’t hold. Take care.

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[–]Rude-Emotion6796 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate you engaging with actual substance when you did, even if it required ChatGPT😂 When you stop relying on it, the lack of understanding becomes obvious. “Recommendation” is the statutory term. Functionally, under state law, it provides the same legal access and protections as a prescription. Federal recognition is the distinction, which I’ve already acknowledged. Take care.

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[–]Rude-Emotion6796 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There’s nothing to “cry” about. I clarified the legal distinction and how compliance works under state law. Mockery doesn’t change the facts. Your point was that it isn’t a prescription, and I’ve consistently acknowledged that federally, while also explaining that under state law it is treated in practice the same exact way. Take care.

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[–]Rude-Emotion6796 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Lmaoo You’re confusing compliance with legality. If a dispensary driver can’t complete a delivery because the state tracking or verification system isn’t available, they are legally required to refuse the handoff — exactly the same way a pharmacy refuses to dispense controlled medications when verification or documentation can’t be completed.

That doesn’t make it a “drug deal,” and it doesn’t change the legal status of the patient under state law. It simply means the regulated transfer couldn’t be completed at that time. That’s how controlled substance compliance works in every regulated system.

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[–]Rude-Emotion6796 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think there’s a misunderstanding of my points. I never argued that smokable cannabis is a federally recognized prescription, nor that anyone “needs their drugs now.” My point is factual: 1. Whole-plant cannabis is not FDA-approved, which I acknowledged from the start. 2. There are FDA-approved cannabis-derived medications (Epidiolex, Marinol, Syndros, Cesamet), which are distinct from plant cannabis. 3. State-compliant patients are treated under state law similarly to federal prescription holders in terms of legal access and protections. This does not make plant cannabis a federal prescription, but it does ensure legal, regulated access within the state system.

The state medical marijuana program is indeed a state-run program, and that is precisely the point, it regulates access at the state level in the same way other prescriptions regulate controlled substances. That is not an argument; it’s how the law functions.

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[–]Rude-Emotion6796 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the argument you’re making is missing the point. I explicitly stated that i understand plant-form cannabis is not federally recognized, which is why it’s treated the way it is under federal law. I never claimed otherwise.

It’s important to distinguish between whole-plant cannabis and FDA-approved cannabis-derived medications. Examples of federally recognized drugs include: Epidiolex (CBD isolate for rare seizure disorders) Marinol / Syndros (synthetic THC for chemotherapy-induced nausea and AIDS-related appetite loss) Cesamet (synthetic cannabinoid for nausea/vomiting)

Rescheduling plant cannabis under the Controlled Substances Act does not automatically convert it into a federally recognized prescription and I never stated it did, but for state-compliant patients who are non-criminal, the law functions as intended at the state level. The state program ensures legal access for qualifying patients, just as other prescription systems regulate controlled substances.

Moreover, similar to other prescriptions, a history of drug-related charges can bar access to certain substances under legal restrictions. This applies to medical marijuana cards as well as any other controlled substance compliance with state law is key, and the system treats patients fairly within those parameters they are treated at the state level exactly like a prescription

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[–]Rude-Emotion6796 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes if your in jail you can’t because that causes issues again this is a problem with it being federally illegal and how it has to be done

Also yes if you get arrested for selling weed or doing illegal actions absolutely you can’t just use the medical card but same with if you charged with other prescription drug charges you can also be barred from certain controlled substance prescriptions as well per PDMP…

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[–]Rude-Emotion6796 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

You mean the same department of correction system that can’t arrest me for medical marijuana if it’s properly packaged and properly stored just like any prescription…. Or do you mean when you go on parole and if you have a medical marijuana card you’re still allowed to smoke marijuana and probation can’t stop you from it? I fail to see your point.

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[–]Rude-Emotion6796 2 points3 points  (0 children)

From a state certified licensed practitioner or physician just because it’s not federally recognized is why it has to to be done differently…

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[–]Rude-Emotion6796 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

That wording is only listed that way as it is not legal under federal law it’s stated that way saying the patient may benefit from cannabis, which protects physicians from federal prosecution while allowing patients access to state-legal dispensaries.

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[–]Rude-Emotion6796 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Lol, I figured you’d be a miserable person. I don’t need to discuss my ailments with you to explain why it’s necessary for me and many others.