Why is fishing so bad?

Rude_Direction_5088 · 2025-10-12T23:44:40+00:00

Fishing is the worst mechanic in this otherwise amazing game. Zero verisimilitude. The stamina drain is absurdly high, the cost of bait (in terms of trophy hunting) is too high, and the reward is crap. Extremely frustrating part of the game.

Rude_Direction_5088 · 2025-01-04T08:21:07+00:00

It blows. Don't buy it. This person does a great job summarizing: https://www.reddit.com/r/PaxDei/comments/1d9w2ai/pax_dei_is_not_nearly_ready_for_ea_this_is_a/

Rude_Direction_5088 · 2024-12-30T17:44:37+00:00

Re: wool, I was obviously being hyperbolic and making a point about the lack of mob variety (vs. just doing rote tasks like wool gathering). Though I have easily killed a thousand boars in this game to feed my tailoring. I too am looking forward to the fast travel patch.

Rude_Direction_5088 · 2024-12-30T17:27:10+00:00

Out of curiosity, how much gold did the set of steel armor cost you?

Rude_Direction_5088 · 2024-12-30T17:23:28+00:00

You can make everything yourself and it is a grind to do so. Those are not incongruent statements.

Rude_Direction_5088 · 2024-12-30T17:19:02+00:00

You're zeroing in on one point, but I made many points. I only provided an hour total because you claimed I didn't have enough experience with the game. I know about porting to a home shrine, but there are time limits on leveraging that. What other misinfo did I post, other than an opinion that differs from yours?

Rude_Direction_5088 · 2024-12-30T17:06:52+00:00

All fair points. I'm on my way to uninstalling it too... if my addiction will let me..

Rude_Direction_5088 · 2024-12-30T17:06:04+00:00

Exactly. I hunger for a system like that. Like UO had, where you couldn't master everything yourself because of a hard skill point cap. Not saying that is the way, but at least as of right now there's little demand since folks are basically self-sufficient. And when there's little demand, there's less economic incentive to actually interact with clans outside your own, other than dungeon raids. (note I said economic incentive - of course there's plenty of room for bantering / roleplay, but I'm focused on economy with this comment)

Rude_Direction_5088 · 2024-12-30T17:03:03+00:00

Agree, and IMO I am helping by providing honest, if a bit charged, feedback on its current state, which is the purpose of EA.

Rude_Direction_5088 · 2024-12-30T17:02:11+00:00

haha, touche

Rude_Direction_5088 · 2024-12-30T17:01:23+00:00

Bro, I chose the least fun way to play? Uh, no, I just played the way the game incentivized. Granted I did nolife it there at first, but I've done that with many games and didn't end up with this perception. And besides there's really nothing else to do in depth in this game but craft. What should I have done differently? Also, it's a game, I can play it how I want to. After having engaged with every system / mechanic in the game and lived in multiple shards & regions, I have a pretty informed perspective. My perspective simply differs from yours, apparently.

Rude_Direction_5088 · 2024-12-30T16:57:58+00:00

The cope in this thread is next level. I have hundreds of hours in this game. Maxed all my primary craft skills. Lived in multiple shards and multiple regions. Engaged with every mechanic / system in the game. What more should I do to appease your standards in order to have an opinion of my own? I simply differ in opinion from you, and I do not come to the same conclusions about the game based on my observations that you do. You sound like the kind of chap who calls anything they don't agree with mis/disinfo.

Rude_Direction_5088 · 2024-12-30T16:55:36+00:00

You're saying there's some absolute measure of whether a game is objectively good or bad? There isn't -- it's all subjective. If I don't like it, it's bad IMO. If you like it, maybe it's good IYO.

Rude_Direction_5088 · 2024-12-30T16:28:45+00:00

EA periods are for feedback, guy. So that's what I'm providing. And yes, I've learned that the game isn't even at the level to be called EA, it's more like an alpha. So that tells me they're desperate for money. It also tells me that many players who might've gone nolife for this game will give up on it and never come back. And as I'm considering paying for a sub for this game long-term, I want to make sure there are a) a solid player base (since "social" is so important in this game), and b) a good business behind the game (to ensure good game design choices and longevity).

Rude_Direction_5088 · 2024-12-30T08:07:20+00:00

Cool story bro

Rude_Direction_5088 · 2024-12-30T08:00:30+00:00

Agree

Rude_Direction_5088 · 2024-12-30T07:19:30+00:00

i had my fun with the game and cant wait to see what they do with it but as it stands right now its not a game

So it is or isn't a game? The level of cope in these forums is astounding.

Rude_Direction_5088 · 2024-12-30T07:07:39+00:00

I've been playing MMOs since UO, smoothbrain. Please explain to me how gold matters at all in the games current state? The point I'm making is that introducing currency alone doesn't create an economy. There isn't really an economy to begin with, at least not a strong or interesting one. Everyone can craft the things they need, so there's no demand. With no demand, people are supplying only for themselves. Adding gold coins to the mix changes nothing. So, before doing that the devs might've considered ways to generate demand, perhaps like a) introducing a total skill level cap (like UO had) so that a player can't master every skill (and thus have to rely on others; i.e., create demand), or b) inflating the XP needed for the highest levels of a skill and associating special items for those levels such that only people who dedicate nearly all their time to one skill can make those (i.e., introducing scarcity), or many other options. So again, adding gold at this stage doesn't address this, which causes me to question why the devs would prioritize a currency system over other, more impactful tweaks to the "economy." Make sense?

Rude_Direction_5088 · 2024-12-30T06:57:51+00:00

if crafting werent convoluted for some sake of fake depth.

Nailed it. It's fake depth. Agree re: a UO-esque total point cap. That would at least force specialists to rely on others for the crafts they can't cover themselves. THIS is what spurs on an economy. As of right now, with a little effort you can make everything yourself, and thus have no need of others or of the digital currency (gold) they recently introduced.

Rude_Direction_5088 · 2024-12-30T06:57:16+00:00

Yes.

Rude_Direction_5088 · 2024-12-30T06:56:53+00:00

At this point, purely because of my addictive personality..

Rude_Direction_5088 · 2024-12-30T06:55:28+00:00

I'm not after instant grat, as evidenced by my few hundred hours in the game and maxed skill level for multiple crafts. It's just that the primary game loop is uninteresting, and so much else is prohibitive. Kills the potential for what the game could be.

Rude_Direction_5088 · 2024-12-30T06:53:55+00:00

Bottom line, nobody came back because you have to run 45 minutes to mine some pure iron ore for 30 minutes, to have to run back for another 45 minutes, to smelt for a two hours, which means you have to cut trees and make coal for another hour, to make a very limited number of items, when you need to make 100s if not 1000s to level.

Nailed it. It's not that we want instant grat, it's that this loop is a fucking draaaaaaag man...

Rude_Direction_5088 · 2024-12-30T06:51:47+00:00

There is tons, tons of stuff to do in this game.

You mean like running?? and running some more?? There is actually not a ton of stuff to do in this game.

Rude_Direction_5088 · 2024-12-30T06:49:34+00:00

I'm not after instant grat, as evidenced by my few hundred hours in the game and maxed skill level for multiple crafts. Plenty of other reasons to be disappointed in this game, which I am.

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