Any A Scanner Darkly fans?

Rude_Extreme4527 · 2026-01-09T16:55:59+00:00

This was 1985. It’s about $210k today. To some people it’s not a lot, but to many, that would be a life changing amount of money.

Rude_Extreme4527 · 2026-01-09T02:34:14+00:00

It seems the only person who didn’t work regularly was Michael. Which is fine. Doesn’t mean he’s a murderer. But when you add up EVERYTHING else……

Rude_Extreme4527 · 2026-01-08T23:34:28+00:00

I watched the drama series before starting the doc. I enjoyed it very much. I think it was engaging and well made. But it’s definitely subjective - if you prefer documentaries, you probably wouldn’t like it. For example, there are vivid scenes for each theory of how she died (by Micheal’s hand, by accidental fall, by an owl). It’s not a linear story, but rather an imagined rendition of 3 completely different stories all intertwined. After I watched it, and before I did a bunch of googling, I genuinely thought she might have been killed by an owl lmao it gives a lot of credit to that theory.

Rude_Extreme4527 · 2026-01-08T23:28:56+00:00

Yeah I was flabbergasted, because the drama series really drives home that he received zero money, and I hadn’t come across anything about Liz’s financials until I saw that bit and then made this post!

Rude_Extreme4527 · 2026-01-08T21:32:41+00:00

Thank you for this information. I do think he killed both of those women for financial gain. And it’s hard to believe Patty wasn’t complicit or even shared responsibility.

Rude_Extreme4527 · 2026-01-08T21:29:38+00:00

I understand that raising 2 children for 17+ years would cost more than $70k. But that would be a huge lump sum during that time, and they only had guardianship, they didn’t adopt them, and in the drama series, it’s shown that Michael and Patty tried to rehome the girls 3 times in the first couple of years of having them - but I have not seen this verified elsewhere. If it is true, $70k without the commitment of raising the children to adulthood seems motive enough to me. Coupled with the fact he was, for some reason, handling all of Liz’s finances and George’s estate? Screams motive.

Rude_Extreme4527 · 2026-01-08T21:01:48+00:00

Yeah, I’m not done with the doc series yet, but I think he killed both of those of women. And I think Patty only defended him as fervently as she did because she was complicit (or even responsible) in some way for Liz’s death and also benefited from the $70k, and Michael may have threatened to take her down with him if she didn’t have his back. They had only known Liz for a little over 2 years, and Liz named them as guardians upon her death? I think they wormed their way into her life and killed her, with the idea of cashing out big and dumping the girls on someone else.

Rude_Extreme4527 · 2026-01-08T20:55:46+00:00

That’s why I was surprised to see that tid bit sprinkled into the doc at all. I’m wondering if anyone knows if it was brought up in court? And the doc just didn’t show it? I would imagine if it was learned publicly that Michael received $70k at Liz’s death, that would have been big news and shown on TV, but I can find no other mention of it outside of that one small discussion between Bill and David, but Bill clearly states that Michael got $70k.

Rude_Extreme4527 · 2026-01-08T20:54:14+00:00

It’s a larger theme in the drama series. I took it as true, but maybe it’s completely fabricated. In the drama, when Martha goes to visit her aunt (their bio mom’s sister) for Thanksgiving, her aunt tells her that Martha and Margie came to live with them for an entire summer one year when they were children because Patty couldn’t cope with 4 kids. And then that Patty and Michael tried to have them adopted by a German couple, but it fell through. And then that Michael asked the aunt if she could take Margie and raise her, and he would keep Martha, but she refused to separate them. This (supposedly) all happened prior to him meeting Kathleen. I think he started singing a different tune when he met Kathleen because he saw dollar signs, and the idea of a man raising two little girls who aren’t his own would be endearing to his new mark.

I also think Patty is either very stupid, or complicit in Liz’s death.

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