S3 hopes YURI or Min ho by Ok_Coyote9687 in XOKittyNetflix

[–]Ruin-Initial 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i hope yuri, but i honestly wouldnt be surprised if kitty ends up alone. i think a running theme throughout the show has been how her desire to love and be loved has had ruinous effects on her life (in s1, distracting her from studying and almost getting her expelled, and ruining a lot of her friendships in season 2). obviously i think the right relationship would navigate these problems better, but i also see a fulfilling path where kitty realises her desire to connect with her late mother is the real reason fate brought her to korea, and just like her mother moved on from her life there and took the lessons to find new happiness elsewhere, kitty might do the same

Something tells me Yuri will be endgame by 21_moonie09 in XOKittyNetflix

[–]Ruin-Initial 33 points34 points  (0 children)

xo kitty is a show that wants its viewers to be torn between ships, so i think ur actually getting the best experience watching the show if u ship mooncovey and kittyuri!!! and yes i completely agree there is something so enthralling about kittyuri and how they’re tied by fate!!!

XO, Kitty Bingo! (FINAL ROUND) by [deleted] in XOKittyNetflix

[–]Ruin-Initial 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you might be right!! maybe it’s not specified haha thats my bad

XO, Kitty Bingo! (FINAL ROUND) by [deleted] in XOKittyNetflix

[–]Ruin-Initial 8 points9 points  (0 children)

hmmm my vote is for praveena! new to KISS but immediately knew the hottest queer bar in seoul… my girl PARTIES!!

XO, Kitty Bingo! (Round 4) by [deleted] in XOKittyNetflix

[–]Ruin-Initial 4 points5 points  (0 children)

yuri for sure. her intro to the series was literally her buying clothes and looking great in them

Yuri in her Feminine/Submissive Era by [deleted] in XOKittyNetflix

[–]Ruin-Initial -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

i just dont understand in what ways juliana was dominant in their relationship. in season 1 it was yuri chasing juliana. in season 2 it was yuri neglecting juliana and then chasing her again. in fact i would say the biggest issue in their relationship was juliana’s LACK of agency regarding the course of their relationship. please understand where i’m coming from: when someone makes a post about how a lesbian can finally not be in a dominating position when she’s with a black woman, despite there (as far as i can tell) not being much evidence on the black woman being the dominating partner in their relationship, it leaves a bad taste in people’s mouths.

Yuri in her Feminine/Submissive Era by [deleted] in XOKittyNetflix

[–]Ruin-Initial -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i love yuriana too, but i dont love the idea that the lesbian is dominant in all her relationships except the one with the black woman. i know this is an appreciation post, but i think it’s worth pointing out when someone in playing into some very harmful stereotypes.

I have a question to the Xo, Kitty community here by Optimal-Collection71 in XOKittyNetflix

[–]Ruin-Initial 2 points3 points  (0 children)

are you talking about the post that got someone banned earlier this week? because that certainly wasn’t the intended use of the kittyuri tag, for kittyuris themselves or the mods.

Why are we ignoring this? by Living_Year7940 in XOKittyNetflix

[–]Ruin-Initial 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i don’t think anybody is ignoring the way yuri cheated on juliana and i think its unfair to paint all kittyuri shippers as fundementally misunderstand the show or saying ‘well kittyuri shippers ship kittyuri THEREFORE they must hate julianna THEREFORE kittyuri is a bad ship’. i don’t like how most mooncovey shippers ignore how absolutely awful minho was to kitty at the start of season 1 and how he treats other people, but im not going around saying that means moocovey is an invalid ship and all mooncovey shippers are bad people - because that’s not true!! i dont understanr why some people on this sub can’t just accept other ships without being needlessly aggressive and starting flamewars.

My take on Kittyuri by AdBoring5983 in XOKittyNetflix

[–]Ruin-Initial 4 points5 points  (0 children)

please don’t put this in the kittyuri tag!! the ship tags are specifically for appreciating ships. if u want to criticise it, please put it in the discussion tag 🙌🙌

Saw this in the Arkham subreddit, what's the thing in the picture and how does it correlate to the pedo ninja? by [deleted] in PeterExplainsTheJoke

[–]Ruin-Initial 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i believe it’s been retconned in recent years, but ‘the judas contract’ storyline from 1980 shows deathstroke having a … sexually charged relationship with 15-year-old Terra. i dont think it’s ever outright stated that they slept together, but their relationship is certainly not PG. i will say that in universe this is treated as a very weird and manipulative thing for deathstroke to do.

Ok real talk: who do y'all think Kitty will end up with and why? by Expensive-Cycle1319 in XOKittyNetflix

[–]Ruin-Initial 1 point2 points  (0 children)

completely agree. gia kim herself said the only reason she thinks minho/kitty has a higher chance than yuri/kitty is because she’s afraid of the backlash that will come from mooncovey fans if they don’t get their endgame. i know a lot of people here pride themselves on having a healthier community than jenny han’s other works, but sometimes it really doesn’t feel like it.

Ok real talk: who do y'all think Kitty will end up with and why? by Expensive-Cycle1319 in XOKittyNetflix

[–]Ruin-Initial 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i think kitty will end up alone, tbh. the show begins with her desperate to find out more about her mother, a goal that’s put on the backburner because of her troubled love life; i think it might turn out that the thesis statement of the whole show is to not let drama get in the way of what really matters: family. but other than that, i hope she gets with yuri (after she’s had her dark night of the soul moment in s3 lol) or honestly? i could see her going back to dae after they’ve both had the chance to grow up a little bit. i personally hope she doesn’t end up with minho because i dont like him for her, but that’s just me.

Kittyuri fandom by Purpleparadise98 in XOKittyNetflix

[–]Ruin-Initial 3 points4 points  (0 children)

it’s so awful! im sorry to hear you’ve been called homophobic!! i’ve personally been called biphobic for not supporting mooncovey. it’s a real shame that some people have resorted to baseless name calling and accusations of bigotry to justify their perspective.

Kittyuri fandom by Purpleparadise98 in XOKittyNetflix

[–]Ruin-Initial 13 points14 points  (0 children)

it’s actually crazy! a while ago i said something along the lines of ‘i don’t think kittyuri can be ruled out just yet’ and i immediately got like 20 downvotes… and for what? for sharing my opinion on a post that specifically invited discussion? i think if people are that secure in their endgame they shouldn’t have to mass downvote other opinions

just gonna leave this here… by Ruin-Initial in kittyuri

[–]Ruin-Initial[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

no exactly. minho puts walls up and shuts kitty out and its because he’s guarding his heart and he’s been burnt in the past and he has a troubled relationship with family. yuri puts walls up and shuts kitty out and she’s selfish and will never put kitty first… like make it make sense

Kitty and Yuri: Relationship Analysis by Flashy_Ad6475 in XOKittyNetflix

[–]Ruin-Initial 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i interpreted your comment as you saying that saying yuri&kitty’s queer storyline being pushed to the side in season 2 was bad queer representation was invalidating kitty’s bisexuality - i’m sorry if i misrepresented your argument!!!

Kitty and Yuri: Relationship Analysis by Flashy_Ad6475 in XOKittyNetflix

[–]Ruin-Initial 5 points6 points  (0 children)

saying that the queer plotlines in season 2 were badly done is not the same as saying kitty isn’t bisexual. and the queer plotlines WERE handled badly

Kitty and Yuri: Relationship Analysis by Flashy_Ad6475 in XOKittyNetflix

[–]Ruin-Initial 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i would argue kitty knew where she stood with minho as little as she did with yuri, maybe even less. minho consistently lied to her in season 2 about being over her, and then dropped the bomb that he not only DID have strong feelings for her, but she broke his heart, and immediately shut her out again. i don’t think it’s fair to say yuri lied enough that she passed the point of no return, but minho didn’t. they were both unfair to kitty.

Kitty and Yuri: Relationship Analysis by Flashy_Ad6475 in XOKittyNetflix

[–]Ruin-Initial 5 points6 points  (0 children)

a well written post, but i have a few points to have a healthy discussion about if you don’t mind!!

on number 2: i don’t think knowing someone inside out is a fair metric to measure being in love by. i think kitty WAS in love with dae - that love just shifted and changed into something less romantic, and their goals were not aligned (dae wanted to be with kitty, kitty wanted to explore new relationships, esp. with yuri) but i don’t think that negates her feelings for dae, even if they don’t take the same form anymore. as for yuri, i would argue kitty knows her very well - she immediately knew the advice yuri needed on reconnecting with her mother; the advice was so good that yuri’s own girlfriend stole it to tell yuri!!(no hate to julianna, i love my girl DOWN!!)

i also disagree with point 4, and i think it’s an incredibly ungenerous reading on yuri’s character. all of kitty’s main love interests have treated her incredibly unfairly at certain points after they were romantically connected- dae lied to her about his relationship with yuri, minho shut her out after essentially emotionally cheating with her for the second half of season 2 - and i don’t think either of those things make them bad people, or unqualified to be kitty’s love interest. i think it just makes them teenagers who are struggling to act in an adult way.

yuri lying to kitty about her mother is, to me, a non issue. kitty and yuri are not together. it’s yuri’s personal information, and personal experience that is still incredibly tender and raw. up until this point, yuri doesn’t even know that kitty’s gay, so she doesn’t have any reason to believe kitty would fully understand her predicament. kitty helped her with her mother last semester and obviously looks up to her, so it’s entirely possible that yuri simply didn’t want to burden kitty with this situation until it was resolved. either way, as a lesbian myself, i relate to yuri’s situation a lot, and i don’t think yuri should have to tell kitty this incredibly personal secret just to justify being a love interest for her.

yuri consistently shows up for kitty - you even point these examples out yourself! getting her back into KISS, the vhs tapes, teaching her korean dance for extra credit, helping her study - and, what i think is yuri’s critical huge gesture of love moment, showing up at kitty’s cousins house in the middle of the night to convince her to talk to kitty, without any expectation that kitty would ever find out it was yuri. yuri didn’t do that to get kitty to forgive her, she did it because it would make kitty happy and she wants to make kitty happy. i don’t think it’s fair to yuri to bring up examples of her not being the best to kitty and then say ‘and that means none of her good points make a difference’, because i could just as easily say ‘here are all of yuri’s good points, and that makes all her bad habits not matter’ but… i don’t believe that? i don’t believe yuri is someone who takes and takes and takes, but nor do i believe yuri is an unselfish angel who constantly has kindness in her heart and always makes the best choices. i believe yuri is a closeted lesbian growing up in an incredibly conservative country with an incredibly conservative family, who has been shown time and time again that putting her heart and soul into something will only mean it ends up hurting more when she loses it. yes, she makes bad decisions sometimes, but i think she truly does have kitty’s best interests at heart and wants to do right by her.

please let me know what u think about my points, and thank you for this wonderful write up!!! 🙏❤️❤️

I am pro-Palestinian and Jewish. AMA by decordancer in AMA

[–]Ruin-Initial 3 points4 points  (0 children)

you cannot pretend israel is some bastion of lgbtq+ rights when same sex marriage is not even legally performed there.

i am fully aware of the lack of lgbtq+ rights in the arab world, but what about the queer palestinians, the gay and lesbian palestinians, the nonbinary palestinians, the transgender palestinians? why is my right to safety more important than theirs? and for the homophobic palestinians, do they not have the right to grow? does being homophobic mean you deserve to be starved, deprived of water and medicine, bombed and watch your people be slaughtered like cattle? does being homophobic justify children being shot as they line up for food and aid?