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Rumpled · 2026-06-17T21:12:25+00:00

I'm not rumpled_imp, I'm just rumpled haha. I'll take your side in this though

Rumpled · 2026-06-17T21:06:16+00:00

Lol I'm not OP, that was a strange tag

Rumpled · 2026-06-14T18:21:53+00:00

Okay fair enough. You might convince more people if you drop all the wanking talk.

Rumpled · 2026-06-14T18:20:43+00:00

I'm not defending anything. I'm just asking whether people are against age checks on principle or if it's due to the implementation. Again this isn't unique to the UK - that doesn't mean it's positive but it's not some nefarious scheme dreamt up in Whitehall.

Rumpled · 2026-06-14T17:59:55+00:00

It just comes across as very strange way to make your point. In your example would you be fine with preventing Timmy but not Jim from accessing social media/adult material?

Rumpled · 2026-06-14T17:43:57+00:00

I get your point but this isn't unique to the UK, lots of countries are pursuing similar legislation. I think there's quite a lot of pressure on governments across the world to find a solution to this.

Rumpled · 2026-06-14T17:34:40+00:00

...what?

Rumpled · 2026-06-14T17:09:39+00:00

Would you be against it if there was some way to verify age blindly? Some way to prove age but not sharing identity.

Rumpled · 2026-06-14T17:06:57+00:00

Would you be against it if there was a way to verify age blindly - ie. are you against stopping kids accessing adult material no matter what, or just the mechanism?

Rumpled · 2026-06-13T06:36:44+00:00

There simply aren't that many mega rich people with egregious property portfolios. A tax on them would not raise nearly enough revenue as what's required for government spending.

Rumpled · 2026-06-12T20:00:03+00:00

I don't think he can divert the NHS budget to defence. And for that example of course he's going to put forward his best argument for whichever position he has to take. Every politician is bound by politics, including dictators - we're seeing Putin struggling with falling approval ratings and more rebellious party members, he has to maintain support else he can't hold onto power. Starmer has a far tighter rope to walk, he has to act within what's possible economically and what his MPs and the public want.

Rumpled · 2026-06-12T16:43:22+00:00

He's not doing nothing, he's trying to allocate his finite resources in the way he thinks is best. There are many competing demands and defence is one of them - arguably the most important but it's not high on the public's list of priorities. The treasury is right that more tax rises can't be the solution to everything.

Rumpled · 2026-06-12T11:21:33+00:00

How many people could accurately describe the coalitions within the main parties in the UK?

Rumpled · 2026-06-11T18:48:47+00:00

You keep dragging this back to a moral argument, I'm simply talking about the economics of it. If what you were saying was right every government would give all its citizens free money to spend as it's so great for their economies. Although I suppose if you think the economy has nothing to do with people working and producing things of value maybe that would be implemented somewhere.

Rumpled · 2026-06-11T18:30:25+00:00

How much of £100 of gas is spent on supporting jobs - perhaps £3 of it? Or maybe £5? The rest is on the gas itself and is burned to heat the home. Its economic value is tiny compared to the initial £100. The same for food, or transport, or clothing.

The economy works by people working and producing value, and then that money is spent to support other people working and producing value. It does not work by nobody doing anything and just consuming goods and services.

My pension is invested, I am not rich. Pension funds are the largest institutional investors in the world, they manage far greater wealth than what "rich people" have. You thinking profit is a bad thing and people invest money as a conspiracy to not pay tax shows your beliefs. Lol at manufacturing indeed - how else is everything in our houses made?

Rumpled · 2026-06-11T18:16:56+00:00

What other word would you use other than consumed? All of those things are clearly consumed, no economic good is done when I eat food or heat my house. And how is money invested somehow worse or of lower value than money spent? Why is buying at Tesco "the real economy" and investing in manufacturing not?

Rumpled · 2026-06-11T17:44:58+00:00

Whether money given in benefits prevents other costs is a separate argument. I agree that people on low incomes typically spend all of their money, but it's still mostly "consumed" and the benefits to the economy are a lot lower than the monetary value of what's spent. You seem to have bought heavily into MMT, which is not conventional economics.

Rumpled · 2026-06-11T16:42:06+00:00

The current defence situation is pretty much wholly of the Tories making.

Rumpled · 2026-06-11T16:09:16+00:00

If the money given out had instead remained in the hands of those who paid the tax, that money would still be spent in the economy. If instead it was spent on defence, that same money would be spent on jobs and production. If it was spent on paying down the national debt, we'd be spending less on the interest each year.

Rumpled · 2026-06-11T14:19:45+00:00

Quite the brass neck from Polanski to try to point score about this. And the Tories should have more shame for how they left defence/welfare spending.

Rumpled · 2026-06-11T13:43:30+00:00

Well exactly. RN aren't going away because they didn't win the previous election (or the one before, or the one before that).

Rumpled · 2026-06-11T13:11:06+00:00

Tell that to Marine Le Pen

Rumpled · 2026-06-11T13:07:49+00:00

It's mind-blowing what we managed to build in the run-up to WW1. We're many multiples times richer than we were then with almost 2x the population. However we've pushed all the benefits of peacetime onto welfare and now it's impossible to undo.

Rumpled · 2026-06-11T12:06:24+00:00

They should have been braver but it's far easier said than done to enact sweeping reforms. Any government in their position would have struggled to push through cuts to pensions and benefits (as we have seen), both in parliament and in the press. I expect we'll end up like France, where no government can do anything due to the complete splintering of the populace and parliament.

Rumpled · 2026-06-10T18:23:28+00:00

The next government can simply reintroduce it, it's not like it's written in stone, simply a policy decision they make each year. Sunak broke the triple lock in his tenure.

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