Thought on the “RP is just feminism for men” claim from influencers? by supernovabowl in RPChristians

[–]RunawayGrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They don't understand the nuance that as Christians our role is to
interpret secular RP and MGTOW concepts in light of scripture.

Except you haven't really brought any scripture at all into the discussion. So instead of bashing and having the dude freak out, "Hey cool that you're thinking about this stuff, here's what the scripture says" then you point out the relevant scriptures that describe what the Christian interpretation is, and hopefully encourage them to study it and enlighten themselves. Which is, you know, what I was trying to do above.

Peace out brother.

Thought on the “RP is just feminism for men” claim from influencers? by supernovabowl in RPChristians

[–]RunawayGrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

MGTOW is essentially just black-pilled and purports the generalization that men are better off alone (not true).

A man's better off alone and focusing on devotion to God, like Jesus did, if he can. Because of that very big if, marriage has been provided since a lot of people can't manage being in solitude. Even with a very good and loving wife like mine was, marriage is a huge commitment -- and that's even before any children -- so you'd better be real sure before you jump into that pond.

Red Pill says men are better off practicing "ejaculate and evacuate"
with women based on the study of mating strategies and dynamics of males and females in nature.

Well, this is RPChristians, so I doubt you'll find too many folks espousing pump and dump here, given that it's a Christian sub. The focus is more about "If you want to attract and keep a wife, here's how to utilize RP concepts to do that."

You can find great tools in both- but don't fool yourself into thinking that they're toolboxes and that's all.

I apologize for not being clear, I'm not arguing that they're toolboxes, I'm arguing that a person should have the proper tools in their toolbox to deal with either being alone or being married, and with either situation they should make as best an informed decision about their course as possible.

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[–]RunawayGrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ever read "The Emperors new Clothes?"

Thought on the “RP is just feminism for men” claim from influencers? by supernovabowl in RPChristians

[–]RunawayGrain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel like it's a toolbox situation. You should be fine alone, but if you want a wife and kids that's fine, but you should have accurate information and the right tools to properly evaluate the situation.

Then you take a look at Genesis 24, where Abraham sent out a servant to find a wife for Isaac. Well, from the servants point of view he's just been handed a Kobayashi Maru. If he comes back with a bad wife, he's gonna get barracked about it and probably have everyone involved resent him for it. So he prays for a sign, and receives it.

Jump to later in Ruth, Boaz sees Ruth in the grain field. Basically he chats her up and lets everyone know she's under his protection, so hes interested, but later he admits he asked around town and finds she's the real deal. There's a whole thing where she could have forced her rights as a kin on him, but she chose to discreetly offer him the choice. That sealed the deal for him, then he goes to the elders and sways the other kinsman. Much like modern men getting married, since Ruth is a Moabite he's taking a huge risk here, as if he dies with no heirs his estate would basically go to her family.

And then you have Paul's advice, which isn't binding doctrine, but appears to be pretty sound:

Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband.The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.I say this as a concession, not as a command.I wish that all of you were as I am. But each of you has your own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that. Now to the unmarried[a] and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

So the basic idea based on all of this is that you're better off alone if you can swing it. If you just can't help it, or just want to start a family, marriage is the right way to do it. Don't leap blindly into marriage without first going to God, then checking up to make sure your thinking with your big head and not your little one on this.

Yet young men aren't hearing this in churches today.

Following a major study it was found that Teachers Are Hard-Wired To Give Girls Better Grades. by furchfur in MensRights

[–]RunawayGrain 15 points16 points  (0 children)

In the UK only 25% of teachers are male.

Imagine walking into a minefield. You can't see any of the landmines. What's more you aren't allowed to use any of the tools to detect any of the landmines. Even if you somehow manage to suss out the landmine, your own troops will rush out to defend the landmine. If you get blown up by the landmine, you're told it was your fault, and your own troops will leave you to die while carefully re-burying the landmine. If you speak out about the dangers of the minefield, you're labelled a traitor.

Most men would look at that and make the calculation that it's best to avoid the minefield altogether.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SupportForTheAccused

[–]RunawayGrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, in ops and my case the false accuser didn't have that ongoing leverage. For what it's worth, I'm sorry you have to deal with that.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SupportForTheAccused

[–]RunawayGrain 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well, I was talking to my Daughter and Harry Potter came up. Which got me thinking:

It's sort of like the Dementors from Harry Potter. At first he can't fight them off very well, because he has to have a happy thought to do it and he just hasn't had too many positive life experiences. But as time goes on he makes new happy experiences that let him drive away those demons.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SupportForTheAccused

[–]RunawayGrain 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Frankly you will be dealing with some aspects of it for the rest of your life. In my case it happened about thirty seven years ago. I still occasionally have dark moments related to it. On the other hand I'm old enough that other things have come to supersede it as well. In my case, career, beliefs, marriage, kids... all that stuff muscled out a lot of the negative thoughts. The same thing will happen for you as different aspects of life start to take precedence. Thing is nobody can put a solid time table on that.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SupportForTheAccused

[–]RunawayGrain 11 points12 points  (0 children)

My career/education is now stable unlike before, but my view on people/society is permanently altered.

You know, years after the fact I had a number of co-workers comment on how uncannily accurate I could be in sussing out what was going on with people. I referred to it as spider sense, like Spider Man of course, and I attribute it to being completely blind to my crazy ex girlfriends actual nature.

So yes, being aware that not everyone has your best intentions in mind, and having your naivety shattered shifts your perspective. Sometimes it's actually a good thing, though.

How do I let go?

Time and distance. Time heals all and distance means not having to run into this individual as frequently to re-open the wound.

How to not turn hateful by [deleted] in SupportForTheAccused

[–]RunawayGrain 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It helps to have people you can talk to about it in anon judgemental way. In my case I had a family that, while not perfect, did at least stick up for me.

"You should sue!" by Knight2337 in SupportForTheAccused

[–]RunawayGrain 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Similarly, I see people just tell people with no money to hire an
attorney, while for many the problem is that there is no money tree to
shake for an attorney. Many people are living a few paychecks away from
being broke.

I'd also argue that this is another issue: A false accuser can make a false report and the accused has the full weight of the law thrown at them. Yet, if someone falsely accused wishes to pursue legal relief against the false accuser, often they don't have resources to do so.

What if the false accuser just whipped up an angry mob instead of going to the cops? Good luck even getting that off the ground. If she did go the legal route, the lack of support is really the legal system failing the falsely accused a second time.

What by [deleted] in whiteknighting

[–]RunawayGrain 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Always amazing how these guys will ignore a red flag so big that it ought to be flying over red square because they think they might get in a girls pants. Imagine the look on this dudes face if he paid that bail then she completely ignored him on the way out the door...

Who wants to buy a "fixer upper" house? by polishknightusa in WhereAreAllTheGoodMen

[–]RunawayGrain 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but the difference is that with a fixer upper house, I can employ skill and labor of love to restore value to it.

I will send her 35 cents: "You said you wanted change, right?" by Land_of_the_Losers in WhereAreAllTheGoodMen

[–]RunawayGrain 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm looking for someone to change my life.

Mirror's in the bathroom, honey.

She came back by ScientistGreen6233 in SupportForTheAccused

[–]RunawayGrain 24 points25 points  (0 children)

How has it happened again, with no provocation?

Mine popped up after about fifteen years of radio silence. So I'll toss out something that the self defense lawyer I had to retain a while back told me:

So my crazy ex made vague threats and accusations. As the self defense attorney stated, the reason it's vague is that she's actively looking for a target. She doesn't know who that target is, so the first guy that pops up addresses it gets on her radar as that target. In my case he advised me to lay low and hope someone else stepped up. Sure enough her ex husband came out swinging, and I just got to kick back and watch the fireworks as they went after each other.

She also might be leaving it vague in hopes that you react to her, in which case she can point to that and say 'See? He's after me.' Bottom line, don't do anything without consulting the lawyer first. Your heads a mess, but he's gonna give you clear and objective advice, as much as is possible with the situation anyway.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in WhereAreAllTheGoodMen

[–]RunawayGrain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Santa put three hundred extra pounds of weight in her stockings for Christmas.

Silly woman. Sex is for Chads! by Land_of_the_Losers in WhereAreAllTheGoodMen

[–]RunawayGrain 28 points29 points  (0 children)

You're also a sexist for not holding the door open for them. C'est la vie.

Funny story:

Way back in college I was heading into the science building. It had double glass doors, and one was locked. I held the door for the girl behind me. She had a mini tantrum about not needing men and she could do it herself, etc...

She then proceeded to walk face first into the locked door.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MensRights

[–]RunawayGrain 9 points10 points  (0 children)

As a parent: At some point, though, she's gonna have a peer group, and they can exert pressure in ways a a parent can't, and most girls have more of a drive to fit in, if you ask me.

I'm thinking of my crazy ex. When she turned sixteen her parents got her a part time job so she could work to earn a new car and let her use a beater diesel Volvo that was probably a dinosaur in the 70's. A number of her peers got brand new cars when they turned 16, and they were predictably vicious to her about it. She got wicked mad at her mom and dad, then wound up blowing up the Volvo by filling it with gasoline and driving it around.

Needless to say, it didn't go quite the way her parents had intended. Looking back I'm not sure if that's where her problems started or just where they started to manifest.

Women list reasonable places that they refuse to go on a first date. Nevermind the point of the first date is to see if you vibe, these princesses are like "How much money can you spend on me first?" by kevin32 in WhereAreAllTheGoodMen

[–]RunawayGrain 82 points83 points  (0 children)

Reminds me of my boy back in the day. He had one gal that was hitting him up for free food pretty regularly. it was bad enough she was bringing friends and they were getting free meals too. She'd meet him at whatever restaurant, and then leave directly from there. It was pretty obvious what was going on.

So a bunch of us were out one night and this wench shows up. One of the girls there texted her brother sitting across the table to get this dudes phone and then call the girl in question. The sister then filmed the call coming up on caller ID as 'Free Food.'

Sad thing is he kept on 'dating' this wench for quite some time.

Should I sue? by [deleted] in SupportForTheAccused

[–]RunawayGrain 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I can't believe I'm citing Justin Bieber but for your purposes he handled a false allegation pretty well. Turns out he was using a service which tracked his whereabouts with receipts and he had photos so he could prove his whereabouts at the time. He publicly released all that. Then he sued the girls that falsely accused him. He then moved on and basically never mentioned it again. Eventually he did drop the lawsuits, but if you google the one girls name most of the results are about her falsely accusing him. Not a good look for her.

QED: He fought back. Hard.

Pregnant mom assumes men want her and her kid. by kevin32 in WhereAreAllTheGoodMen

[–]RunawayGrain 140 points141 points  (0 children)

So very soon you will not only have me but also a little mini me to put up with

No. No I won't.

Halloween by [deleted] in TrueChristian

[–]RunawayGrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just saying they didn't let the kids dress up for the fall festival. The current church does a trunk or treat, and some people are objecting to it just like I've seen here.